New 2019 type 56 imports at Classic tracking thread

[wpasks]

Ok, that clears a lot up from most of what I read & makes more sense-thanks.  It has a side mount for the butt sling instead of on the bottom also.  That threw me a little too cause I read that it had been moved to the bottom of the stock by then.  Nice to know it's a low production year too. 
Another odd thing is there are two what look like almost tap holes on the receiver dust cover.  Two perfect little circles (not really indented into the metal just an outline) inline with the top that have some scratches near them and fading in the blueing in the pattern of a rectangle across the cover.  Any thoughts what that'd be from?  The blueing on the rest of the gun is in the 90%+ which is strange I thought.

[Boris Badinov]

Ok, that clears a lot up from most of what I read & makes more sense-thanks.  It has a side mount for the butt sling instead of on the bottom also.  That threw me a little too cause I read that it had been moved to the bottom of the stock by then.  Nice to know it's a low production year too. 
Another odd thing is there are two what look like almost tap holes on the receiver dust cover.  Two perfect little circles (not really indented into the metal just an outline) inline with the top that have some scratches near them and fading in the blueing in the pattern of a rectangle across the cover.  Any thoughts what that'd be from?  The blueing on the rest of the gun is in the 90%+ which is strange I thought.

Post photos, lots of them. In focus, up close and HD-- if you can.

Others won't be able to tell you very much definitively without the photos.

[wpasks]

OK - I put 3 pics up, the last one being the receiver cover with the 2 circles barely visible.  Sorry if the photos aren't the best, I'm not a photographer!  The rectangle I mentioned goes over the top of the receiver as well but I don't think it's visible at all in the shot nor is the light scratching.

[running-man]

Are the circles actual indentations into the metal?  It could be anything; dinging against a protruding pin on another gun, a soldier intentionally indenting a tool into the cover, maybe even water spots if they are not that deep.

The Chinese didn't mark the tops of their receiver covers, so I'd suspect this is something that occurred long after it left China.

You got quite a nice carbine.  This Classic Arms batch is truly hit or miss, you hit a home run with that original stock. 

[wpasks]

The sun's actually shining here, quite rare.  I took a few more photos of the cover in natural light so the fading in the blueing is visible also.  The circles are barely etched into the metal, nothing incidental though like banging around.  They're there from something.  My thought was some type of scout mount or such attached, but I doubted myself on that.  Would that have been put on one?
I was disappointed about the stock actually, thinking it was beat to hell compared to my other SKS's stocks.  Happy it was matching numbers and original but it's reassuring to know you think it's a homer, I know nothing about the Chinese SKS comparatively.  I picked this one up on impulse.

[Boris Badinov]

Maybe the circles are from some kind of set screws? Any other similar marks on the left and right side of the reciever?

Do the circles show through on the undderside of the cover?



Also, you got one of the good ones from the Classic lottery. Definitely a winning ticket.

All matching, right?

And....1970 : very hard to come by

[wpasks]

That's what I was thinking, set screws from some sort of mount or something else attached.  It'd have to be a poor mount because those are the only marks, the blueing fading stops at the receiver cover also.  They don't show through to the bottom of the cover.
It is all matching numbers, including the receiver cover.  Is it rare for the sling mount to be on the side not the bottom of the stock for a '70 too?

[running-man]

Soviet Sinos through mid year 3 series had bottom swivels. 
Late year 3 through mid year 10 had side swivels (this includes all letter series guns)
Late year 10 through year 14 guns had bottom swivels again.
Year 15 (and possibly year 16, no data on these) were side swivel again.
Year 24-26 had bottom swivels again.

Why they changed this feature back and forth so often is anyone's guess, but they did it. 

[Loose}{Cannon]

From what I have seen....   year 15 guns can have anything.

Stamped/milled TG
One/two piece gastube

etc etc......

They were literally using up all remaining parts from all previous years.  Mine appears to be an all original non refurbished specimen in original box, and it has a milled TG, and I think a one piece gastube. 

[Loose}{Cannon]

[Boris Badinov]

Hot dang.

Did you pay extra for the milled trigger?

Also, did it come with a flux capacitor? (you know, for time travel to 1957)

[carls sks]

  hand select paid off for that one.

[running-man]

From what I have seen....   year 15 guns can have anything.

Stamped/milled TG
One/two piece gastube

etc etc......

They were literally using up all remaining parts from all previous years.  Mine appears to be an all original non refurbished specimen in original box, and it has a milled TG, and I think a one piece gastube.

I've only got a handful of year 15's in the database and they all have side swivel stocks. All these new imports have side swivels.  Have you seen one with an original stock with a bottom swivel on it? 

[wpasks]

Wow, that looks like it wasn't even issued into service, where'd it come from? 
Got mine tuned in today at the range.  I had it out last week but forgot the sight adjuster tool.  Whoever had it set up before me must have been shooting country miles, 18 inches or so high at 100 yards.  I got it down to level at 100 yd. and was ringing the gong at 250 yd. the majority of time.  It was grouping with open sights almost as good as my Yugo that I scoped.  Happy enough.
Thanks all for the info.

[Loose}{Cannon]

From what I have seen....   year 15 guns can have anything.

Stamped/milled TG
One/two piece gastube

etc etc......

They were literally using up all remaining parts from all previous years.  Mine appears to be an all original non refurbished specimen in original box, and it has a milled TG, and I think a one piece gastube.

I've only got a handful of year 15's in the database and they all have side swivel stocks. All these new imports have side swivels.  Have you seen one with an original stock with a bottom swivel on it? 

I haven't payed much attention to the swivels to be honest.   

[Loose}{Cannon]

Guys..   I bought this rifle a few years ago on gunbroker for something like $475   

[running-man]

It's a China Sports, Pre '94 import.  Beautiful gun, I think you bought it shortly after we realized how few year 15 guns there were...

I think they are all side swivels on the wood.  Other parts are all over the map, even the gas blocks are varied if I remember correctly.  I suspect the stocks were all fabricated from the same lot as I've never seen a side bottom swivel on one.  The year 16 example we have has a replacement stock unfortunately, so no help there. 

[wpasks]

I was going over the site a little, where/what thread would you like pics or data on my Albanian posted?

[running-man]

This thread is for the Classic type 56 imports.  If that's the one you're talking about, you can post additional photos here, or if you want, start a new thread here in the Military Chinese section.  If it's a true Albanian 651, start a thread in the Albanian section. 

[wpasks]

I realize that, it's a true '78 Albanian.  I was asking where you guys were collecting info. for your files, it's not clear where that was at.  Didn't mean to offend you.