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Earlyish 50

Started by Hotrod, June 16, 2020, 09:31:06 PM

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Hotrod

It's been seen around, but not on this forum. For your viewing pleasure/displeasure haha, here she is


















Bubbazinetti

When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns.

Shoot The Refurbs

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Beautiful example!!!
Could i be so bold as to ask what a piece like that set you back or are you the original purchaser from the importer?
Gorgeous rifle my friend, I'm jealous.
-STR

Hotrod

No problem. Pawn shop score of under 1k and over 500....right in the middle. I need to get some better full on pics up.

Shoot The Refurbs

Whenever you do post more i'd like to see the front end of that piece
I'd say you did pretty good  8)

Hotrod


Hotrod

Note: sale price isn't accurate

Boris Badinov

Cover does not appear to be original to the rifle, opening the possibility that the rifle is a 1949 d.o.m.

Nice catch either way.

Congrats

Boris Badinov

#8
OP, can you post a photo of the bayo cutout in the stock ferule? Interested to know if the ferule originally cut for a spike bayo.

Phosphorus32

Great buy! I'd grab any 90 degree gas block SKS-45. Does it have a spring-loaded firing pin?

carls sks

nice, looks in great shape. thanks for sharing.  thumb1
ARMY NAM VET, SO PROUD!

Bacarnal

Looks like another example of a hand engraved cover.  Very nice piece!!!

running-man

Great example!

First EO in the database too.  It fits right in however, as ЕБ, ЕВ, ЕМ, and СО all have '50 covers with 90° gas blocks.

That's a definite keeper, transitional '50s' are hard to come by in any condition and that is a honest a refurb as you'll find.   
      

Hotrod

I'll post some more pictures after work today. The bayo cutout/ferrule is set up for blade. Firing pin is spring loaded.

Bacarnal

Looks like it's got the revised bolt and carrier.

Boris Badinov

Quote from: Bacarnal on June 17, 2020, 01:09:12 PM
Looks like it's got the revised bolt and carrier.

Its the early bolt and carrier and spring loaded firing pin.

Justin Hell

This is the gun that convinced me that my EO 1821 was indeed an early 50. 

Mine is a hump gun that has a matching EO bolt, carrier, receiver, and gas piston, with nearly everything else donated by a Canadian early 50 Ey that was cannibalized there.

It now has Ey parts covering the bases, Stock, receiver cover, trigger group, gas tube (I also have the piston)....even the front sight block.  The only non matching part from the Ey was the magazine, (typical in Canada) it is a KO which is the correct type with the gapped spine.  The stock is hardwood, but xxxxed and force matched. The cover, unfettered other than the refurb stamp. The trigger group, also period correct, does show signs of scrubbing....but not rough scrubbing, as if to remove a serial....but as if to make a flatter spot to stamp perhaps?  It looks like that to me anyway....it's flat but not obviously hit by a belt sander.

I took off the non refurb marked, but partially scrubbed 49 cover I got from Russia and put on the matching Ey one....but kept the blued bayonet vs. switching to a 'normal' matte silver one, as this one doesn't retain it's stake marks. I lean towards the blued ones being the earliest blades, and think the painted black ones are where the idea of the blued ones being a refurb indicator came from. Just my opinion....but given the option to install either a chromed, blued, or matte...I like blued best anyway. :)   I use the chromed one to stab at my plecostomos when he starts trying to suck the slime off of my other fish.  chuckles1 After seeing the OP's gun...I did pick up a matte one, but that one looks just great on my 59 letter gun.

I also switched out the 49 cleaning kit for a 50 cleaning kit, and picked up a period correct sling for her.  All of which are pretty tall orders to find these days. I had to get them all from Russia.  I don't recommend that these days unless you are very patient. I am still awaiting a photograph ordered four months ago....stupid virus.

One thing I am curious about on the OP's gun is the magazine....I don't remember if this was resolved on the Gunboards post last year, but does it have the pin in the bottom of the magazine or not?  The earliest mags did not, and wondered if this one being an early 50 still retained that (lack of) feature.  Since my mag doesn't match anyway....if the pinless one is correct, I will continue my search.  Otherwise the only friggin thing keeping this gun from being complete is the receiver cover latch's pin....which fell out and disappeared somewhere during the only ten rounds fired through her since she came into my life.  Try finding THAT!   banghead1

It is pretty safe to say Ey is also in the early 50 block, despite not ever seeing the receiver.   RM, is there any KO info out there? since it is a non scrubbed mag, with the spine gap....I kinda assume earlyish 50 too?

Boris Badinov

On the OP carbine, the cover and magazine serial font are the same. But their font does not match the receiver.

This creates a possibility that the carbine is a 1949 d.o.m. with a replacement cover , no?

Justin Hell

Quote from: Boris Badinov on June 17, 2020, 07:03:26 PM
On the OP carbine, the cover and magazine serial font are the same. But their font does not match the receiver.

This creates a possibility that the carbine is a 1949 d.o.m. with a replacement cover , no?

Perhaps, especially if the magazine is indeed lacking the pin for the spring stud.   But, there are an awful lot of E prefix early 50s. As much as I hope mine is a 49, it is more likely an early 50....especially since that article was posted about Russia not having a blade for the SKS at the time of adoption, and that spikes likely made it until around February 1950...it makes me wonder how far into 1950 that the hand struck covers endured before they started stamping them.....I consider those as 'early' 50s....even though they might have carried on well into the year, and the 'late' covers for the multitude of  1950 latch types came further into the year, but who knows when?  The 49/50 transitionals seem to be the most fascinating of all the SKS flavors. More seems to be known of the 'grail' SKSs than these.

What is the word for headscratcher in Russian?   rofl

Hotrod

A few more pics. Mag has pin. Spine of mag has the gap.