New Russian civil version blade bayonets

[Justin Hell]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Russian-SKS-Simonov-folding-bayonet-Civil-version-Molot-made-/172387332934?hash=item282315f346:g:OaoAAOSwImRYD93t

Heat treated for softness?  I would hate to see what they do to the Charmin.

Cheap considering...with new markings n stuff....it's worth a look.  I likes me some bayonet action, these are interesting.

[fenceline]

Probably not new just etched with new markings.

[running-man]

Heat treated for softness?  I would hate to see what they do to the Charmin.

Russian law prohibits 'working' bayos. They get around it by either notching the bayo at the tang so that a stab with it breaks the bayo at the notch, or by full annealing it so that it will be too weak to keep from bending when used.

Neat auction nonetheless. 

[Justin Hell]

Heat treated for softness?  I would hate to see what they do to the Charmin.

Russian law prohibits 'working' bayos. They get around it by either notching the bayo at the tang so that a stab with it breaks the bayo at the notch, or by full annealing it so that it will bend like a piece of clay when 'used'.

Neat auction nonetheless. 

Well isn't that just like putting a duckbill on a Canadian....bless their hearts.
Mass bayonetting prevention starts at home I suppose. 
At least it sounds as if you could get one use out of it, which is more than likely more than anyone would ever need, but the thought of it getting stuck by being bent around ribs would kind of suck...probably about as much as being in the position to need one....but still. 

[Greasemonkey]

Interesting..

How soft and flimsy must the metal be where it wont "work" to poke a people with. A plastic $0.002 bulk picnic knife can stab. Bronze was used for swords, lance and arrow tips and other things way back then. Bronze is a pretty soft metal when compared to the even soft and primitive by todays standards Iron Age weapons, yet bronze still wreaked havoc in it's time.

[Justin Hell]

I wondered the same, one would think if it was altered by heat treatment, the only thing it would lose would be any tempering it may have had...not some kind of alchemy that would turn it into flubber or a graham cracker....odd.

It would still be rather pointy metal, and have to be strong enough to withstand the spring tension to hold the sucker on in the first place.  You would think you could get away with a few perforations before even a consumer grade bayonet would be rendered useless.  Even in a break away modification, one would be nuts to want to volunteer for testing it's less than lethal properties.  I wonder if they could even be left on for firing without breaking...or if they could withstand being in a hot vehicle in a gun case without melting.

I already have a flexible bayonet on my spiker airsoft SKS...and STILL wouldn't want to get poked with that...it would certainly leave a mark. 

[running-man]

I haven't the foggiest as to why the Russians have the laws written the way they do. I suspect it has quite a bit to do with money and far less to do with actual safety (much like our own laws do, *cough* 922r *cough*).

[Greasemonkey]

Lord please forgive me...

So Russian schools according to that video that was posted, will teach younger students how to field strip and assemble an Ak style weapon blind folded, but they will only release or manufacture Stretch Armstrong jubbly grade bayonets to the general population..  Thats kind of some seriously backazzwards logic.

They must have some really shatastic kitchen knives

[pcke2000]

Lord please forgive me...

So Russian schools according to that video that was posted, will teach younger students how to field strip and assemble an Ak style weapon blind folded, but they will only release or manufacture Stretch Armstrong jubbly grade bayonets to the general population..  Thats kind of some seriously backazzwards logic.

They must have some really shatastic kitchen knives

it's similar in China

[Justin Hell]

Maybe we are just mistaking toys for toddlers as real bayonets, and its a kid safety thing....these are probably for paintball or airsoft guns.

They probably can still have lawn darts too.