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Which looks best, and why ?

Started by Cupid, September 20, 2020, 04:42:14 PM

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Greatguns

I thought you said you sold your Yugo 2 hours after you shot it, what's up with that?
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Quote from: Greatguns on September 20, 2020, 04:57:02 PM
I thought you said you sold your Yugo 2 hours after you shot it, what's up with that?

I took the pic before I sold it.

Which looks the best and why ?
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carls sks

i prefer my sks's all original (just a personal preference).
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Quote from: carls sks on September 20, 2020, 05:14:41 PM
i prefer my sks's all original (just a personal preference).

Which looks best and why ?
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Larry D.

OK, I'll bite.

The Yugo for me.
I think if there's to be an optic, it needs to be somewhere along the receiver.

I never quite got the knack of the scout scope.
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Quote from: Larry D. on September 20, 2020, 05:23:36 PM
OK, I'll bite.

The Yugo for me.
I think if there's to be an optic, it needs to be somewhere along the receiver.

I never quite got the knack of the scout scope.

Why ?


It's not a scout scope
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Justin Hell

I would go with the Yugo, I kind of like the scout scope look, and I have both my T53 and an SKS using that type of scoping. I do have a red dot to swap out with my LER scope...but I haven't really tried it.

I also think it looks more at home with how it is mounted on the Yugo with all the grenade stuff up front anyway. More balanced appearing?
The regular Type 56 would look better to me without the red dot at all.

Larry D.

Quote from: Cupid on September 20, 2020, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: Larry D. on September 20, 2020, 05:23:36 PM
OK, I'll bite.

The Yugo for me.
I think if there's to be an optic, it needs to be somewhere along the receiver.

I never quite got the knack of the scout scope.

Why ?


It's not a scout scope

I could have said scout scope style mount, but I didn't feel like typing that much.
I would have thought it obvious to everyone that it's not a real, actual, honest to God scout scope, but there we are.
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Quote from: Justin Hell on September 20, 2020, 05:31:46 PM
I would go with the Yugo, I kind of like the scout scope look, and I have both my T53 and an SKS using that type of scoping. I do have a red dot to swap out with my LER scope...but I haven't really tried it.

I also think it looks more at home with how it is mounted on the Yugo with all the grenade stuff up front anyway. More balanced appearing?
The regular Type 56 would look better to me without the red dot at all.

Aesthetics then.
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Bubbazinetti

What difference does it make on how it looks?You're the one shooting it.Use what's best for you.Purists will never agree with you on asthetics.
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Quote from: Bubbazinetti on September 20, 2020, 05:46:01 PM
What difference does it make on how it looks?You're the one shooting it.Use what's best for you.Purists will never agree with you on asthetics.

I will agree with anyone who says an SKS looks better without a red dot. It's my opinion that they look terrible no matter where you stick them.

I'm just trying to understand the reasoning behind the widespread hate of the red dot behind the front sight despite the obvious advantages.
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Greatguns

Okay Mick, to be serious, cause I was just joking around with you.

The reason, traditionally, optics have always been back on the receiver, or mounted on a free floating Hand guard is to keep it away from barrel whip which can destroy said optics. The reason it works somewhat for you on the SKS platform is because the SKS barrel is set in a tension style mount as opposed to the free float that many/most long guns are set in. Tension mounted barrels display less barrel whip so therefore optics mounted forward like yours can survive for a time.
Therefore, based on that, I would never mount an optic of any kind forward like that on any long gun.

Secondary reason why is I think it just plain looks stupid.
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Quote from: Greatguns on September 20, 2020, 05:56:46 PM

Tension mounted barrels display less barrel whip so therefore optics mounted forward like yours can survive for a time.

How long is " a time " ?


Quote from: Greatguns on September 20, 2020, 05:56:46 PMSecondary reason why is I think it just plain looks stupid.

If it looks stupid but works it's not stupid  :)
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Quote from: Cupid on September 20, 2020, 05:53:22 PM
I will agree with anyone who says an SKS looks better without a red dot. It's my opinion that they look terrible no matter where you stick them.

I'm just trying to understand the reasoning behind the widespread hate of the red dot behind the front sight despite the obvious advantages.

Okay, following up on this post.
First; you by your own admission are saying that, as concerns aesthetics, that red dots look terrible on an SKS. Therefore we are all apparently agreed on that point.
Second; You, on your other post about this topic, stated that due to not having any magnification it didn't matter where the red dot was mounted. With that being the case then there is really no "obvious advantages" to it being mounted way up front at the FSB.
Causing the rifle to be more front heavy is not an advantage.
If you are nearsighted it may be too far away to see the dot clearly.
And, as mentioned, out on the barrel like that is harder on the optic and, even buying a cheap one, if you have to keep replacing it then it is biting into your wallet.
That makes being farsighted the only advantage I can think of.

All that makes mounting a red dot out at the end of the barrel very minutely advantageous, and that only for those who require that advantage. To whit, if it works for you then great, but don't be so arrogant to think that everyone else has to love it just because you do.
My Avatar is a pic of the real "Ghost" SKS in honor of xxxsks(joe). It is a pic of a fully decked out SKS in Capco hunter's kit. This was mine, the only other pic I had ever seen of one was Joe's.

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Quote from: Greatguns on September 20, 2020, 06:32:04 PM

Okay, following up on this post.
First; you by your own admission are saying that, as concerns aesthetics, that red dots look terrible on an SKS. Therefore we are all apparently agreed on that point.
Second; You, on your other post about this topic, stated that due to not having any magnification it didn't matter where the red dot was mounted. With that being the case then there is really no "obvious advantages" to it being mounted way up front at the FSB.

The obvious advantages are that nothing on the rifle is hindered in any way, the iron sights can still be used. + you have the option of using the red dot.


Quote from: Greatguns on September 20, 2020, 06:32:04 PMCausing the rifle to be more front heavy is not an advantage.

3.7 oz is unnoticeable.


Quote from: Greatguns on September 20, 2020, 06:32:04 PMIf you are nearsighted it may be too far away to see the dot clearly.

If you can not see the dot clearly you have the option of increasing the intensity.    That option in not a possibility with the iron sight which is even further away.


Quote from: Greatguns on September 20, 2020, 06:32:04 PMAnd, as mentioned, out on the barrel like that is harder on the optic and, even buying a cheap one, if you have to keep replacing it then it is biting into your wallet.
That makes being farsighted the only advantage I can think of.

That red dot is the cheapest available, it cost $27 including shipping,  over 1000 rounds later  and it's still working perfectly. When it eventually stops working ( as they all do )  I will just mount the spare one I bought when I found they were good value.


Quote from: Greatguns on September 20, 2020, 06:32:04 PMAll that makes mounting a red dot out at the end of the barrel very minutely advantageous, and that only for those who require that advantage. To whit, if it works for you then great, but don't be so arrogant to think that everyone else has to love it just because you do.

I'm hardly being arrogant, I'm being helpful to the uneducated. rofl 

I already know well that everyone else does not love it, but I have never met anyone else who has tried it so it's not really surprising. :)
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Quote from: Cupid on September 20, 2020, 05:15:53 PM
Quote from: carls sks on September 20, 2020, 05:14:41 PM
i prefer my sks's all original (just a personal preference).

Which looks best and why ? the Yugo because the red/dot just looks weird located there.
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Bob_The_Student

Just curious Cupid are you selling or did you design the mount or have any interest in that mount? I'm asking because since you joined you been really keen on talking about that setup. If so,  I don't care and it would make more sense otherwise I don't understand why you keep asking why people like or don't like it. Multiple people have stated their opinion on it so...

My personal thought is if you're happy with your setups that is the ONLY thing that should matter.

Cupid

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Quote from: Cupid on September 20, 2020, 05:15:53 PM
Quote from: carls sks on September 20, 2020, 05:14:41 PM
i prefer my sks's all original (just a personal preference).

Which looks best and why ? the Yugo because the red/dot just looks weird located there.

I guess unconventional does look weird. lol
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