Need Help with the History of a Chinese "Ghost" (Possible IC)

[Dannyboy53]

Does anyone know if there is any significance to the type swivel mounts, the one I used to have sported a "standard' mount like the wooden stocks have versus this one of Dorffs? Or is this another of those Chinese mysteries?!

[Loose}{Cannon]

Dont think I have seen one with a standard bottom swivel.

[Dannyboy53]

Dont think I have seen one with a standard bottom swivel.

The one I had looked like this, ArmedHippie has it now. It was on my /26\ 3 mill gun when I got it and I tried to find out as much as I could about them out of curiosity but I haven't seen much of this type anywhere.

[Loose}{Cannon]

OK...  I had to check the guide because my brain is skipping.   

There was no side swivel version. The spike had a standard swivel like you see there...

[running-man]

This type of sling swivel:



started life out as a side swivel I believe.  They bent the tips on both ends to 90° to wrap around both sides of the stock.  There is an oversized screw that goes through both holes as well as the stock.  The Chinese must have had a buttload of these swivels and wanted to use them up.  It's a weird way to mount a sling swivel when the std ones only require two simple untapped holes and a small mortise in a single location.

[Dannyboy53]

This type of sling swivel:



It's a weird way to mount a sling swivel when the std ones only require two simple untapped holes and a small mortise in a single location.

This is just a WAG on my part running-man, but I figured the Chinese might have had trouble with the screws eventually pulling out of the stock with the standard one from the rigors of field use and went to the strange one like you posted. Be hard to tear the screws out of that one, it must be like a bolt that goes all the way through to the other side of the swivel.

If true that may account for there not seemingly (is that a word?!) being as many as the one you posted.

[Loose}{Cannon]

That bent loop bottom type is on all the blade versions.

[running-man]

This is just a WAG on my part running-man, but I figured the Chinese might have had trouble with the screws eventually pulling out of the stock with the standard one from the rigors of field use and went to the strange one like you posted. Be hard to tear the screws out of that one, it must be like a bolt that goes all the way through to the other side of the swivel.

If true that may account for there not seemingly (is that a word?!) being as many as the one you posted.

There may very wll be something to what you say Danny, the bottom swivel std. screws would be inserted in between the layers of the fiberglass.  Pretty poor holding power on any screw that goes in between laminated layers like that (think of a wood screw going into the edge of a piece of plywood, if the glue gives and the layers split apart a bit, the screw oftentimes just comes right out). 

Of course, on the flip side there are 1000's of Russian laminate stocks (essentially plywood) that have bottom sling swivels too. 

[Dannyboy53]

Of course, on the flip side there are 1000's of Russian laminate stocks (essentially plywood) that have bottom sling swivels too. 

This is true and must be taken into account!! There are a lot of things about these firearms we may never know....that just stinks.

[Loose}{Cannon]

Screwing into the edge of a laminate isn't reall any dif the doing the same on any other wood stock considering the grain direction.  I'm sure it was done because it was fiberglass... May have been reinforced there too.