I can't get the G$!@D!$@# trigger group back on!!

OldManBryson · February 11, 2019, 08:10:08 PM

Everything went fine until it was time to put the trigger group on.
I made sure it was on safe per the stickie on field stripping.
What's the f@#$*^g trick?
I'm about ready to go get a snootfull & I don't drink!
Can someone please help?

Justin Hell · February 11, 2019, 08:21:30 PM

Sometimes you have to kind of push the follower into it's hole in the receiver and push down and forward simultaneously to get it to slide forward into place....

Make sure your stock is fully seated too...if it slips out a little when fussing with it it can cause a hangup getting it in there.

Also, make sure your magazine is fully seated...sometimes the lip can miss it's lug and go in awkwardly, yet seem correct...

I don't know if it's even possible to put a trigger in with the bolt open, but also make sure it is closed.

Justin Hell · February 11, 2019, 08:24:14 PM

One more thing...the hammer should be pulled back.

OldManBryson · February 11, 2019, 08:40:18 PM

Quote from: Justin Hell on February 11, 2019, 08:24:14 PM
One more thing...the hammer should be pulled back.

Hammer on a SKS? Where, pray tell?

Justin Hell · February 11, 2019, 08:46:36 PM

The hammer on the trigger group...if it's forward, when trying to install it...it will want to pull back and fight against you.

Justin Hell · February 11, 2019, 08:56:04 PM

It is generally a little tough to get them to pop in, it shouldn't be significantly difficult, but you are fighting the spring in the stock, and the retention spring/post thingy on the receiver....all while tucking the pin under and pushing forward. Some are a little tougher than others....did it give you much grief removing it?

OldManBryson · February 11, 2019, 09:09:45 PM

Quote from: Justin Hell on February 11, 2019, 08:56:04 PM
It is generally a little tough to get them to pop in, it shouldn't be significantly difficult, but you are fighting the spring in the stock, and the retention spring/post thingy on the receiver....all while tucking the pin under and pushing forward. Some are a little tougher than others....did it give you much grief removing it?

Went smooth as silk.
I'm so aggravated now I'm ready to sell it and get something easier to disassemble/reassemble.
Every time I push down and forward, the receiver comes up off the stock.
I'm running out of nerve pills.
I bet this thing has never been disassembled/reassembled.

Greasemonkey · February 11, 2019, 09:17:46 PM

Lay it on the floor with the receiver cover against the floor and stomp on the trigger guard...it can take it.. don't ask

Happy pills huh..... My close friend Jimmy takes'em

OldManBryson · February 11, 2019, 09:48:32 PM

Quote from: Greasemonkey on February 11, 2019, 09:17:46 PM

Happy pills huh..... My close friend Jimmy takes'em

I'm stockpiled on them too. It's good to be "crazy"

OldManBryson · February 11, 2019, 10:05:51 PM

Quote from: Greasemonkey on February 11, 2019, 09:17:46 PM
Lay it on the floor with the receiver cover against the floor and stomp on the trigger guard...it can take it.. don't ask

Happy pills huh..... My close friend Jimmy takes'em

After two tries, my size 15 worked. The threaded cleaning rod won't work with the supplied brush tho. Anyone know where I can get a cleaning rod with a brush that fits it?
On a good note, everywhere on the gun that has a serial number matches. My lone bright spot of the evening.

Bob_The_Student · February 12, 2019, 07:26:20 AM

.... I been there with a couple TG's. And I'm such a patient person

! This gun sounds like nothing but trouble when you sell this trouble maker let me know. I will discipline it

!

Glad you got it back together. As far as the cleaning rod I don't actually use cleaning rods on the guns. I use Tipton (Amazon) rods to protect bore. Good luck!

Justin Hell · February 12, 2019, 10:21:16 AM

The cleaning rods and accessories should be threaded using the Whitworth standard....which has been dead for longer than many of us have been alive. Later manufactured ones likely are not threaded properly...there was a guy selling new rods, with a couple of new attachments with the modern standards up until recently. Did you pick up your rod on eBay?

Glad you were able to get her back together without hitting the bottle. Sometimes, especially if they are in like new condition...they can be a little tight...

Matchka · February 12, 2019, 12:56:34 PM

GM has it down - several of mine require a hefty whack. My home-made 'assist' is a wooden mallet with a stapled on washcloth. BLAM!

Boris Badinov · February 12, 2019, 01:34:05 PM

If you set the rifle on a firm hardwood bench or table you can do a modified version of GMs suggestion by doing a kind of two handed, CPR-style, chest compression with your full weight on the trigger guard. Just make sure the safety is engaged.

Good luck.

Let us know how it turns out.

Greasemonkey · February 12, 2019, 01:37:55 PM

Quote from: Boris Badinov on February 12, 2019, 01:34:05 PM
If you set the rifle on a firm hardwood bench or table you can do a modified version of GMs suggestion by doing a kind of two handed, CPR-style, chest compression with your full weight on the trigger guard. Just make sure the safety is engaged.

Good luck.

Let us know how it turns out.

Where is the fun in that?

OldManBryson · February 12, 2019, 02:18:06 PM

Quote from: Greasemonkey on February 12, 2019, 01:37:55 PM
Quote from: Boris Badinov on February 12, 2019, 01:34:05 PM
If you set the rifle on a firm hardwood bench or table you can do a modified version of GMs suggestion by doing a kind of two handed, CPR-style, chest compression with your full weight on the trigger guard. Just make sure the safety is engaged.

Good luck.

Let us know how it turns out.

Where is the fun in that?

I have to admit, I did enjoy stoping the $hit out of it after a while!

Quote from: Justin Hell on February 12, 2019, 10:21:16 AM
The cleaning rods and accessories should be threaded using the Whitworth standard....which has been dead for longer than many of us have been alive. Later manufactured ones likely are not threaded properly...there was a guy selling new rods, with a couple of new attachments with the modern standards up until recently. Did you pick up your rod on eBay?

Glad you were able to get her back together without hitting the bottle. Sometimes, especially if they are in like new condition...they can be a little tight...

No, mine came with the gun. I do have a bore snake, but I don't know if it'll fit into the butstock or not.

Boris Badinov · February 12, 2019, 02:49:33 PM

Who needs a cleaning rod? Just get a long shoelace or length of paracord and tie some 7.62 diameter knots in it.

Voilá, DIY bore snake that fits comfortable in the butt stock!

newchi · February 12, 2019, 09:26:16 PM

I had this same problem recently, i think in my case the magazine wasnt quite all the way in place.
But i feel your pain, it took about half an hour before i got it

OldManBryson · February 12, 2019, 09:37:37 PM

Quote from: newchi on February 12, 2019, 09:26:16 PM

I had this same problem recently, i think in my case the magazine wasnt quite all the way in place.
But i feel your pain, it took about half an hour before i got it

Did you have to stop & take drugs?

Larry D. · February 13, 2019, 11:24:36 AM

I seem to recall needing a rubber mallet once or twice.

As far as cleaning kits, The East German AK47 kit is a nice kit and a pretty cool commie accessory. They have several tools that can make cleaning easier. Those clever Germans.......
There's a guy on an AK board that always seems to have them for a decent price.

I won't post any links here without permission, but if anyone is interested, PM me.

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I can't get the G$!@D!$@# trigger group back on!!