GENUINE NVA STAR 1?

[Matchka]

Not being consistent with the "60's"production serial numbers, could this be a genuine NVA SKS. Factory /26\?

[running-man]

Could be, I've seen other non 'native' NVA weapons sporting both their native markings as well as star 1 markings.  Unfortunately, we've also seen a huge increase in various metal stamps being sold via eBay, so maybe someone wanted to turn a $300 gun into a $1000 gun overnight.

What's the story on this gun?

[Boris Badinov]

My first reaction is the that five identical arsenal stamps seems excessive.  NVA guns only have one star stamp, for example. And other than  the soviet guns with the arsenal i.d. on the stock, the majority of sks rifles have only one arsenal stamp (or none at all).  But this one has five?



Can you post some more some more photos of the rifle, like a full length of both sides and some details of the rifle's featrues?

[Matchka]

A few more on the star 1 

[Boris Badinov]

It's definitely got some VN attributes. And the serial range fits.

Any discreet or lightly struck import stamps on the barrel, or possibly obscured between the barrel and bayonet?

It's a great looking gun.  Did it come with a story?

[Phosphorus32]

One-of-a-kinds make me suspicious. Eight separate star-1 marks in non-standard locations, all of which are lightly struck...weird. The grey blanket makes me even more suspicious.

If it's legit it's really something. If not, someone is likely going to take a bath in 8 days. I lean heavily toward the latter.

[martin08]

This is a phenomenon which seems to surface once every three or four years or so.  It has been discussed in depth a few times, with no definitive consensus.  I can say that this is the first time I've seen multiple applications.   It is usually found either once on the metal, or once on the wood.

[carls sks]

  that is a lot of stars.

[Greasemonkey]

This is a phenomenon which seems to surface once every three or four years or so.  It has been discussed in depth a few times, with no definitive consensus.  I can say that this is the first time I've seen multiple applications.   It is usually found either once on the metal, or once on the wood.

Phenomenon... with no definitive consensus     

Sounds sketchy...

One-of-a-kinds make me suspicious.

One-of-a-kind Phenomenon... with no definitive consensus

Even more sketchy.. 


Just my goofy opinion..... all of the loaned, leased, stolen, borrowed, captured, contracted, and sterilized weapons floating around this planet, all of these are usually stamped only once or twice by the winner/receiver of said weapon, be it Finland, Russia, Yugoslavia, some sandy nation in the Middle East, Britain, South America or any other nation one can dream up that had weapons of this sort in their arsenal.... With that many stars, it's practically become, it's own constellation.

Unfortunately, we've also seen a huge increase in various metal stamps being sold via eBay, so maybe someone wanted to turn a $300 gun into a $1000 gun overnight.

Then there is this..... not too long ago there was a rare Polish Mauser that was discovered to have been restamped with fleabay stamps and offered up for a rather large sum of dough on one of them illustrious auction sites.. So restamping, it can, and does happen, in this case, it was caught before some massive buyer butthurt took place..

[Matchka]

I'm going with the CV on the "constellation" and other's instincts (e.g. gray blanket) that it's not a genuine NVA. Unfortunately, don't have access to any more pics. 

[Boris Badinov]

Any idea if it has an import stamp?

[Phosphorus32]

Any idea if it has an import stamp?

Mr. Eisel states that it has no import marks.

[Boris Badinov]

Then there is this..... not too long ago there was a rare Polish Mauser that was discovered to have been restamped with fleabay stamps and offered up for a rather large sum of dough on one of them illustrious auction sites.. So restamping, it can, and does happen, in this case, it was caught before some massive buyer butthurt took place..

I remember this gun!

That was an entertaining one to follow as it developed. It popped up in discussions on several different forums.

The seller was an idiot of the highest order. He used the same account screen name on various sites and some intrepid online dumpster divers were able to discover that someone with the exact same screen name and home city had purchased the fake polish roll stamps in an online auction not long before he put the gun up for sale.

He also posted it for sale on gunbroker while the  finished auction in which he acquired the mauser was still accessible along with all of the photos of the rifle before he humped it.

But his biggest mistake was that he also altered the serial number. Big no-no.

I wonder if the NJ state police or the ATF ever paid him a visit?  I recall that posters on a NJ firearms forum were already making calls to the authorities.

[Boris Badinov]

Mr. Eisel states that it has no import marks.

Who dat?

[Phosphorus32]

Mr. Eisel states that it has no import marks.

Who dat?

Larry Eisel, aka Eisel Armory, aka "The Gray Blanket" 

[Boris Badinov]

Ah. That's where the gray blanket punchline comes from.

I much prefer the gray blanket the unmade bed or, even worse,  bare feet and shiny linoleum.

Is this rifle posted for sale somewhere online?

[Greasemonkey]

Any idea if it has an import stamp?

Not really a definitive method of judging in my book, I've seen reports where some import company owners are quoted as to buying many weapons that were never stamped...then through time released said weapons through friends, good buddy's, and family. As the years wore on, they were released to the general population. In the 70s-80s when things were more laxed.... They could and did get away with a lot more than in current times.

All one would need is one of these type guns, a stamp and poof... Instant one-of-a-kind Phenomenon. Now maybe, if a person had the associated bring back papers.. that would add more plausibility to it.. but anymore even they are starting to get faked.

[running-man]

Who dat?

Larry Eisel, aka Eisel Armory, aka "The Gray Blanket" 

I still call him CGC (Gray Carpet Guy) because his photos were so grainy at one time that I mistook the blanket for a carpet.  There have been *so* many ahem, interesting specimens come through his auctions that it's not a stretch of the imagination to think that perhaps....well never mind, everyone gets the gist.  The appropriate advice when dealing with those types are caveat emptor. 

[Matchka]

$755 

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/793596808

[Phosphorus32]

Active bidding, and 5 days to go. It's fun to watch.