Russian Marking/Stigma Thread

[Loose}{Cannon]

Isn't that a foreign demilled gun? 

[Ol Relic]

The commercial markings look to be intended for the Russian market (or are the ones coming into Canada now done in Cyrillic letters?)

[Bunker]

Have any of you seen this brand on a SKS? 

That's Balakleya (Ukraine).  Very common refurb mark.

I was referring to the Tula hallmark and not the repair facility.   

[Bunker]

Isn't that a foreign demilled gun?

Yes...Ukraine.  I was just curious about the hallmark, specifically the two-legged feathering and right-sided arrow head within the star.     

[Bunker]

The commercial markings look to be intended for the Russian market (or are the ones coming into Canada now done in Cyrillic letters?)

Supposedly this one was used by a Kremlin guard regiment.  Unfortunately that's the only pic I have.

[Loose}{Cannon]

GM sent me this a while ago.. 

Russian shot gun, 366tkm some oddball.caliber.. Gun model VPO-208.   

[Bunker]

I'm at a loss for what remorgana (Реморгана) actually means.  Any idea?

Sorry RM....I completely missed your question until I seen Ol Relic's reply.  Context is everything and the entire sentence/paragraph is very important.  Google translate is useless with a lot of Russian translations.

Реморгана as a standalone word (not in any sentence or context) means "repair facility".  реморганов (standalone) means "the repair facilities".  Now throw another word like войсковых реморганов and now that means "the troop (or the military) repair facilities".  When put in a complete sentence the meaning can drastically change, as well as the complete sentence structure.  The word is also used frequently in the actual Russian repair COC/structure.

Throw those in Google translate and you get "remorgana", "remorganov", and "military remorganov" respectfully.  All useless translations.

[CARBINE]

Another liski with a refurb date
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=537719469

[CARBINE]

Does it look like the same stamp on the stock or is it just me?

[Loose}{Cannon]

Kinda looks that way dont it....

[running-man]

Here's a 7th GRAU @ Riga stamp on a receiver cover I have seen on an SKS:




Pretty standard marking there.

I had read on one of the various .ru websites, that Chumak & co. consider squares and rectangles to be equal to each other as far as identifying the various refurb facilities.  For example, 1st GRAU @ Balakleya is both a square or a rectangle with a slash in it.

If that's the case, than this mark I just found yesterday, would also be 7th Grau @ Riga (in my opinion). 

[Loose}{Cannon]

Nice

[Dannyboy53]

I agree re: the mark in the last photo you posted running-man, it makes sense. I'm wondering why my Russian cover has no stamp to indicate refurb when the carbine obviously has been reworked at least once. It has the Nizhyn stamp as LC pointed out but it also has an obvious triangle immediately in front of the Nizhyn stamp which I believe MIGHT be the Liski stamp. I don't know what else it could be in that location.

[running-man]

Some covers on obvious refurbs simply don't have any mark, even though that was the most common place for them to get stamped on an SKS45.  I've also seen stamped on the barrel lug, receiver (both in front of the serial number and behind it), the stock (usually right side, but occasionally left side near the S/N, below the wrist, or even near the finger guards), the rear sight block, the front sight block and even the tip of the friggin cleaning rod.  They utilized each and every square inch of the SKS it seems.

The triangle could easily be a Liski mark Danny, but it could also be one of the other 5 or 6 known number-in-a-triangle stamps too.  The poor strike is very much indicative of a /1\ though. 

[Dannyboy53]

Running-man is it common to see a carbine go through refurb more than once?

[running-man]

Based on the small database I've got (~800 guns), I'd say the majority have a single refurbishment stamp on them. Many have no marks beyond a simple stock swap, some have multiple refurb stamps, and the fewest out of the bunch are as-issued specimens.

Here's an example of a double refurb gun with the stamps out of different GRAU/ABVs:

[Dannyboy53]

Thanks Sir.

[running-man]

Found a decent 5th Grau out of Alatyr the other day:




I'd have guessed that this was one of the more common SKS refurb stamps, but seeing as it's the first example I've recorded, maybe not.  It's certainly less common than the empty diamond.

[Loose}{Cannon]

Cool...   Pretty sure I have seen these before, just never thought to save them all like you are.  Good work man!

[running-man]

Yup, I hear that.  If anyone has a nicer closeup of that 5th GRAU stamp, by all means let me know.  The whole cover photo looks ok, but the closeup tile looks like fuzzy crap!