To sell, or not to sell...Update#2

Started by echo1, October 08, 2020, 12:17:51 PM

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echo1

Hi Fellas,

I HATE to sell my stuff.

That being said, I have some items that I could move,  SKSs, a bunch of them. Do you guys think selling 2 @ $1K (Kali $) or more, would/could float?
I say this because of the 5 annual sales per year restriction, and I have enough duplicates to make some interesting combos, including a Paratrooper or two. I'd pick out 10 rifles, and the buyer(s) could  choose any 2 assigned to each other, 5 choices think it'll fly? PAX
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"A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined" (George Washington),
But they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of Independence from any who might attempt to abuse them. echo1

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.~John Adams 1798

Greatguns

Quote from: echo1 on October 08, 2020, 12:17:51 PM
Hi Fellas,

I HATE to sell my stuff.

That being said, I have some items that I could move,  SKSs, a bunch of them. Do you guys think selling 2 @ 1$1K (Kali) would/could float?
I say this because of the 5 annual sales per year restriction, and I have enough duplicates to make some interesting combos, including a Paratrooper or two. I'd pick out 10 rifles, and the buyer(s) could  choose any 2 assigned to each other, 5 choices think it'll fly? PAX

How does the law read? If it does not specifically dictate 1 firearm equals 1 sale then yeah you could probably do that. Could and would they come after you anyway? Yeah, that is a possibility, you are in Commiefornistan after all.
My Avatar is a pic of the real "Ghost" SKS in honor of xxxsks(joe). It is a pic of a fully decked out SKS in Capco hunter's kit. This was mine, the only other pic I had ever seen of one was Joe's.

echo1

I believe the Kali DOJ reg says a sale can be more than I weapon to a single individual per transaction per calendar year, versus a 12 month cycle. PAX
  You need a crew  

"A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined" (George Washington),
But they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of Independence from any who might attempt to abuse them. echo1

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.~John Adams 1798

Greatguns

Quote from: echo1 on October 08, 2020, 01:16:23 PM
I believe the Kali DOJ reg says a sale can be more than I weapon to a single individual per transaction per calendar year, versus a 12 month cycle. PAX

Well, given it is October, you could do 5 sales now and 5 after the 1st of the year then. You also could sell 3-4 SKSs to one person if they were so inclined. Somebody had this discussion before, don't know what selling out of state does to the whole 5/year sales thing.
My Avatar is a pic of the real "Ghost" SKS in honor of xxxsks(joe). It is a pic of a fully decked out SKS in Capco hunter's kit. This was mine, the only other pic I had ever seen of one was Joe's.

echo1

Quote from: Greatguns on October 08, 2020, 01:23:01 PM
Quote from: echo1 on October 08, 2020, 01:16:23 PM
I believe the Kali DOJ reg says a sale can be more than I weapon to a single individual per transaction per calendar year, versus a 12 month cycle. PAX

Well, given it is October, you could do 5 sales now and 5 after the 1st of the year then. You also could sell 3-4 SKSs to one person if they were so inclined. Somebody had this discussion before, don't know what selling out of state does to the whole 5/year sales thing.

Good question. I had only considered local FTF sales, since there should be at least 5 guys nearby with ducats. PAX
  You need a crew  

"A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined" (George Washington),
But they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of Independence from any who might attempt to abuse them. echo1

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.~John Adams 1798

Boris Badinov

For California that's a good deal price wise-- even for a  well worn (but still sound) pair from the recent type56's from Albania.


running-man

If you have C&R SKSs, I'd certainly look at going out of state direct to a C&R holder.  Bypasses the inane CA x# per year requirements and allows you to direct ship to someone who legally can receive it.  Costs and headaches might be greatly reduced.  Even going to a a FFL01 out of state might be less cumbersome depending on what the specific CA statue/law/constitutional amendment actually says.  What do the guys on Calguns say?
      

Bob_The_Student

PAX, I'm still free in Ohio so I'd be interested.  dance2

JorgeSKS

California SB376 states 6 sales transactions totaling no more than 50 firearms per colander year, Jan 1. - Dec 31.

I'm not sure it would stand up in court. If you acquired the firearms legally and you are selling them through legal means. The state of California can not impede you in engaging in lawful commerce. 

What you got PAX, I'm interested...!

Matchka

Quote from: JorgeSKS on October 08, 2020, 09:37:18 PM
California SB376 states 6 sales transactions totaling no more than 50 firearms per colander year, Jan 1. - Dec 31.

I'm not sure it would stand up in court. If you acquired the firearms legally and you are selling them through legal means. The state of California can not impede you in engaging in lawful commerce. 
Jorge, Two (?) months ago, I asked about CA DOJ's transaction limit. Wrote them a couple of days later - so far crickets. SB376 might be the clue I need. - TKS!
Hit my six transactions (a couple were multiple SKSs) limit in August.  I'll be back in biznezz Jan '21.
Would you happen to know if the 6 transactions apply to in-state sales only? OR, could I list more than six on GB - if the SKS was being transferred/shipped out of state? ("No sales to CA")

echo1

Quote from: Matchka on November 04, 2020, 02:16:03 PM
Quote from: JorgeSKS on October 08, 2020, 09:37:18 PM
California SB376 states 6 sales transactions totaling no more than 50 firearms per colander year, Jan 1. - Dec 31.

I'm not sure it would stand up in court. If you acquired the firearms legally and you are selling them through legal means. The state of California can not impede you in engaging in lawful commerce. 
Jorge, Two (?) months ago, I asked about CA DOJ's transaction limit. Wrote them a couple of days later - so far crickets. SB376 might be the clue I need. - TKS!
Hit my six transactions (a couple were multiple SKSs) limit in August.  I'll be back in biznezz Jan '21.
Would you happen to know if the 6 transactions apply to in-state sales only? OR, could I list more than six on GB - if the SKS was being transferred/shipped out of state? ("No sales to CA")

Matchka ,

I've got bum scoop from several local FFLs but this is what I'm interpreting:
Not yet Kali DOJ verified but not more than 5 transaction of no more the 50 firearms WITH IN THE STATE in a calendar year. Out of state sale do not apply towards the STATE sales (except for taxation).
  You need a crew  

"A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined" (George Washington),
But they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of Independence from any who might attempt to abuse them. echo1

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.~John Adams 1798

Matchka

So, if I list/sell on GB, ship the SKS thru my CA LGS - to an out of state buyer, these  transactions don't't count against my 5 (or 6) P2P CA limit? I've got about 25 SKSs that I want to sell (keeping the top dozen).

echo1

Quote from: Matchka on November 05, 2020, 08:07:33 PM
So, if I list/sell on GB, ship the SKS thru my CA LGS - to an out of state buyer, these  transactions don't't count against my 5 (or 6) P2P CA limit? I've got about 25 SKSs that I want to sell (keeping the top dozen).

That's what I'm hearing but haven't confirmed by the Kali DOJ. PAX
  You need a crew  

"A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined" (George Washington),
But they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of Independence from any who might attempt to abuse them. echo1

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.~John Adams 1798

Matchka

Got confirmation from my LGS/FFL that CA DOJ does not count a sale, to an out-of-state (CA) buyer, as a f2f, personal sales transaction as long as the recipient provides an out-of-state destination FFL.

Greatguns

There ya go guys, Gunbroker her they come, LOL.
My Avatar is a pic of the real "Ghost" SKS in honor of xxxsks(joe). It is a pic of a fully decked out SKS in Capco hunter's kit. This was mine, the only other pic I had ever seen of one was Joe's.

echo1

#15
Update
Fellas, I've been having a heck of a time trying to decide what "pairs " of SKSs to sacrifice to the Kali hoardes, to make my DOJ transaction limit (5) compliance.

So I decide to cull out 10 rifles to make 5 pairs.
I hadn't handled any of the SKS herd for some while. I ended making all the minor adjustments, to the various works in progress. You know, "The it's good enough for now" projects:
2 Kavarri triggers
2 furniture swaps and matching 3 HGs
4 cleaning rods (2 butt kits)
2 slings
3 numbered bits swapped for scrubbed
2 bayos added, 1 of each
Some bluing.

Now they're inseparable. The only action that's a little suspect, a letter gun, has the wrong bayo & stock for the reciever and it's scrubbed. It looks good and would be easy Kali ducat$, but like GG forever tinkering, the Khyber pass boys have their good eye on that gun.

Kali gunners can keep their money. PAX
  You need a crew  

"A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined" (George Washington),
But they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of Independence from any who might attempt to abuse them. echo1

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.~John Adams 1798

Greatguns

Quote from: echo1 on December 19, 2020, 02:11:46 AM
Update
Fellas, I've been having a heck of a time trying to decide what "pairs " of SKSs to sacrifice to the Kali hoardes, to make my DOJ transaction limit (5) compliance.

So I decide to cull out 10 rifles to make 5 pairs.
I hadn't handled any of the SKS herd for some while. I ended making all the minor adjustments, to the various works in progress. You know, "The it's good enough for now" projects:
2 Kavarri triggers
2 furniture swaps and matching 3 HGs
4 cleaning rods (2 butt kits)
2 slings
3 numbered bits swapped for scrubbed
2 bayos added, 1 of each
Some bluing.

Now they're inseparable. The only action that's a little suspect, a letter gun, has the wrong bayo & stock for the reciever and it's scrubbed. It looks good and would be easy Kali ducat$, but like GG forever tinkering, the Khyber pass boys have their good eye on that gun.

Kali gunners can keep their money. PAX

Glad I was able to provide some inspiration. I'm finding it hard to part with my project guns of late as well. I have 2 guys offering various amounts of ammo in trade where I would make a good profit, but I keep hesitating on which, if any, to part with. rofl rofl

Merry Christmas PAX
My Avatar is a pic of the real "Ghost" SKS in honor of xxxsks(joe). It is a pic of a fully decked out SKS in Capco hunter's kit. This was mine, the only other pic I had ever seen of one was Joe's.

echo1

These are the rifles I ended up listing.


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All 3 SKSs are C&R eligible. The 2 in wood furniture are matching numbers except the stocks. The tacticool unit is in a Tapco T6 with Tapco gas tube, a Baraska red dot, and blued bolt carrier. Has Hogue finger grips and a long Yugo bayo. PAX
  You need a crew  

"A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined" (George Washington),
But they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of Independence from any who might attempt to abuse them. echo1

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.~John Adams 1798

Greatguns

Hate to tell you PAX, but the Tapco dressed SKS is not C&R unless you put it back to OEM configuration. Did you post these in Cali or on GB?
My Avatar is a pic of the real "Ghost" SKS in honor of xxxsks(joe). It is a pic of a fully decked out SKS in Capco hunter's kit. This was mine, the only other pic I had ever seen of one was Joe's.

echo1

Quote from: Greatguns on December 21, 2020, 10:07:26 PM
Hate to tell you PAX, but the Tapco dressed SKS is not C&R unless you put it back to OEM configuration. Did you post these in Cali or on GB?

In my posting on Calguns, I addressed it to 03 Kali COE holders. Those are the only FTF guys left in Kali. The rig in the T6 is from a "Cracked Stock Special" and I still have the cracked stock if needed for a transfer technicality. The serial dates it to '67 I believe. If a guys not an 03 with a COE, it won't matter as it'll have to go through an 01 FFL.

On a side note, I used that fugly Tapco gas tube & HG with the red dot on purpose, to save a good gas tube HG, & ferrule. Those baby's are gold these days, and I'd never have a use for the Tapco unit otherwise. But it is made very secure. PAX
  You need a crew  

"A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined" (George Washington),
But they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of Independence from any who might attempt to abuse them. echo1

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.~John Adams 1798