New Kid with His Bullpup

[LKermit]

Howdy, all!

This is my first visit to this site, and I must say it is very nice!  Travis done good!

I couldn't stop by without sharing a post or two of my wood work.  I have seen several names here that I recognize from another SKS board, so I know you guys are probably familiar with what I am posting.

I have produced some 40-50 of these babies, and here is one of the latest:



It is my first SKS, a shortened Yugo, running a Marcus G5 and a Pro Mag 30 rounder.  It will group 3-4 inches at 50 yards all day, standing or supported on its grip pod. 

I have retired from my job of twenty-one years, and am quietly and busily enjoying the good life in Central Oklahoma. 

KTF

[Loose}{Cannon]

Glad you finally showed up!    I never get tired of seeing your bullpup stocks.   

[running-man]

Awesome work LK!  I never get tired of seeing any of your babies!

Welcome to the boards, I hope you find it comfortable here!

[1mlt]

Beautiful LK. Now build one that takes our new G9 adapter. Yup, the one that uses AR 15 x39 mags. Maybe we can make a deal. I'll trade you a G9 and mag for a stock?

BTW, welcome home.

Marcus

[LKermit]

Beautiful LK. Now build one that takes our new G9 adapter. Yup, the one that uses AR 15 x39 mags. Maybe we can make a deal. I'll trade you a G9 and mag for a stock?

BTW, welcome home.

Marcus

Marcus, that is doable.  Do you like the one in the pic?  It has never been shot, only modeled. 

I have had several people mention your G9, and I have had to tell them that I am not sure about the fit in one of my stocks.  I could sure use one to play with. 

If you don't care for the black walnut/red mahogany look, I have one in natural, and another in cherry/red mahogany I can show you.

I'm game if you are?

KTF

[LKermit]

Awesome work LK!  I never get tired of seeing any of your babies!

Welcome to the boards, I hope you find it comfortable here!

It is not only comfortable, but comes with lots of friends!  Thanks for the welcome!

KTF

[1mlt]

Beautiful LK. Now build one that takes our new G9 adapter. Yup, the one that uses AR 15 x39 mags. Maybe we can make a deal. I'll trade you a G9 and mag for a stock?

BTW, welcome home.

Marcus

Marcus, that is doable.  Do you like the one in the pic?  It has never been shot, only modeled. 

I have had several people mention your G9, and I have had to tell them that I am not sure about the fit in one of my stocks.  I could sure use one to play with. 

If you don't care for the black walnut/red mahogany look, I have one in natural, and another in cherry/red mahogany I can show you.

I'm game if you are?

KTF

Send me your mailing address (via email, 1mlt@sbcglobal.net) and I'll send you one and a mag. Can I see a pic of the cherry/red mahogany one please? You may need to 'fatten' up the mag well area though, as the G9 'box' is wider and rectangular. Take a look at one on our site, TheSKSmagAdapter - Home Page

Marcus

[LKermit]

Marcus:

It DOES make a lot more sense to build you one from scratch that will fit the G9 (duh!).

If you would, tell me how wide the G9 is and I can cut a new rear section to fit, plus about 3/16" for the trigger bar, giving a leg up on construction of a new stock.

The cherry/red mahogany is still wet from the urethane, so give me a day or two to finish, and I'll post pics.

E-mail will go out this morning.

Thanks a bunch!

KTF

[Phosphorus32]

Welcome!  I admire fine woodworking and that stock looks like it would require a lot of detail work, most of which is hidden from view in all of the inletting. Nice stuff! 

[1mlt]

Marcus:

It DOES make a lot more sense to build you one from scratch that will fit the G9 (duh!).

If you would, tell me how wide the G9 is and I can cut a new rear section to fit, plus about 3/16" for the trigger bar, giving a leg up on construction of a new stock.

The cherry/red mahogany is still wet from the urethane, so give me a day or two to finish, and I'll post pics.

E-mail will go out this morning.

Thanks a bunch!

KTF

Kermit,

The adapter body is 3.5405L (not including the duckbill portion, measured at the bottom of the adapter) x 1.2125W x 2.4895H (measured from the rear of the adapter) in inches. The "skirt" that drops down around the mag will probably have to go also. We have developed a 'ambi' mag release and it needs to have clearance to attach to the left side of the adapter body at the base of the mag catch bar. I don't have one to send you as they are at the CNC guy. The mag catch bar is the 45degree bar on the left side that goes up, inside the stocks body. It doesn't need a 'slot' to operated as it only needs to move a few hundredths to release the mag. The standard mag release button is located on the lower right side and it needs to have clearance also. The 'cutout' for the adapter needs forward clearance so the adapter body can be shifted forward (maybe an 1/8") for 'tuning' the adapter to each rifle.

You may need to inlet the trigger bar though for clearance. The best 'look' is for the stock to 'wrap' the adapter so it looks like it is a factory part. Can you route the trigger bar on the right side so it is clear of the mag catch bar? And where is the safety located?

Does this make sense to you? Clear as a bell to me.

Marcus

[Loose}{Cannon]

He cuts a hole in the right side to access the original safety.

[LKermit]

Welcome!  I admire fine woodworking and that stock looks like it would require a lot of detail work, most of which is hidden from view in all of the inletting. Nice stuff! 

Thanks for the welcome and the nice compliment!  Actually, there is only a bit of grinding or inletting done, since it is the clam-shell style.  The fasteners are all on the other side.

KTF

[LKermit]

Marcus:

It DOES make a lot more sense to build you one from scratch that will fit the G9 (duh!).

If you would, tell me how wide the G9 is and I can cut a new rear section to fit, plus about 3/16" for the trigger bar, giving a leg up on construction of a new stock.

The cherry/red mahogany is still wet from the urethane, so give me a day or two to finish, and I'll post pics.

E-mail will go out this morning.

Thanks a bunch!

KTF

Kermit,

The adapter body is 3.5405L (not including the duckbill portion, measured at the bottom of the adapter) x 1.2125W x 2.4895H (measured from the rear of the adapter) in inches. The "skirt" that drops down around the mag will probably have to go also. We have developed a 'ambi' mag release and it needs to have clearance to attach to the left side of the adapter body at the base of the mag catch bar. I don't have one to send you as they are at the CNC guy. The mag catch bar is the 45degree bar on the left side that goes up, inside the stocks body. It doesn't need a 'slot' to operated as it only needs to move a few hundredths to release the mag. The standard mag release button is located on the lower right side and it needs to have clearance also. The 'cutout' for the adapter needs forward clearance so the adapter body can be shifted forward (maybe an 1/8") for 'tuning' the adapter to each rifle.

You may need to inlet the trigger bar though for clearance. The best 'look' is for the stock to 'wrap' the adapter so it looks like it is a factory part. Can you route the trigger bar on the right side so it is clear of the mag catch bar? And where is the safety located?

Does this make sense to you? Clear as a bell to me.

Marcus

Marcus:

The with of the unit is the critical measurement I needed.  I normally run the trigger bar on the left, but it is no problem making a mirror image stock to accommodate that.  Travis is right about the safety hole.  It is at the back, and on the right side.  If the plunging area around the magazine needs to be trimmed or eliminated, that really isn't a problem either.

If a bit of stand-off room is necessary for the mag catch, that really isn't a problem either.  I just make the butt section wider and then taper the front area more.

KTF

[Greatguns]

Well Hiya Kermit you old frog you. Have you used up all that Black Walnut I sent you yet?(I'm sure it's long gone)


So Marcus, how come you never offered to swap me one of my folding adapters for one of your G-9 mag adapters? j/k

[LKermit]

Hello, GG!

Yep, the walnut is literally spread over the continental US and parts of Canada.  That was some hard stuff!  But, it machined well and held an edge just like walnut should.

Marcus has provided me with a new set of headaches, is all........ :>)

KTF

[Greatguns]

Hello, GG!

Yep, the walnut is literally spread over the continental US and parts of Canada.  That was some hard stuff!  But, it machined well and held an edge just like walnut should.

Marcus has provided me with a new set of headaches, is all........ :>)

KTF

Not headaches, opportunities.

[1mlt]

KTF,

WHAT IF, I come up with a 'safety bar' that attaches to the original safety lever on the trigger assembly. It will have a simple round bar that will stick out of the hole you cut on the LEFT side of the stock. That way your right thumb controls the safety, similar to the AR platform. The new 'hole' will be in the shape of an 'arc' that follows the travel arc of the bar? Or something similar. I haven't played with that yet though. Maybe a simple cam that you rotate to lock it on/off?

Marcus

[Greatguns]

Why not just create a block safety for the forward trigger. Wouldn't that be simpler and take up less space?

[1mlt]

Why not just create a block safety for the forward trigger. Wouldn't that be simpler and take up less space?

Yes it would. SGW uses a slide type safety and it works fine. It is a ball w/spring and a flat bar that slides back/forth to lock/unlock the bull-pup trigger and that puts it where your trigger finger is. I would actually prefer that. Or something similar.

Marcus

[LKermit]

KTF,

WHAT IF, I come up with a 'safety bar' that attaches to the original safety lever on the trigger assembly. It will have a simple round bar that will stick out of the hole you cut on the LEFT side of the stock. That way your right thumb controls the safety, similar to the AR platform. The new 'hole' will be in the shape of an 'arc' that follows the travel arc of the bar? Or something similar. I haven't played with that yet though. Maybe a simple cam that you rotate to lock it on/off?

Marcus

Marcus:

That would be awesome!  The only thing is, you could not block the trigger or the area in front of it.  I really think it would be better for the right-hand shooters if the safety were on the right side, not the left.  Too much chance of hitting something when you are shouldering the rifle, unless it is pretty far forward. 

The same goes for single-point carrying.  The rifle will rest on its left side for the most part. Whattya think?

KTF