Vintage US Army Training Video of Russian SKS Rifle

[firstchoice]

This is the old US Army training video for the Russian SKS. Old and fuzzy to watch, but a curious thing at about 11:00 minutes into the video. Is it the old fuzzy video quality, or is the gas rod solid on the end, with no gas check slots/rings? I'm not that familiar with the older Russian SKS, so it may be a normal thing with them? I wish the video quality was better.

Also, kinda funny, at the 3:45 min. mark, he notes that "the metal butt plate has a cleaning well, where a cleaning rod can be carried". Probably just a mistake by the guy making the video. He never mentions the cleaning rod on the rifle, though.

And, noticed the US Army training video for the Russian AK-47, as well. I'm guessing early-mid 1960's?



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[Dannyboy53]

This is great, thanks for posting it!

[Stoned_Oli]

That's a Chinese SKS. 

[Phosphorus32]

Cool video.  Overall, quite well done considering they were likely extracting all of their information from observation and testing. They even accurately mention the effective range of 470 meters where the bullet makes the transition to sub-sonic flight.

[Loose}{Cannon]

Yup... cool vids.   

[Direct Connection]

You see him pull that charging handle back ! I love it. Thanks First Choice

[Phosphorus32]

Wow, I think these are actually mid 50's videos. In the AK video he says the M43 lies between the "carbine round and the M1 rifle round", which suggests it's before widespread issue of the M-14 as the standard infantry rifle.

[Dannyboy53]

Wow, I think these are actually mid 50's videos. In the AK video he says the M43 lies between the "carbine round and the M1 rifle round", which suggests it's before widespread issue of the M-14 as the standard infantry rifle.

I agree Phosphorus, his uniform would suggest the same time frame. After the Korean War and up until changes in the mid 1960's

[firstchoice]

Wow, I think these are actually mid 50's videos. In the AK video he says the M43 lies between the "carbine round and the M1 rifle round", which suggests it's before widespread issue of the M-14 as the standard infantry rifle.

  It well could be a 1950's video guys. Not sure. The reason I said early to mid 1960's was the reference at 1:42 minutes in the AK video, "Recently, in South Vietnam, a North Vietnamese rifle squad was found to carry seven, or more, of these as an integral part of that squad."

That's a Chinese SKS. 

  Stoned_Oli, I thought the wood looked light for a Russian, but with a black and white video, it's hard to decide. Is there something that I'm overlooking that quickly ID's it as a Chinese SKS? At about 5:15 min. of the SKS video, it shows the "closeup" of the left side of the stock and the SN on the stock, but still nothing definitive because of video quality. Maybe it was an early Chinese with Russian parts and that threw the US Army guys off on the country of origin? Just guessing here.

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[running-man]

Oli has a goid eye, definitely a Chinese type 56 there. Side swivel on the stock gives it away.  Taking the gun at face value and not assuming it's a mixmaster, the gun is a letter gun model or above with that side swivel, so 1959+ But it still has a blade bayo so if that's original also means it is a 9 mil or lower (1964-). Video likely it's from early in the VN conflict. What I can make out of the stock and finish very likely puts it in the 7-9 mil range (1962-1964) in my opinion.

[Stoned_Oli]

Oli has a goid eye, definitely a Chinese type 56 there. Side swivel on the stock gives it away.  Taking the gun at face value and not assuming it's a mixmaster, the gun is a letter gun model or above with that side swivel, so 1959+ But it still has a blade bayo so if that's original also means it is a 9 mil or lower (1964-). Video likely it's from early in the VN conflict. What I can make out of the stock and finish very likely puts it in the 7-9 mil range (1962-1964) in my opinion.

What year did the short lug barrel start? This one is long lug.

[Phosphorus32]

Wow, I think these are actually mid 50's videos. In the AK video he says the M43 lies between the "carbine round and the M1 rifle round", which suggests it's before widespread issue of the M-14 as the standard infantry rifle.

  It well could be a 1950's video guys. Not sure. The reason I said early to mid 1960's was the reference at 1:42 minutes in the AK video, "Recently, in South Vietnam, a North Vietnamese rifle squad was found to carry seven, or more, of these as an integral part of that squad."

Good catch. I missed that comment.  Maybe his apparent comparative reference to .30 carbine and .30-06 was just an old sergeant anachronism 

[Direct Connection]

Notice the feller didn't remove the operating rod when disassemble. He probably lost the spring a few times lol.

[running-man]

What year did the short lug barrel start? This one is long lug.

Short lug was with the 9 mil /26\s in '64.

[Greasemonkey]

Short lug may have started in the 9mil range, but not all 9 millions are short lug.

[running-man]

Right, it's assumed but it's good to keep it explicit: the transition happened somewhere between 9,112,453 and 9,185,506.  I wish I had more data to narrow it down a bit further.