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Title: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Bacarnal on January 31, 2021, 06:57:03 PM
Got to Colorado about a month ago sans firearms (flew but didn't want to go through the PIA of flying with one or shipping).  Got here and the Girlfriend has some, but nothing I could call my own or relate to.  Found a Pawn/Gun store in Longmont that had (2) Mosin 91/30's. One was an Izhevsk  '42 with a sling and the other was a refurbed '38 Tula.  Both at $400.00.  I picked up the Tula and $450.00 (taxes, background, two day wait) later, I brought it back to the GF's.  The Izhevsk dissapeared just as quick.  Called around the LGS's and the cheapest, if they have them are at $450.00+.  Plus side, the Darling GF had two sealed cans of 7.62x54r, one a 300 round Bulgarian '53 dated and the other a 480 round can of Romanian '79 dated. Both LB and in great shape.  Her ex left them so I bought both of them from her for $250.00.  Yeah, yeah, pix are coming :)). Cheers!!!
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Bob_The_Student on January 31, 2021, 08:24:41 PM
Did you move?
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Cz315 on January 31, 2021, 09:26:52 PM
Can you believe it? Just a month ago someone was asking on this forum if $319 for a round receiver at Empire Arms was a deal or not. It's getting even more insane day by day...

I hope Mosins won't go the way of Tulip bulbs, but I frankly don't see them losing value long term even at this price level. Although I think there is probably a limit to how high they will go - there are just too many of those around.
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Bob_The_Student on February 01, 2021, 12:20:12 AM
Prices are getting worse by the day. Personally, I'm shutting it down unless a sweet deal floats on by.
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Phosphorus32 on February 01, 2021, 04:03:25 AM
Mosins will never be cheap again. I wouldn’t buy at that price but I don’t need one (because I have about 4 dozen of them).  If you needed one I could see getting it and at least you have 880 rounds of reasonably priced ammo for it.
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: carls sks on February 01, 2021, 09:17:34 AM
nothing cheap anymore (guns, ammo, mags, etc.), if you can find any. :o
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Bacarnal on February 01, 2021, 11:40:51 AM
Bob, no I didn't move.  The GF lives in the Denver area so we are spending time together at each others locales.

Jon, looks like you're sitting on a Mosin mine wink1.  While not having quite as many as you or GM, the ones I do have I picked up for reasonably low prices, so this one in the mix still averages low.  The Bulgarian was a short tin of 300, but at today's prices, what I paid the GF for both was still good.

Carl, agreed thumb1. 
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Phosphorus32 on February 01, 2021, 11:54:23 AM
Jon, looks like you're sitting on a Mosin mine wink1.  While not having quite as many as you or GM, the ones I do have I picked up for reasonably low prices, so this one in the mix still averages low.  The Bulgarian was a short tin of 300, but at today's prices, what I paid the GF for both was still good.

Yup, definitely a good price on the ammo at ~0.33 per round. If I was somewhere for an extended period of time without my own long gun, I'd probably do the same.  thumb1
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Greasemonkey on February 01, 2021, 12:49:16 PM
A while back I was digging through some junk and papers.... and happened across a J&G flyer from '07 or '08...   

I've talked about what was before... but I just found this photo..... and I cried. chuckles1  I also cried cause thats what I paid for my PSL then... rofl


(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/9djco1htdb17xb5/IMG_20171122_184301236_1.jpg?dl=0)
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Bob_The_Student on February 01, 2021, 04:03:00 PM
WHY, WHY, WHY did I stop going to gun shows 25 yrs ago. I can only imagine some of the stuff I would have now and for a 1/4 of the price.  banghead1 banghead1 banghead1
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: running-man on February 01, 2021, 05:15:28 PM
...but I don’t need one (because I have about 4 dozen of them).

The only way to avoid Mosin #2 #48 is to avoid Mosin #1...  chuckles1
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: pcke2000 on February 01, 2021, 11:50:55 PM
Can you believe it? Just a month ago someone was asking on this forum if $319 for a round receiver at Empire Arms was a deal or not. It's getting even more insane day by day...

I hope Mosins won't go the way of Tulip bulbs, but I frankly don't see them losing value long term even at this price level. Although I think there is probably a limit to how high they will go - there are just too many of those around.

That was me. When I called Empire Arms, they were all gone.
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: pcke2000 on February 01, 2021, 11:52:18 PM
If you guys think Mosin is the new investment opportunity, you may want to also take a look at SVT-40.
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Greasemonkey on February 02, 2021, 12:57:56 AM
If you guys think Mosin is the new investment opportunity, you may want to also take a look at SVT-40.

Same with a PSL.. the last 3 I saw sold locally were right around $2K.

Of course.. ammo is the new gold.
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Bob_The_Student on February 02, 2021, 03:24:12 PM
Is that a bad price GM?
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Greasemonkey on February 02, 2021, 07:18:47 PM
Is that a bad price GM?

Better interest than any account. Kinda like a Chinese NDM-86.. $6k to $8k sometimes more for one on average.
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Bacarnal on February 02, 2021, 07:44:19 PM
Found another at a gunshop in Wheatridge, Co.  A 1943 Izhevsk with a good bore, wartime solid stock heavily laquered.  Had it at $350.00 on consignment, asked for the best price and the owner dropped it to $325.00.  I anticipate picking it up tomorrow.  Pix as soon as I get her. Cheers, Bruce.
P.S.  Definitely wish I would have retained my PSL's and SVT-40.
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Greasemonkey on February 03, 2021, 03:07:59 PM
Let me just break you little investing hearts... 2 weeks ago, I walked out of my dinky auction house, I threw a max bid of 380 at the start of the auction on a really nice matching refurb Mosin M38 in a M44 stock.... and won.  :)
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Bacarnal on February 03, 2021, 04:50:29 PM
GM, Cool. What does this make, the hundred and first? rofl2
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Phosphorus32 on February 03, 2021, 10:48:26 PM
GM, Cool. What does this make, the hundred and first? rofl2

He's now in the Mosin Airborne Division  :o  rofl
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Cz315 on February 04, 2021, 12:43:35 PM
Pcke2000, if you are still looking this might end up to be a deal. Ends in few hours. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/890827746

Seller didn't put Mosin Nagant in the title and he is wondering why so few takers...

Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Greatguns on February 04, 2021, 01:17:12 PM
Man, such a shame, dude could be getting almost twice that much if he would have simply added 2 more words into the title. I can't decide whether to bid on it or contact the seller and tell him to extend his listing and add "Mosin Nagant" to the title and/or description.
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Cz315 on February 04, 2021, 01:19:27 PM
Man, such a shame, dude could be getting almost twice that much if he would have simply added 2 more words into the title. I can't decide whether to bid on it or contact the seller and tell him to extend his listing and add "Mosin Nagant" to the title and/or description.

I was actually thinking of bidding on it too, but then I have '26 Izhevsk already and could be using the $ on other toys...
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Cz315 on February 04, 2021, 03:30:31 PM
Ended up at 390. Not much of a deal, but not exactly a rip off for an ex-dragoon in what seems to be VG shape. Bayo+accessories there are worth at least 50, I'd say.
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Bacarnal on February 04, 2021, 06:44:07 PM
Here's the promised pictures of my two recent purchases.   First is the 1938 Tula.  Notice the spliced portion on the heel.  Since this seems to be a common thing on laminated SKS stocks, I'm thinking it was a way to conserve wood, such as what is seen on wartime Japanese stocks. Please forgive the picture adjustment.  Took em with my phone and it NEVER seems to come out right.


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Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Bacarnal on February 04, 2021, 06:53:35 PM
Now for the 1943r Izhevsk.  The stock is wartime and seems like one of the previous owners laquered the s&>/ out of it.  Still has most of the stamps, though.


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Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Cz315 on February 04, 2021, 07:01:14 PM
Very nice! thumb1 thumb1
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Bacarnal on February 04, 2021, 11:09:54 PM
Thanks, Cz.  Just wish I could get the pix to show up like I take em.  Believe me, I've tried every which way!!
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: pcke2000 on February 04, 2021, 11:34:37 PM
Pcke2000, if you are still looking this might end up to be a deal. Ends in few hours. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/890827746

Seller didn't put Mosin Nagant in the title and he is wondering why so few takers...

Thank you so much! Unfortunately I missed your post. It looks like a real nice example and final price was not that crazy.
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Phosphorus32 on February 05, 2021, 06:10:30 AM
I think the finish is probably original on the Izhevsk, if it has drips and runs then for sure it’s okay  :))

I agree, the spliced heel is to allow cutting of narrower stock blanks to reduce waste.
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Cz315 on February 05, 2021, 10:41:28 AM
I always liked the war time Mosins for their character, the rough workmanship reflects the conditions at the time. Kind of fascinating.
 
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Greasemonkey on February 05, 2021, 11:02:50 AM
I always liked the war time Mosins for their character, the rough workmanship reflects the conditions at the time. Kind of fascinating.
 

I like any Mosin........uhm........... cause RM doesn't, he's skeered.  :) thumb1
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Phosphorus32 on February 05, 2021, 12:11:24 PM
I always liked the war time Mosins for their character, the rough workmanship reflects the conditions at the time. Kind of fascinating.
 

I like any Mosin........uhm........... cause RM doesn't, he's skeered.  :) thumb1

Well, I think it's time to trot out the famous picture of RM examining his first Mosin, reportedly a barn find in Newfoundland, upon which he was first heard to utter his famous tagline: "The only way to avoid Mosin #2 is avoid Mosin #1, eh!"


(https://i.ibb.co/R3Q6qSn/Punt-Gun.jpg) (https://ibb.co/X7F5q4B)
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Bob_The_Student on February 05, 2021, 03:05:45 PM
Bruce, you have a really nice pair! :o  rofl rofl rofl The rifles gentleman, the rifles.
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Bacarnal on February 05, 2021, 10:50:18 PM
Bruce, you have a really nice pair! :o  rofl rofl rofl The rifles gentleman, the rifles.

Leave it to someone from the Buckeye State... chuckles1.
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: running-man on February 05, 2021, 11:37:05 PM
Well, I think it's time to trot out the famous picture of RM examining his first Mosin, reportedly a barn find in Newfoundland, upon which he was first heard to utter his famous tagline: "The only way to avoid Mosin #2 is avoid Mosin #1, eh!"

 rofl seei know you’re lying.  Newfies don’t say ‘Eh?’ like the mainlanders do. Oddly enough they say ‘Yes bye!’  dance2
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Phosphorus32 on February 06, 2021, 01:05:56 AM
Well, I think it's time to trot out the famous picture of RM examining his first Mosin, reportedly a barn find in Newfoundland, upon which he was first heard to utter his famous tagline: "The only way to avoid Mosin #2 is avoid Mosin #1, eh!"

 rofl seei know you’re lying.  Newfies don’t say ‘Eh?’ like the mainlanders do. Oddly enough they say ‘Yes bye!’  dance2

We’ll shoot, you got me  :-[ :)) I didn’t notice that when I was in Newfoundland. Loved it for the week I was there.
Title: Re: Forget GameStop!! Mosin's, The New Investment Opportunity.
Post by: Bacarnal on February 07, 2021, 05:42:25 PM
Additional pix of the 1943.  I swabbed out the barrel and there was no observed pitting, but the cut marks for the grooves is rough, probably due to wartime corner cutting and a worn button on the rifling machine. 


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