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T inside a triangle

Started by Dannyboy53, November 10, 2015, 09:55:30 PM

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Dannyboy53

Can you Russian Gurus tell me what this T inside a triangle means? I saw this one on the East German SKS in the October GB carbines posted by running-man. Mine has the same stamp in the same place as this one.


Loose}{Cannon

The seller is a scammer and nobody knows what exactly that Russian inspection stamp means.

That rifle had NOTHING to do with East Germany.
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

Worm

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on November 10, 2015, 10:09:27 PM
The seller is a scammer and nobody knows what exactly that Russian inspection stamp means.

That rifle had NOTHING to do with East Germany.

^

Dannyboy53

Well I don't give a fart in a windstorm about what flavor it is or isn't. I was just curious about that "T". I figured it might be an inspector's stamp but I wanted to hear it from those that know much more than I.

Loose}{Cannon

      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

Phosphorus32

Hey Danny, can you get a well focused pic of the triangle T (or whatever that is) on your SKS?   :)

With the white paint/grease pencil or whatever filler that the owner of that rifle glopped in there it's hard to pick up the subtleties  nea1

It may just be one of those marks with an unknown meaning  ???

Greasemonkey

Wonder if it ain't a old school Tulsky stamp, or Tula Arms Plant or Tulsky Oruzheiny Zavod

The recent Mosin imports have a triangle T, just now with a circle.



Just an idea..
I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse......

Leave the gun, take the cannoli.

I said I was an addict........I didn't say I had a problem

Loose}{Cannon

Commercial arm of tula...  'Toz'
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

Greasemonkey

Maybe not commercial back in the day. Back in the day, I'm sure it was military, the commercial side came later, which maybe when the triangle changed.
I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse......

Leave the gun, take the cannoli.

I said I was an addict........I didn't say I had a problem

Loose}{Cannon

Could be....  But that /\ and size is in-line with the other 300 some-odd random /\ with letters and numbers found on the Russo sks. 
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

Loose}{Cannon

I dunno....    I have a HEAVY Olympic 22 bench gun with a full blown Tula star with arrow.   
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

Greasemonkey

Tula Arms Plant made TOZ commercial weapons as well as military weapons, Mosins, SKSs, Toks etc.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tula_Arms_Plant

http://www.tulatoz.ru/en/o-predpriyatii/history.php

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Tulsky oruzheiny zavod during World War II

During WWII working under the motto “Everything is for the front, everything is for the victory” the Tula gunsmiths produced  SVT-38/40 sniping rifles, ShVAK aircraft cannons, Nagant revolvers and TT pistols. During WWII working under the motto “Everything is for the front, everything is for the victory” the Tula gunsmiths produced  SVT-38/40 sniping rifles, ShVAK aircraft cannons, Nagant revolvers and TT pistols.

Tulsky oruzheiny zavod in the post-war period

The post-war time was the time of fruitful and hard work in the creation of various sporting and hunting fire-arms). Such models as double-barrel hammerless shotgun T0Z-25, the "BM" double-barrel hammer gun and small-caliber rifles TOZ-8M, TOZ-12, TOZ-16, TOZ-17,            TOZ-18 were designed in these years.
At the same time the plant output 7,62 mm Simonov's carbines SCS.

In 1965 the plant  produced a famous over-and-under double-barrel shotgun TOZ-34 designed by N. I. Korovyakov and V. P. Ochnev. In 1961—1982 the Tula Arms Plant received an  production order of the worldwide known Kalashnikov assault rifle ( it was put into production 6 modifications of the rifle), anti-tank guided missile as the part of the "Malyutka", "Fagot", "Konkurs" complexes; underbarrel grenade launcher "Kostyor".

HUH, they made Simonov's carbines, and TOZs...imagine that... :)
I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse......

Leave the gun, take the cannoli.

I said I was an addict........I didn't say I had a problem

Loose}{Cannon

Did I say something different?

All I'm saying is the Toz stamp went on the sporting guns. 
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

Dannyboy53

Quote from: Phosphorus32 on November 10, 2015, 11:09:11 PM
Hey Danny, can you get a well focused pic of the triangle T (or whatever that is) on your SKS?   :)

With the white paint/grease pencil or whatever filler that the owner of that rifle glopped in there it's hard to pick up the subtleties  nea1

It may just be one of those marks with an unknown meaning  ???

Yes sir I'll get it done this evening. My thanks to all for answering!

jjjxlr8

As others have indicated, it's a hammer, not a "T".

running-man

Quote from: jjjxlr8 on November 12, 2015, 04:16:12 PM
As others have indicated, it's a hammer, not a "T".

Interesting!  7.62x54.net has this image of a Tula hammer (albeit not in a triangle):


Lotema on russian-mosin-nagant-forum.com has this on a MN tang:


Another one from 7.62x54R.net, this time within a Tula star:


It'll be interesting what Danny comes up with off his SKS.
      

Greasemonkey2.0

Quote from: jjjxlr8 on November 12, 2015, 04:16:12 PM
As others have indicated, it's a hammer, not a "T".

What others, who? just curious. :)

Dannyboy53

Here is the T on my carbine, it isn't the "Tula hammer" as far as I can tell.




Bunker

Quote from: running-man on November 12, 2015, 05:20:31 PM

Another one from 7.62x54R.net, this time within a Tula star:


It'll be interesting what Danny comes up with off his SKS.

Plant 536 brand.

jjjxlr8

Quote from: Greasemonkey2.0 on November 12, 2015, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: jjjxlr8 on November 12, 2015, 04:16:12 PM
As others have indicated, it's a hammer, not a "T".

What others, who? just curious. :)

Sorry...I was referring to Greasemonkey's links.  I guess it's not clear whether it's a T or a hammer, but I think it represents Tula either way.

Here's another example - sometimes the hammer looks like a T and I suppose in the original post, the T may be looking like the Tula hammer!