/016\ vs /416\ (split from Security SKS thread)

[Worm]

its 016....not 416

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016
0140
0141
0144

Its 416 not 016

[Loose}{Cannon]

prove it

[Worm]

K,

This was a discussion a while back in the Ak world. The "tail" was found to actually be a 4, not a 0.

Polytech AK's are only found with two factory stamps, /416\ & (386). No others. (Norinco MAK90's were all /66\)

Here's the deal.

Example of controversial 016/416 on SKS with Tail (4):


Polytech made in 1985, identical as ours, and so are all the others pre- 1986.



Updated Polytech 416 stamping, 1987.



All the rest of the Polytechs that I have seen post 86' have this updated mark, the old stamp does not exist post 86'.

416 stamp is updated post 86' to look more prominent.

The "tail" is not a bur 

[Loose}{Cannon]

There is just as many pics showing NO tail... thats the problem.  The last one you show is very dif then one in question.

[K-9]

I will try to get a better picture of mine if that helps.

[Worm]

There is just as many pics showing NO tail... thats the problem.  The last one you show is very dif then one in question.

Well did you even read my post? The /416\ on the bottom is very different BECAUSE its post-86, all beforehand are the other, older variation, both on Polytech Ak's and SKS's.

And yes, there are many without a tail, those would be /016\ or a broken stamp /416\, but the tail is a /416\, the Polytech timeline is proof

[Worm]

I will try to get a better picture of mine if that helps.

Looks like it has the tail, I say 416. There is no reason a 0 should have a tail as if it were a 4. We know for a fact there is a 416 factory, both on the Polytechs and the written out "416 M21"'s

[Worm]

Also, just doing a quick google search, can't find me a single /016\, all /416\ with tail, or covered by the stock which is why people dont realize it has the tail, kind of like mine

[Loose}{Cannon]

Well..   Yeah ahuk ahuk.. Iza read yo post.

My issue is....  Its very dif which could mean a dif location stamp all together. What proof is there the stamp 'changed' and its not a new stamp?

Either way... having both is pissin me off.  One of them is getting axed from the list.

[Loose}{Cannon]

Also, just doing a quick google search, can't find me a single /016\, all /416\ with tail, or covered by the stock which is why people dont realize it has the tail, kind of like mine

Do I really need to start uploading pics to gay ass bucket?

[Worm]

Well..   Yeah ahuk ahuk.. Iza read yo post.

My issue is....  Its very dif which could mean a dif location stamp all together. What proof is there the stamp 'changed' and its not a new stamp?

Either way... having both is pissin me off.  One of them is getting axed from the list.

Put it this way,

Sks - Old tail stamp
Polytech 85 - Old tail stamp
Polytech 86 - Old tail stamp (from what ive found)          v Changes
Polytech 87 - New 416 Stamp
Polytech 88 - New 416 Stamp
Polytexh 89 - New 416 Stamp

[Loose}{Cannon]

Oh..  look what happens when you dont use 416 as the search term.

[running-man]

I split this topic for clarity's sake.

Do I really need to start uploading pics to gay ass bucket?

Yup and I do too. There are a ton of /016\ /416\ guns out there in everyone's records/info. I'm sure we can figure things out if we focus on it.   

[Worm]

It's a ****ty picture and it has a tail IMO..

[Loose}{Cannon]

Well..   Yeah ahuk ahuk.. Iza read yo post.

My issue is....  Its very dif which could mean a dif location stamp all together. What proof is there the stamp 'changed' and its not a new stamp?

Either way... having both is pissin me off.  One of them is getting axed from the list.

Put it this way,

Sks - Old tail stamp
Polytech 85 - Old tail stamp
Polytech 86 - Old tail stamp (from what ive found)          v Changes
Polytech 87 - New 416 Stamp
Polytech 88 - New 416 Stamp
Polytexh 89 - New 416 Stamp

Like I said...   Poly wasnt a factory. How do you know what factory the 86 vs 87 came from?  Looks like a completely dif stamp and an easy way out.

[Loose}{Cannon]

It's a ****ty picture and it has a tail IMO..

Remember what happened the last time we played this game.  You need glasses!

[Loose}{Cannon]

Is this clear enough?

[Loose}{Cannon]

Oh look...  its like the line stops anywhere and every where!   

[Worm]

Well..   Yeah ahuk ahuk.. Iza read yo post.

My issue is....  Its very dif which could mean a dif location stamp all together. What proof is there the stamp 'changed' and its not a new stamp?

Either way... having both is pissin me off.  One of them is getting axed from the list.

Put it this way,

Sks - Old tail stamp
Polytech 85 - Old tail stamp
Polytech 86 - Old tail stamp (from what ive found)          v Changes
Polytech 87 - New 416 Stamp
Polytech 88 - New 416 Stamp
Polytexh 89 - New 416 Stamp

Like I said...   Poly wasnt a factory. How do you know what factory the 86 vs 87 came from?  Looks like a completely dif stamp and an easy way out.

No, I provided proof. Accept it or not, I dont need and approval stamp to acknowledge the obvious. I have a feeling most will agree that these are 416's, its common knowledge in the Ak community who has the same exact stamp.

The timeline says it all

It's a ****ty picture and it has a tail IMO..

Remember what happened the last time we played this game.  You need glasses!

If you can't see that it's impossible to tell in that picture, then you need glasses. Carl has one with the tail that you can barely see in a close up picture, but says it obviously has the tail in person. Your one picture is ****. Find me another. I can find you as many /416\'s as you'd like. And no, I googled /016\ and saw 3 /416\'s, this ****ty picture, and a bunch under the wood line. MOST ARE UNDER THE WOOD LINE. Mine is, many are, and if the tail is under there, people will immedietely say /016\.

And I dont deny there may be an /016\, I'm saying most are 416's, the ones with the tail ARE 416's,  and there IS a difference.

The timeline says it all.

[Greasemonkey]

Like I said...   Poly wasnt a factory. How do you know what factory the 86 vs 87 came from?  Looks like a completely dif stamp and an easy way out.

Poly Technologies, not a factory?   They absolutely are so a factory, based in Beijing 

a subsidiary of China Poly Group Corporation, is a defense manufacturing company with headquarters in Beijing, China. The company deals with missiles and other military products. The company was founded by the Chinese People's Liberation Army in order to provide competition to China North Industries Corporation (Norinco). Since 2005, Poly Technologies has always been the three best military import and export companies in China.

http://www.poly.com.cn/en/tabid/426/language/zh-CN/Default.aspx

Don't confuse the real Chinese manufacturing with the U.S. importer

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