A BYF44 Eagle F Police P.38

Started by Donp236, March 27, 2016, 02:09:16 PM

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Donp236

My latest acquisition a Mauser BYF44 Eagle F police P.38, made at the Mauser Plant in late October 1944.

The pictures.....

The left side.



The right side.


Loose}{Cannon

 drool2

Gorgeous!!!      How do you tell its police?
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

Phosphorus32

Wow, that looks to be in very good condition. Beautiful. Are the Polizei P.38s rarer than Wehrmacht issue?

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Donp236

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Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on March 27, 2016, 10:38:24 PM
drool2

Gorgeous!!!      How do you tell its police?

By the Eagle F stamp.  There were were two inspectors at the Mauser plant that stamped either Eagle L and Eagle F.  The Eagle F are rare only 1,157 of them made in 1944.  No police P.38's have a letter suffix my pistol is 4869 if it was 4869a it could not be a police gun.  I hope this helps you understand.  The police holster has RB numbers on the back as in my example and a police eagle stamp below the P.38 stamp. The RB number points to a maufacturer of the holster. Some numbers have a known maker and some do not.  Mine is in the do not know category.

Loose}{Cannon

Great info...  Thanks for sharing!
      
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Blicero

Good grief what a beautiful pistol. I know those police guns are stupidly rare.
I wonder if in the collector days of yore guys ever confused the e/L stamps for Luftwaffe marks?

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Donp236

Quote from: Blicero on March 28, 2016, 08:47:37 PM
Good grief what a beautiful pistol. I know those police guns are stupidly rare.
I wonder if in the collector days of yore guys ever confused the e/L stamps for Luftwaffe marks?

Not lately though  the Luftwaffe did not carry P.38 pistols .  Not enough room in the cockpit . They carred smaller pistols LIKE THE Orteges .32 in Theuerman holster.

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Quote from: Donp236 on March 29, 2016, 05:51:43 AM
Quote from: Blicero on March 28, 2016, 08:47:37 PM
Good grief what a beautiful pistol. I know those police guns are stupidly rare.
I wonder if in the collector days of yore guys ever confused the e/L stamps for Luftwaffe marks?

Not lately though  the Luftwaffe pilots did not carry P.38 pistols .  Not enough room in the cockpit . They carred smaller pistols like the Orteges .32 in Theuerman holster. The guards and other ground personnell did in unmarked holsers with only the  LZA Luft waffenampt stamp on them.
On their rarity the Eagle L were produced in 1943 and 1944 so they run a litte below an Eagle F.  The EagleF now days goes for more and is rarer some variances of the Model HP.