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A Few Pics to Share: 081
« on: April 28, 2019, 11:37:27 PM »
As you scroll through, note the secondary numbers on the bolt carrier and (mismatched? "Concept" or "Design Control" number? Dunno) bolt, and the part/drawing number on the magazine, which is one I've not seen placed like this before. Also, check the trigger mechanism; doesn't it appear that this was repurposed from a C-series M59? I'm still leaning toward (the personal opinion that) the long barrels being intermediary between M59 and M59/66. Anyway, enjoy! And I'll post a few more in just a bit.


































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Re: A Few Pics to Share: 081
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2019, 12:19:56 AM »
Nice! Itís a bonus that it has an actual long barrel stock.  thumb1

Itís been refurbished, so making an assignment of when the long barrels were introduced on the basis of parts on this refurb doesnít have a sound basis.

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Re: A Few Pics to Share: 081
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2019, 01:10:25 AM »
I'd have to agree with Phos....   

BTW, I have #080.   bat1
      
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Re: A Few Pics to Share: 081
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2019, 09:00:04 AM »
thanks for sharing all those pics.  thumb1
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Re: A Few Pics to Share: 081
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2019, 05:13:56 PM »
Nice pickup, certainly not many of these floating around.  You got it at a solid price as well.  I had been following that auction, but the bidding got too rich for my tastes towards the end.

I'll have to break out my LB and see if it has as many other EP'd numbers on it, I don't remember it having that many, but it very well may.  Mine has a restamped and repurposed M59 stock with the longer bayo groove.  These long barrels certainly have lived interesting lives.  thumb1
      

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Re: A Few Pics to Share: 081
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2019, 05:42:50 PM »
That's one of the nicest Yugo SkS's I've seen let alone long Barrel.. Daaaamn !
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Re: A Few Pics to Share: 081
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2019, 10:17:46 PM »
Thanks for the comments, everyone. I hate to keep posting these at random, but that's the way life is at present: hard to guess what any day will bring, now.

I've reached out several times to various people in Serbia/former Yugoslavia regarding these rifles, but it may be that not enough time has passed for it to be appropriate for discussion, at least for now. Phos32 and LooseCannon, have you had any luck in overseas contacts regarding the long barreled rifles? Browsing through old posts/websites/discussions, I keep coming across the name of Branko Bogdonovic (spelling?), but I've not found anything posted by him recently. I'd just like to know what these rifles really represent, as I love the design and have been a fan of the SKS since viewing old news articles about Vietnam as a kid, and the prevalence of the SKS in arming our enemies. I know that I'm prone to conjecture, but as for now, I can't wrap my head around numbers 50456 and C44-140 (and at least a couple of others with serial production receivers) and why they may have been made with the longer barrels, if "long barrels" were precursors to M59 production. Conversely, if numbers 031 and 048 were refurbished (as evidenced by the TRZ stock marks), when was this done? As I understand it, 031 came from the remaining items at the arsenal at Zastava, and 048 may have been an earlier import that could represent rifles that had seen combat in Yugoslavia's civil conflict. Anyway, I'm always hoping to learn new information, and look forward to your thoughts. As an aside, I've got a sleeper (literally sleeping in the safe pending cosmoline removal) of an Albanian-used Type 56 that I hope to post this week, if all the stars align-interesting "trench art" on the stock, and named to at least one user!

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Re: A Few Pics to Share: 081
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2019, 07:05:15 AM »
The majority of Yugoslavian SKSs have been refurbished, at least once. They had a very active refurbishment program to keep their firearms in serviceable condition. I figure the few examples of the ultra rare C block long barrels resulted from use of a rare new old stock long barrel from the barrel bin to build an otherwise standard M59.

My refurbished C block M59 long barrel:
https://sks-files.com/index.php?topic=3972.0

Branko Bogdanovic is his name and occasionally youíll see input from him (generally posted by northernug) on the Military Mauser forum at Gunboards. Heís a historian of Zastava but a specialist in Mausers. JPSís recent book on Serbian WWI era history and firearms was a collaboration with Branko.
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Re: A Few Pics to Share: 081
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2019, 08:45:49 AM »
Phosphorus32, thank you! Out of the ones known, you've pointed out the distinction that I blew right past: serial production receivers coupled with the longer barrels all seem to have the standard (non-windage adjustable) front sight base. And I've promised before, but I'll do my best to post some images from C44140 (or as tagged, C44-140) this week.