More on Arsenal Stamps DB, DP + Single Chinese character + serial number

[pcke2000]

This was brought up in a thread on gunboards:

"Coincidentally, D, B, are the leading characters in Pinyin (language writing/reading system used in Mainland China) for Dong (East) Bei (North) which means Northeast or Northeastern in English....
So what about DP? Well P sounds and looks like B in Pinyin system"
https://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?1157601-Can-t-identify-my-SKS&p=10349235#post10349235

That does not sound right (in mainland China).

[Boris Badinov]

This was brought up in a thread on gunboards:

"Coincidentally, D, B, are the leading characters in Pinyin (language writing/reading system used in Mainland China) for Dong (East) Bei (North) which means Northeast or Northeastern in English....
So what about DP? Well P sounds and looks like B in Pinyin system"
https://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?1157601-Can-t-identify-my-SKS&p=10349235#post10349235

That does not sound right (in mainland China).

What about in the  three Dongbei provinces themselves? Could it be a regional pronunciation , some affect of northeastern dialect?

[Boris Badinov]

This was brought up in a thread on gunboards:

Well P sounds and looks like B in Pinyin system"

That does not sound right (in mainland China).

Perhaps the DP designation is an amalgam of Pinyin and Wade-Giles latinizations.

DongBei = Pinyin
TungPei = Wade-Giles

Goven the fact that all of the cities are located in Dongbei/Tungpei (aka Inner Manchuria) its seems very likley that the  DP/DB designations (regardkess of what they may mean) may be  regionally specific designators.

No?

[Phosphorus32]

I raised the Dōngběi idea a few years ago (middle of page 6). The P I'm still uncertain about but I agree that it's most likely referring to the region, since all of the DBs and DPs city designations fall in Dōngběi.

[Justin Hell]

I raised the Dōngběi idea a few years ago (middle of page 6). The P I'm still uncertain about but I agree that it's most likely referring to the region, since all of the DBs and DPs city designations fall in Dōngběi.

OK, could it be both Ds stand for Dōngběi?  Could the B and P further separate the cities, like Dōngběi North or Dōngběi South?  Dōngběi Crips or Dōngběi Bloods? 

[Phosphorus32]

I raised the Dōngběi idea a few years ago (middle of page 6). The P I'm still uncertain about but I agree that it's most likely referring to the region, since all of the DBs and DPs city designations fall in Dōngběi.

OK, could it be both Ds stand for Dōngběi?  Could the B and P further separate the cities, like Dōngběi North or Dōngběi South?  Dōngběi Crips or Dōngběi Bloods? 

Interesting idea, but if you look at where the cities lie on a map, also on page 6, the P and B cities are interspersed, so I don't think that's it.

[Justin Hell]

I raised the Dōngběi idea a few years ago (middle of page 6). The P I'm still uncertain about but I agree that it's most likely referring to the region, since all of the DBs and DPs city designations fall in Dōngběi.

OK, could it be both Ds stand for Dōngběi?  Could the B and P further separate the cities, like Dōngběi North or Dōngběi South?  Dōngběi Crips or Dōngběi Bloods? 

Interesting idea, but if you look at where the cities lie on a map, also on page 6, the P and B cities are interspersed, so I don't think that's it.

I hoped someone would look at a map for me...thanks! 
In that case, B/P could be as silly as Sheriff vs. Highway Patrol too....or the Chinese equivalent.

[Phosphorus32]

Bringing my map graphic forward from page 6, though it may be a bit out of date.

[Greatguns]

Adding my DP pic on here so it is referenced. Also have a question, weren't there some DK stamped SKSs as well? Vaguely remember that in the discussion somewhere(maybe on Gunboards) and it being Korea. Just what I remembered, not saying it is correct thought.

[Phosphorus32]

I've never heard of a "DK" stamp or a Korean connection...


...but I'd vote for a Dead Kennedys connection if a DK version did surface

[Justin Hell]

I've never heard of a "DK" stamp or a Korean connection...


...but I'd vote for a Dead Kennedys connection if a DK version did surface

I so love this place.

[Phosphorus32]

I've never heard of a "DK" stamp or a Korean connection...


...but I'd vote for a Dead Kennedys connection if a DK version did surface

I so love this place.

   

[Justin Hell]

/I>k\

[Greatguns]

/I>k\

I never knew a Capitol I was greater than a lower case k. Learn something knew every day on these threads.

[Justin Hell]

/I>k\

I never knew a Capitol I was greater than a lower case k. Learn something knew every day on these threads.

Well, it is a capital letter....
That was the best I could come up with to try make a Dead Kennedy's logo factory stamp.  I tried a couple other ways...that was closest.

[Greatguns]

/I>k\

I never knew a Capitol I was greater than a lower case k. Learn something knew every day on these threads.

Well, it is a capital letter....
That was the best I could come up with to try make a Dead Kennedy's logo factory stamp.  I tried a couple other ways...that was closest.

[100Acre]

This DP came into the shop some time ago, missing a bolt. My buddy that works there is trying to rebuild it. The Kanji are confusing as the 1st three seem to represent different cities. The last one I'm not so sure about. Any thoughts? I seemed to have lost the full rifle picture....

[Greatguns]

If you look above at my pic you'll see yours is the same. Last three are the Type 56 Kanji symbols with the first one being Yanji City

[100Acre]

Thanks . I'm curious about the R in front of the serial number too

[Phosphorus32]

Thanks . I'm curious about the R in front of the serial number too

The random prefix or suffix single letters found on Type 56s are still of uncertain origin, though they were definitely done after original manufacture by either the exporter or importer. I tend toward the importer doing it in order to ensure that the serial number was unique within their records, as required by law.

This excludes the 1959-60 "letter gun" production, which are easily picked out by their features (Factory 26, long lug threaded barrel, lightening cuts in bayonet lug and bolt carrier, side swivel) and that the letter precedes 4 to 5 numbers with the same font style.