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Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on May 10, 2015, 12:32:43 PM
its 016....not 416

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016
0140
0141
0144

Its 416 not 016

prove it

rofl

K,

This was a discussion a while back in the Ak world. The "tail" was found to actually be a 4, not a 0.

Polytech AK's are only found with two factory stamps, /416\ & (386). No others. (Norinco MAK90's were all /66\)

Here's the deal.

Example of controversial 016/416 on SKS with Tail (4):


Polytech made in 1985, identical as ours, and so are all the others pre- 1986.

(http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/u604/mspeth23/image_zpsmuqbjthk.jpg)

Updated Polytech 416 stamping, 1987.

(http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/u604/mspeth23/image_zpsmmdttbbu.jpg)

All the rest of the Polytechs that I have seen post 86' have this updated mark, the old stamp does not exist post 86'.

416 stamp is updated post 86' to look more prominent.

The "tail" is not a bur  ::)

There is just as many pics showing NO tail... thats the problem.  The last one you show is very dif then one in question.

I will try to get a better picture of mine if that helps.

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z46/sdh68/Mobile%20Uploads/photo-1_zps2079e7a6.jpeg)

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on May 10, 2015, 06:59:46 PM
There is just as many pics showing NO tail... thats the problem.  The last one you show is very dif then one in question.

Well did you even read my post? The /416\ on the bottom is very different BECAUSE its post-86, all beforehand are the other, older variation, both on Polytech Ak's and SKS's.

And yes, there are many without a tail, those would be /016\ or a broken stamp /416\, but the tail is a /416\, the Polytech timeline is proof

Quote from: K-9 on May 10, 2015, 07:01:39 PM
I will try to get a better picture of mine if that helps.

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z46/sdh68/Mobile%20Uploads/photo-1_zps2079e7a6.jpeg)

Looks like it has the tail, I say 416. There is no reason a 0 should have a tail as if it were a 4. We know for a fact there is a 416 factory, both on the Polytechs and the written out "416 M21"'s

Also, just doing a quick google search, can't find me a single /016\, all /416\ with tail, or covered by the stock which is why people dont realize it has the tail, kind of like mine

Well..   Yeah ahuk ahuk.. Iza read yo post.

My issue is....  Its very dif which could mean a dif location stamp all together. What proof is there the stamp 'changed' and its not a new stamp?

Either way... having both is pissin me off.  One of them is getting axed from the list.

Quote from: Worm on May 10, 2015, 07:12:03 PM
Also, just doing a quick google search, can't find me a single /016\, all /416\ with tail, or covered by the stock which is why people dont realize it has the tail, kind of like mine

Do I really need to start uploading pics to gay ass bucket?

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on May 10, 2015, 07:13:12 PM
Well..   Yeah ahuk ahuk.. Iza read yo post.

My issue is....  Its very dif which could mean a dif location stamp all together. What proof is there the stamp 'changed' and its not a new stamp?

Either way... having both is pissin me off.  One of them is getting axed from the list.

Put it this way,

Sks - Old tail stamp
Polytech 85 - Old tail stamp
Polytech 86 - Old tail stamp (from what ive found)          v Changes
Polytech 87 - New 416 Stamp
Polytech 88 - New 416 Stamp
Polytexh 89 - New 416 Stamp

Oh..  look what happens when you dont use 416 as the search term.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/tangara/Chinese%20SKS/02.jpg)

I split this topic for clarity's sake.

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on May 10, 2015, 07:13:58 PM
Do I really need to start uploading pics to gay ass bucket?

Yup and I do too. There are a ton of /016\ /416\ guns out there in everyone's records/info. I'm sure we can figure things out if we focus on it.   clap1

It's a ****ty picture and it has a tail IMO..

Quote from: Worm on May 10, 2015, 07:20:51 PM

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on May 10, 2015, 07:13:12 PM
Well..   Yeah ahuk ahuk.. Iza read yo post.

My issue is....  Its very dif which could mean a dif location stamp all together. What proof is there the stamp 'changed' and its not a new stamp?

Either way... having both is pissin me off.  One of them is getting axed from the list.

Put it this way,

Sks - Old tail stamp
Polytech 85 - Old tail stamp
Polytech 86 - Old tail stamp (from what ive found)          v Changes
Polytech 87 - New 416 Stamp
Polytech 88 - New 416 Stamp
Polytexh 89 - New 416 Stamp

Like I said...   Poly wasnt a factory. How do you know what factory the 86 vs 87 came from?  Looks like a completely dif stamp and an easy way out.

Quote from: Worm on May 10, 2015, 07:23:08 PM
It's a ****ty picture and it has a tail IMO..

rofl rofl rofl

Remember what happened the last time we played this game.  You need glasses!

Is this clear enough?


(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee269/mrcoinring/mrcoinring001/016b.jpg)

Oh look...  its like the line stops anywhere and every where!   

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee269/mrcoinring/IMG_20150510_185923.jpg)

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on May 10, 2015, 07:25:18 PM

Quote from: Worm on May 10, 2015, 07:20:51 PM

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on May 10, 2015, 07:13:12 PM
Well..   Yeah ahuk ahuk.. Iza read yo post.

My issue is....  Its very dif which could mean a dif location stamp all together. What proof is there the stamp 'changed' and its not a new stamp?

Either way... having both is pissin me off.  One of them is getting axed from the list.

Put it this way,

Sks - Old tail stamp
Polytech 85 - Old tail stamp
Polytech 86 - Old tail stamp (from what ive found)          v Changes
Polytech 87 - New 416 Stamp
Polytech 88 - New 416 Stamp
Polytexh 89 - New 416 Stamp

Like I said...   Poly wasnt a factory. How do you know what factory the 86 vs 87 came from?  Looks like a completely dif stamp and an easy way out.

No, I provided proof. Accept it or not, I dont need and approval stamp to acknowledge the obvious. I have a feeling most will agree that these are 416's, its common knowledge in the Ak community who has the same exact stamp.

The timeline says it all

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on May 10, 2015, 07:26:41 PM

Quote from: Worm on May 10, 2015, 07:23:08 PM
It's a ****ty picture and it has a tail IMO..

rofl rofl rofl

Remember what happened the last time we played this game.  You need glasses!

If you can't see that it's impossible to tell in that picture, then you need glasses. Carl has one with the tail that you can barely see in a close up picture, but says it obviously has the tail in person. Your one picture is ****. Find me another. I can find you as many /416\'s as you'd like. And no, I googled /016\ and saw 3 /416\'s, this ****ty picture, and a bunch under the wood line. MOST ARE UNDER THE WOOD LINE. Mine is, many are, and if the tail is under there, people will immedietely say /016\.

And I dont deny there may be an /016\, I'm saying most are 416's, the ones with the tail ARE 416's,  and there IS a difference.

The timeline says it all.

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on May 10, 2015, 07:25:18 PM

Like I said...   Poly wasnt a factory. How do you know what factory the 86 vs 87 came from?  Looks like a completely dif stamp and an easy way out.

Poly Technologies, not a factory? ???  They absolutely are so a factory, based in Beijing  bat1

Quotea subsidiary of China Poly Group Corporation, is a defense manufacturing company with headquarters in Beijing, China. The company deals with missiles and other military products. The company was founded by the Chinese People's Liberation Army in order to provide competition to China North Industries Corporation (Norinco). Since 2005, Poly Technologies has always been the three best military import and export companies in China.

http://www.poly.com.cn/en/tabid/426/language/zh-CN/Default.aspx

Don't confuse the real Chinese manufacturing with the U.S. importer

Poly Technologies | The Original Chinese AK47 and SKS Rifle Parts (http://stores.polytechparts.com/)

Missed the Tech.. oops. You guys need to be postng in the new split topic.  Thats where my **** picture is.

I really dont care what you wanna call it. They are the same stamp and one of them is going bye bye.

But....   Isnt what the AK guys are going off of when calling it a Poly Tech?  ... the importer?

Quote from: Greasemonkey on May 10, 2015, 08:46:06 PM

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on May 10, 2015, 07:25:18 PM

Like I said...   Poly wasnt a factory. How do you know what factory the 86 vs 87 came from?  Looks like a completely dif stamp and an easy way out.

Poly Technologies, not a factory? ???  They absolutely are so a factory, based in Beijing  bat1

Quotea subsidiary of China Poly Group Corporation, is a defense manufacturing company with headquarters in Beijing, China. The company deals with missiles and other military products. The company was founded by the Chinese People's Liberation Army in order to provide competition to China North Industries Corporation (Norinco). Since 2005, Poly Technologies has always been the three best military import and export companies in China.

http://www.poly.com.cn/en/tabid/426/language/zh-CN/Default.aspx

Don't confuse the real Chinese manufacturing with the U.S. importer

Poly Technologies | The Original Chinese AK47 and SKS Rifle Parts (http://stores.polytechparts.com/)

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on May 10, 2015, 09:28:07 PM
But....   Isnt what the AK guys are going off of when calling it a Poly Tech?  ... the importer?

Ok, the way I have understood this Chinese mess:

Poly Tech is/was made by a Poly Tech factory. They were exported by Poly Tech in China and imported by very few importers, such as K.F.S. and P.T.I. Some importers, not only handled Poly Tech, but also imported Norinco weapons, so it's possible, like Keng's to find both manufactures back in the day.  PolyTech labled weapons also carry their own specific factory numbers. 

WipedOut (http://chicom47.com/Pics/PolyTech/PolyTech.htm)

Today, the pretty much exclusive importer of the brand name is Poly Technologies | The Original Chinese AK47 and SKS Rifle Parts (http://stores.polytechparts.com/)

Ok, finally fixed my mistake when I split this topic off the previous PS thread.

I've got 136 images of /016\ / /416\ SKSs.  Of the shots that show arsenal stamps, I've got about 5 that show a clear /416\ through the 17 mil to 24 mil time period.  I have one fairly decent shot of one with a very iffy looking 4 that could easily look like a zero.    The rest are all below the woodline or are too low resolution to be of any real use in this exercise.  I'll blow up the relevant marks and then we can decide wha we think.  I'm strongly leaning /416\.  The AK stuff Mitch produced I hadn't seen before (I'll be the first to say I'm clueless when it comes to AKs)  thumb1

  New to the board but this is a subject that I've wondered about for a long time. Is there a picture of the "Arsenal 016" rifles with the number in an oval, say like the 974 or the 386 in-the-oval arsenal stamps? Example of the 974:
(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20SKS%20Rifle%20762x39mm-State%20Arsenal%20974%20Mfg/SAM_3551.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/firstchoice14/media/Chinese%20SKS%20Rifle%20762x39mm-State%20Arsenal%20974%20Mfg/SAM_3551.jpg.html)

  I've seen references to the 016, but never a pic of one. But my own experiences show the triangle 416, on my Security Forces SKS, and my "M". I've also seen the triangle 416 on a Receiver Cover with scope rail mounted on it.

  LC, I can't tell anything from the last pic you posted, (too blurry), but the first one you posted shows the "leg". 
 
  A pic of my "M":

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20SKS-M%20762x39mm%20Carbine/2015-05-10%20Chinese%20Arsenal%20Stamps_416%20004_zpscnsrrem2.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/firstchoice14/media/Chinese%20SKS-M%20762x39mm%20Carbine/2015-05-10%20Chinese%20Arsenal%20Stamps_416%20004_zpscnsrrem2.jpg.html)

  And of the scope rail I referred to, (Also a blurry pic):  (pulled from the web)

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/SKS%20Accessories%20Pics/Chinese%20SKS%20Scope%20Mount%20with%20State%20Arsenal%20Code%20-Triangle-416-Stamp_zpsr1yyhknl.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/firstchoice14/media/SKS%20Accessories%20Pics/Chinese%20SKS%20Scope%20Mount%20with%20State%20Arsenal%20Code%20-Triangle-416-Stamp_zpsr1yyhknl.jpg.html)

  I don't have my Security Forces next to me to take a better, clearer pic of, but here's an old pic of it:

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20SKS%20762x39-Chinese%20Security%20Forces%20SKS/SAM_3422.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/firstchoice14/media/Chinese%20SKS%20762x39-Chinese%20Security%20Forces%20SKS/SAM_3422.jpg.html)

  I can take a better pic if it would help anything. I see this is a split topic. I hope that my post is relevant to the topic and not off-topic.  :-\

  firstchoice

If GM would stop posting in the other thread.. it wouldn't be confusing.   rofl

Quote
  LC, I can't tell anything from the last pic you posted, (too blurry), but the first one you posted shows the "leg". 

The first one is clear as day and has no leg.  The second clearly shows the vertical line stops before meeting the bottom horizontal line.

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on May 10, 2015, 11:05:24 PM
If GM would stop posting in the other thread.. it wouldn't be confusing.   rofl

Quote
  LC, I can't tell anything from the last pic you posted, (too blurry), but the first one you posted shows the "leg". 

The first one is clear as day and has no leg.  The second clearly shows the vertical line stops before meeting the bottom horizontal line.

IMO, the first pic you posted could have a leg. The top of the stamp is MUCH deeper in the metal, indicating an uneven strike. The bottom of the stamp is much more shallow and it looks like the leg of the stamp just tickled the receiver.

Also, I see some of these guns with KFS import stamps. I spoke to Kengs a while back about the $50 certificate they offer for any SKS or AK that was imported through PolyTech (the importer, not the manufacturer). They said they have arsenal and production numbers for all those guns. Has anyone ever paid to get the info on their KFS/Polytech SKS to see exactly what's on the certificate?

GM posting on the old thread was my fault.  I moved them while he was in the process of posting and he got left behind.  I'll send the short bus with padded rubber walls to pick him up and merge his post with this topic so we're all on this page for once and for all.

Anywhoo, I've got 4 examples that I think are pretty indicative of /416\.  The quality isn't the best, but Ive blown them up for better detail:

First is a 17th year gun:
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/arsenal_stamps/17164xx_stamp.jpg~original)

Another 17th year gun only about 3000 down the line (though this is to be expected if there is a broken stamp or something)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/arsenal_stamps/17193xx_stamp.jpg~original)

Next is an 18th year gun (I could still believe a broken stamp here, but you're getting pretty iffy)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/arsenal_stamps/180308XX_stamp.jpg~original)

and finally a 24th year gun with two different views of the stamp.  There is absolutely no way the Chinese would be using a broken stamp for 7 full years, especially in a mid production facility like /016\ /  /416\. 
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/arsenal_stamps/240161xx_stamp.jpg~original)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Chinese/arsenal_stamps/240161xx_stamp2.jpg~original)

I think adding this to the points FirstChoice made earlier about not seeing "016" anywhere else, but seeing "416" in *lots* of places including on totally different lines of guns like AKs pretty much settles it for me.  The images of /016\ with the small portion below the 0 missing could be explained by numerous things:

• There really is a /016\ stamp and it is distinctly different than /416\.
• The /416\ stamp has broken at the tail on the 4 (high stress area there so it would make sense) and the /016\ we see missing the tail are pretty much grouped together until they noticed and/or replaced the stamp.
• The /016\ stamp is really a /416\ stamp and the lighting and image quality are poor enough that we think we're seeing something we're not.

  The Arsenal Stamp on my "M" is not a traditional "stamp", more like an engraving, or etching. Not quite sure of the technique?  With the clear picture of that stamp, the Chinese would not have added the leg to another form of stamping, out of another mistake. I "think" there is enough evidence to prove the existence of an Arsenal 416. I haven't seen the evidence to prove the 016 in a clear and repeated example. Pictures are hard to decipher. I have yet to hold a 416 in my hands that didn't have the "leg". JMHO

firstchoice 

Or..  There really is a 416 and its distinctly different.   :) 

Hey, Im just making sure you guys cover all bases by playing devils advocate before the 016 gets deleted. No need for pissy comments.

(http://sks-files.com/Themes/1080/images/watered2.jpg)

Quote from: firstchoice on May 11, 2015, 12:12:11 AM
  The Arsenal Stamp on my "M" is not a traditional "stamp", more like an engraving, or etching. Not quite sure of the technique?  With the clear picture of that stamp, the Chinese would not have added the leg to another form of stamping, out of another mistake. I "think" there is enough evidence to prove the existence of an Arsenal 416. I haven't seen the evidence to prove the 016 in a clear and repeated example. Pictures are hard to decipher. I have yet to hold a 416 in my hands that didn't have the "leg". JMHO

firstchoice

I should have saved more pics throughout the years. There have been plenty without a leg or I wouldn't think twice about it. Is it likely a missing portion of the stamp... yup.   Thats one dumb way to make a 4 imho.

  Oh goodness, please don't take my comment the wrong way. Not trying to be "pissy" in any way, shape, or form. Just giving my opinion.  :)

  And yes, I think it was one dumb way to make a 4, as well. Too confusing.

firstchoice

Not you.. lol . Anything can be forced into law if the other side isnt represented at all. I just like to ask the hard questions that will enviably come up.

  Just found a PolyTech AKS-223 5.56x45mm AK-47 (Preban) on a current GB auction. As the pics show, it's an Arsenal /416\ PolyTech rifle.

(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/PolyTech%20AKS-223%20556x45mm%20AK-47%20_Preban_/PREBAN%20PolyTech%20AKS-223%205.56x45mm%20AK-47_zpsiljmwh65.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/firstchoice14/media/PolyTech%20AKS-223%20556x45mm%20AK-47%20_Preban_/PREBAN%20PolyTech%20AKS-223%205.56x45mm%20AK-47_zpsiljmwh65.jpg.html)(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/PolyTech%20AKS-223%20556x45mm%20AK-47%20_Preban_/PREBAN%20PolyTech%20AKS-223%205.56x45mm%20AK-47-2_zpsahoa9q3y.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/firstchoice14/media/PolyTech%20AKS-223%20556x45mm%20AK-47%20_Preban_/PREBAN%20PolyTech%20AKS-223%205.56x45mm%20AK-47-2_zpsahoa9q3y.jpg.html)(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/PolyTech%20AKS-223%20556x45mm%20AK-47%20_Preban_/PREBAN%20PolyTech%20AKS-223%205.56x45mm%20AK-47-3_zpsdrchpa2y.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/firstchoice14/media/PolyTech%20AKS-223%20556x45mm%20AK-47%20_Preban_/PREBAN%20PolyTech%20AKS-223%205.56x45mm%20AK-47-3_zpsdrchpa2y.jpg.html)(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/PolyTech%20AKS-223%20556x45mm%20AK-47%20_Preban_/PREBAN%20PolyTech%20AKS-223%205.56x45mm%20AK-47-4_zpsa0kzcaqg.jpg) (http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/firstchoice14/media/PolyTech%20AKS-223%20556x45mm%20AK-47%20_Preban_/PREBAN%20PolyTech%20AKS-223%205.56x45mm%20AK-47-4_zpsa0kzcaqg.jpg.html)

  It's a current, ongoing GB auction. Not trying to promote it, just using the pics as reference.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=487114693

  Just wanted to throw another /416\ example up for consideration.

  firstchoice

No worries about posting auctions here.  We don't have asinine 'you must follow the unwritten rules or be banned' policies that sksboards has.

The AK stamps are clearly /416\. The SKS M stamps are clearly /416\ too. It's some of the early ones that are less clear, but I think a case could be made that they are all /416\s. I've been focusing in on the early stamps with the pointy topped 1 that are less clear.  Same pointy topped 1 as in your example.   All good data though.  thumb1

  Is there an actual picture example of the /416\ listed in the table (below) that LC posted earlier? I don't know the history of these representations, if they're exact replications of the arsenal mark, or just a simple numbered triangle to represent the arsenal? Many of the more complex triangle arsenal markings, well, I wouldn't know which numbers would go in what order? Many are hard to even decipher the numbers, much less the order they go in.

  I think I'll email the Chinese Defense Minister, or whatever his title is, and ask him to send us a detailed list and timeline of arsenal productions.  thankyou1  I mean, it's not like they would say no, eh?  chuckles1   :P

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on May 11, 2015, 12:13:55 AM

(http://sks-files.com/Themes/1080/images/watered2.jpg)

  firstchoice

These charts follow a long and convoluted path.  Some that were 'claimed' to have been seen, are in fact misrepresentations of standard marks.  I know for a fact that /36\ looks so close to /136\ that I personally have confused them together before.  The /416\ below may very well be one of those and the only true /416\ is what we've been talking about in this thread. 

We are going to be cleaning up the charts soon and removing those not verified with photo evidence.  If/when new ones are found, we will simply add them in.  Better to have verified stamps than speculated ones in my book.

Quote from: running-man on June 04, 2015, 08:44:33 AMBetter to have verified stamps than speculated ones in my book.

+1

Quote from: running-man on June 04, 2015, 08:44:33 AM

We are going to be cleaning up the charts soon and removing those not verified with photo evidence.  If/when new ones are found, we will simply add them in.  Better to have verified stamps than speculated ones in my book.

thumb1 Great Idea there RM. We could have a "Photo proven" sticky post, where members could post up their arsenal stamps and found, clear Photos of arsenal stamps. It will take a while but we'll have our own SKS Files 100% Photo backed Arsenal Stamp Chart.

Example of /326\

(http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz228/armedhippie/arsenal%20stamps%20and%20different%20stamps/six%20corps%20and%20arsenal%20stamps%20018_zps5iqjjwcu.jpg)

(http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz228/armedhippie/arsenal%20stamps%20and%20different%20stamps/six%20corps%20and%20arsenal%20stamps%20019_zpskhiflbkd.jpg)

( This is the 1 I just picked up, just because it has a D stamped rear sight...and  to prove mosinitus hasn't completely taken hold.  rofl

(http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz228/armedhippie/arsenal%20stamps%20and%20different%20stamps/six%20corps%20and%20arsenal%20stamps%20028_zpsehobvock.jpg)

Been following quite intently and if it does turn out to be a 4...I'm definitely joining the "That's a dumb way to make a 4" group.

Having owned a /016\ Public Security for a long time now... I've researched it and 1's like it quite a bit and honestly... I'm still seeing it as a 016 and not 416. I can see how some of the stamps posted look like a 4 instead and how a few most definitely look like a 4.

I'd like to throw a few of my photos in the conversation and see what yall think.

My Public Security...
Gotta show a right side PS stamp  thumb1
(http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz228/armedhippie/arsenal%20stamps%20and%20different%20stamps/six%20corps%20and%20arsenal%20stamps%20033_zpsn7uxfl5m.jpg)

In/out of stock and a few diff angles...
(http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz228/armedhippie/arsenal%20stamps%20and%20different%20stamps/six%20corps%20and%20arsenal%20stamps%20032_zpsrumts5my.jpg)
(http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz228/armedhippie/arsenal%20stamps%20and%20different%20stamps/six%20corps%20and%20arsenal%20stamps%20030_zpsdzzlwi7j.jpg)

(http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz228/armedhippie/arsenal%20stamps%20and%20different%20stamps/six%20corps%20and%20arsenal%20stamps%20037_zpssoe5pzny.jpg)
(http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz228/armedhippie/arsenal%20stamps%20and%20different%20stamps/six%20corps%20and%20arsenal%20stamps%20034_zpskfbuxsqx.jpg)
(http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz228/armedhippie/arsenal%20stamps%20and%20different%20stamps/six%20corps%20and%20arsenal%20stamps%20035_zpsltkzwxbl.jpg)
(http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz228/armedhippie/arsenal%20stamps%20and%20different%20stamps/six%20corps%20and%20arsenal%20stamps%20036_zpsjqu0mn6r.jpg)

I wanted to put these in as an example because as you can see...Strong stamp, no light strike and clean. No tail either but if you look hard enough, maybe a tail could be seen  :-\

Receiver cover scope mounts are a bane to my existence... but this 1 is an interesting piece for the collection.
(http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz228/armedhippie/arsenal%20stamps%20and%20different%20stamps/six%20corps%20and%20arsenal%20stamps%20023_zpsv0nvhowl.jpg)
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Again a nice clean stamp, but depending on angle and light this 1 has a tiny bit of tail. I can see how this can be seen as a 4  but I'm still not sold. If it turns out to be /416\ instead of /016\ so be it. Heck... could be both ( kinda doubt 2 so similar but...) I would love to see 1 of the Kengs certificates but even then it could turn out to be someone's stateside  opinion.

Keep up the healthy debate fellas,                                                                             

Been wondering the same thing myself... Here's mine.

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Nice!  thumb1

I'm firmly in the camp of "That's a stupid way to make a 4, but it sure as heck is a 4!"

Welcome to the boards HH, we're glad to have you here!

Somebody with a KFS imported one needs to just spend the $50 and get the certificate from KFS that will list the actual arsenal number....and mystery solved :)

Quote from: Power Surge on July 20, 2015, 07:49:49 PM
Somebody with a KFS imported one needs to just spend the $50 and get the certificate from KFS that will list the actual arsenal number....and mystery solved :)

Alright... I'm in.  Just placed an order for 016/416 S/N 180383**

Will see what the certificate says and let you know.

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PLEASE UPDATE US WITH WHAT ALL IS ENTAILED ON THE 'CERTIFICATE'!!!

I have been dying for someone to do this. It may answer some questions. When I spoke to them about it, I was told it would come with the arsenal that it was built at, as well as the import date.

The questions about it are.... how will the arsenal be shown? Number form? Or actual name? If it comes back with the name of the arsenal, that is HUGE. If it comes back with the number....well that answers the 016/416 debate.

I have always had the impression talking with KFS, that they have info that we have looked for for many years. I have asked then about exactly what they have, but have never been given an answer :(

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on February 11, 2016, 07:10:21 PM
PLEASE UPDATE US WITH WHAT ALL IS ENTAILED ON THE 'CERTIFICATE'!!!

I do what I can.  Not as much as I'd like it would seem but still moving forward haha.

Quote from: Power Surge on February 11, 2016, 07:27:59 PM
The questions about it are.... how will the arsenal be shown? Number form? Or actual name? If it comes back with the name of the arsenal, that is HUGE. If it comes back with the number....well that answers the 016/416 debate.

Looking at the sample certificate online, it says...

"This certificate acknowledges that the Poly Technologies, Inc. AKS-762 with serial number AB00-000-0000 was manufactured by State Arsenal 123 in Specific City, Specific Province, China.  It was imported by Keng's Firearms Specialty, Inc. in Month of Year, and was sold on Month, Date, Year."

Should be a wealth of info for sure.  If this plays out, I would highly recommend anyone with a Keng's import, regardless of factory, get the info.  The certificate with the rifle is just too cool.

Says they will do it for all Poly Technologies Imported rifles.  Two weeks for delivery.

Quote from: fenceline on February 11, 2016, 07:33:28 PM
I do what I can.  Not as much as I'd like it would seem but still moving forward haha.

Laugh!  Fenceline, you're doing more to advance this than anybody else has!  We're either too cheap (me), or don't have a poly/KFS gun to send in (me also, because I'm cheap!)   If our research is right, this gun will come back with a '73 date. (And a /416\ or possibly 4160 if the /\ actually stands for a zero like some say). 

It'll be a great data point for us!  If we are right this is good validation, if we are wrong, we adapt the theory.  Win both ways!  thumb1

don't know much about these arsenals, however found two articles on Chinese Military Factory Codes ( in Chinese ) you guys might be interested in:

http://www.360doc.com/content/11/0928/21/2716743_151983872.shtml

http://www.360doc.com/content/11/0306/12/596853_98587975.shtml

Quote from: pcke2000 on February 11, 2016, 10:08:40 PM
don't know much about these arsenals, however found two articles on Chinese Military Factory Codes ( in Chinese ) you guys might be interested in:

http://www.360doc.com/content/11/0928/21/2716743_151983872.shtml

http://www.360doc.com/content/11/0306/12/596853_98587975.shtml

Interesting....I think  ???  Can you give us a general gist of what is being described in these lists?  :)

QuoteWe're either too cheap

Cheap  nea1    Broke  thumb1   besides, fity bucks for a printed piece of paper is expensive, thats like 200rds of x39 ammo, a third of a Mosin, lay-a-way on a Henry, a carton of smokes, 5 boxes of 9mm, 19 packages of Oreos, 2 Katy Perry cds and a bottle of lotion...  Priorities, man, priorities  rofl2  chuckles1

It's actually going to cost me $50 USD which is more like $70 Canadian haha. But for me knowing the history of the gun is worth it, plus it will add legit data for the research side of things which for me is just bonus.

I'll probably do the same thing for two Colt ARs I have that are police surplus. Just so much value added for me personally. Not even a resale thing.

Quote from: Phosphorus32 on February 11, 2016, 10:11:07 PM

Quote from: pcke2000 on February 11, 2016, 10:08:40 PM
don't know much about these arsenals, however found two articles on Chinese Military Factory Codes ( in Chinese ) you guys might be interested in:

http://www.360doc.com/content/11/0928/21/2716743_151983872.shtml

http://www.360doc.com/content/11/0306/12/596853_98587975.shtml

Interesting....I think  ???  Can you give us a general gist of what is being described in these lists?  :)

Yeah.. I clicked them links outta curiosity :o  Uuuhhmm, I no habla.. 请说英语   thumb1

Quote from: running-man on February 11, 2016, 09:36:40 PM

Quote from: fenceline on February 11, 2016, 07:33:28 PM
I do what I can.  Not as much as I'd like it would seem but still moving forward haha.

Laugh!  Fenceline, you're doing more to advance this than anybody else has!  We're either too cheap (me), or don't have a poly/KFS gun to send in (me also, because I'm cheap!)   If our research is right, this gun will come back with a '73 date. (And a /416\ or possibly 4160 if the /\ actually stands for a zero like some say). 

It'll be a great data point for us!  If we are right this is good validation, if we are wrong, we adapt the theory.  Win both ways!  thumb1

Quote
"This certificate acknowledges that the Poly Technologies, Inc. AKS-762 with serial number AB00-000-0000 was manufactured by State Arsenal 123 in Specific City, Specific Province, China.  It was imported by Keng's Firearms Specialty, Inc. in Month of Year, and was sold on Month, Date, Year."

Unfortunately... It does not appear to have a 'born on' date.

Quote from: Greasemonkey on February 11, 2016, 11:54:54 PM

Quote from: Phosphorus32 on February 11, 2016, 10:11:07 PM

Quote from: pcke2000 on February 11, 2016, 10:08:40 PM
don't know much about these arsenals, however found two articles on Chinese Military Factory Codes ( in Chinese ) you guys might be interested in:

http://www.360doc.com/content/11/0928/21/2716743_151983872.shtml

http://www.360doc.com/content/11/0306/12/596853_98587975.shtml

Interesting....I think  ???  Can you give us a general gist of what is being described in these lists?  :)

Yeah.. I clicked them links outta curiosity :o  Uuuhhmm, I no habla.. 请说英语   thumb1

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　　101 Factory: Northeast Light Alloy Factory. Jilin City.
101 plant: 012 base astronomical Factory. After the dismount.
102 Factory: Jilin Jihua.
103 Factory: Yubei Machinery Plant, one of Henan SIA Machinery Company (Xinxiang) of four plants.
104 Factory: Shanxi North Fangjin Dong Chemical Co., Ltd (Yangquan)
105 Factory: Tianjin Aviation Electrical Company.
107 Factory: Chongqing Dajiang Industry (Group) Co., Ltd.: from Jiangjin, Qijiang, Wansheng, Nanchuan composed of nine plant relocation.
108 plant: 011 bases.
110 plant: 011 somewhere.
111 Factory: Shin Kong Machinery Plant, said outside Shenyang Aerospace Xinguang Group. Engine production. One 156. From its establishment in 1964 when was placed under the Ministry of Machinery Industry seventh.
112 Factory: Shenyang Aircraft Corporation. One 156.
112 Factory: Southwest Aluminum (Group) Co., Ltd. Chongqing.
113 Factory: Xi'an Aero Engine Control Engineering Co., Ltd. / Xi'an Far East Machinery Manufacturing Company. One 156.
114 Factory: Qing'an Group. One 156. Xi'an.
115 Factory: Shaanxi Qinling Aero Electric Company. One 156. Xingping.
116 Factory: Plain Machine Factory, one of Henan SIA Machinery Company (Xinxiang) of four plants.
117 Factory: Shenyang Xinghua Electric Manufacturing Company.
118 Factory: Shanghai Airlines electrical plant, is Shanghai Aviation Industrial Group.
119 Factory: Xinle Machinery Factory: Shenyang. Was placed under the Ministry of Aviation was established in 1964 when the Ministry of Machinery Industry seventh.
120 Factory: Harbin Dongan Engine Group. One 156.
121 Factory: Heilongjiang North Special Equipment Co., Ltd. (Mudanjiang) formerly Northern Tool Factory.
122 Factory: Harbin Aircraft Industry Group. One 156.
123 Factory: Heilongjiang Huaan Machinery Co., Ltd. (Qiqihar)
124 Factory: Zhengzhou new guard aircraft equipment company. Original in Henan Lingbao Yin Township.
125 Factory: Beijing Shuguang Motor Factory.
126 Factory: Xin Machinery Plant, Guizhou Anshun.
126 Factory: Henan Qinghua Machinery Factory (Xuchang)
127 Factory: Qiqihar Northern Machine Co., Ltd: artillery base. Former machine factory Qiqihar peace.
128 Factory: Guiyang Huayang Aviation Electrical Appliance Co., aviation lighting distribution equipment factory, mainly produces automotive switches and micro-switches. By the Shanghai Airlines electrical plant turnkey.
130 Factory: Ma Yun aircraft factory in Guizhou Anshun.
132 Factory: Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group.
133 Factory: Changchun aviation equipment company.
134 Factory: Yuxin Machinery Factory, one of Henan SIA Machinery Company (Xinxiang) of four plants.
135 Factory: Miles Electrical and Mechanical Plant: Lanzhou.
136 plant: 012 base turret and refueling equipment factory, Shaanxi Chenggu Zhaojiagou, turnkey Qing'an company, after dismount.
137 Factory: Yanxing Hebei Machinery Co. (Zhangjiakou)
138 plant: 012 Base non-standard equipment plant, after dismount.
139 Factory: The New Machinery Factory, Shenyang. Was placed under the Ministry of Aviation was established in 1964 when the Ministry of Machinery Industry seventh.
141 Factory: Shaanxi Yan Aviation Instrument Company.
143 Factory: Guizhou Honglin aviation hydraulic parts factory.
144 Factory: wind and thunder Ordnance Factory, Guizhou Anshun.
144 plant: 012 base switch valve plant, is not built.
145 Factory: Shanxi Jinan Chemical Plant (Taiyuan)
146 plant: 012 base wheel brakes annex plant is not built.
147 Factory: Sungai Chongqing Machinery Plant (formerly in Qijiang): Oe plant genus.
148 Factory: Hong Yuan Aviation casting industry company. Sanyuan.
149 Factory: Shanghai Aerospace Equipment Manufacturing Factory, is aerospace eight homes.
150 plants: Longyan aircraft factory in Guizhou Anshun.
151 plant: 012 Factory electromagnetic base, the proposed store in Nanzheng flagpole after dismount.
152 Factory: Jiangling Machinery Factory (Chongqing): incorporated Chongqing Changan factory.
153 Factory: Tongchuan Canton Township, is Tongchuan Mining Bureau, the state designated civilian explosion-proof equipment production plant.
153 plant: 012 base engine fuel accessories factory, to be built in Mian County of Hanzhong City, after dismount.
154 Factory: Yonghong Machinery Plant, Guiyang.
155 Factory: Jinzhou Hua Shiying Glass (Group) Co., Ltd., China's largest production base of quartz glass.
156 Factory: China Yaohua Glass Group Corporation, Qinhuangdao.
157 Factory: Chengdu Southwest Glass - Glass Co., Ltd. Chengdu Jufeng. It covers an area of ​​135 acres and currently employs 600 people. National military aviation and bullet-proof glass sentinel plants, riot and other special glass earliest professional manufacturers. Original in Mianzhu, now moved to Chengdu (Box 843).
157 Factory: Jin Lin Machinery Factory - Chengdu Jin Lin Industrial Manufacturing Co., Ltd., the original Chongqing Wansheng, production cannon. In 2003 he moved to Pengzhou.
158 Factory: South Peak Luoyang Aviation Precision Machinery Company / Luoyang aviation electronics factory.
159 Factory: Aerospace belongs to Hospitals. Cruise missile development and production assembly plant.
160 Factory: Guizhou Aviation.
161 Factory: Chengdu Aviation Instrument Company.
162 Factory: Shuangyang aircraft factory
164 Factory: Anhui-machine factory.
165 Factory: Guilin Aviation Electric Company, now part of China Aerospace Times Electronics Instruments.
166 Factory: Guizhou Aviation.
167 Factory: Chengdu Lingchuan Mechanical Plant.
170 Factory: Guizhou Aviation Xinyi Machinery Factory.
171 Factory: Suzhou Changfeng Machinery Co., Ltd.
172 Factory: Xi'an Aircraft Industrial Corporation.
173 Factory: Qin Feng, Shaanxi aviation hydraulic company Hanzhong City Xixiang.
174 Factory: Sichuan Airlines Hydraulic Machinery: the original in Ya'an, after moved to Guanghan.
175 Factory: Suzhou Instrument Factory in 1963 from the local acceptance as Shanghai Airlines electrical plant products factory copy, specializes in the production of aviation lighting. 1966 with measuring and cutting tools factory in Suzhou merged state-owned Changfeng Machinery Plant.
176 Factory: Ship.
177 Factory: Chang-Lin Machinery Factory, Jiangxi Tonggu original 1994 relocation Xinyu.
178 plant: 012 base bolt factory, after dismount.
181 Factory: Factory Wuhan - Wuhan Aviation Instrument Co., Ltd.
182 Factory: Shaanxi Aircraft Factory: Chenggu County Hanzhong City. 1979, Tong Hui Machinery Factory, Jinsong Machinery Factory and 012 aircraft separation set up a separate design.
183 Factory: Guiyang Feng Yang hydraulic companies.
185 Factory: Guiyang Aviation Electric Motor Co., Ltd.
186 plant: 012 base after dismount.
187 Factory: Shanxi Guancenshan.
188 Factory: Guizhou Huafeng Electric Co.
197 Factory: Hebei Taihang Machinery Industry Co., Ltd. (Shijiazhuang)
202 Factory: Baotou, Baotou namely Guanghua Chemical Industry Co., China's first nuclear fuel production base.
202 Factory: South Peak Machinery Factory, namely South Peak Luoyang Aviation Precision Machinery Company, AAM assembly plant, originally part of the base 012, after moved to Luoyang. 5000 people.
204 Factory: Chengdu, Sichuan electrical equipment plant, formerly in Sichuan Aikawa, after moved to Longquanyi.
205 Factory: Global China Aviation Instrument Electrical Factory: Ya'an, Sichuan.
206 Factory: Jiangxi Evergreen Machinery Co., Ltd., Yichun City, the local military.
208 Factory: Chengdu Guangming Optoelectronic Information Materials Co., Ltd: China's largest production base of optical materials.
211 Factory: Capital Aviation Machinery Company (Capital Machinery Plant), is a Space Academy. One of 156 projects.
212 Factory: Pou General Electric Company: Baoji. One 156.
213 Factory:
215 Factory: Four Chuan Chuanan chemical plants, in the original Jiang, after relocating to the city of Dujiangyan.
216 Factory: Sichuan Huaqing Machinery Co., Ltd. (South Stream): The original Sichuan Changqing machine factory. Original in South Stream, civilian moved to Pengzhou.
218 Factory: Beijing North China Optical Instrument Co., Ltd.
221 Factory: Taiyuan Aviation Instrument Company.
221 Factory: Haiyan Golden Sand (obsolete), the first nuclear weapons research bases in China, Northwest Nuclear Weapons Research and Design Institute (Ninth Academy), originally set up in Beijing, 1958 in Qinghai building, built in 1962, 1964 The successful development of the first atomic bomb. Its nuclear weapons still located in the west of Beijing Research Institute, proving ground in northwest Beijing Huairou County garden town. 1968 moved to Mianyang Southwestern Institute of Physics.
226 Factory: Sichuan Jian Industry Co., Ltd., the original in Ya'an, after moved to Pi.
228 Factory: Jilin Light Group Ltd. (Changchun): Optical Instrument Factory original Northeast.
231 Factory: Factory 012 base diaphragm. After the dismount.
232 Factory: Beijing Qingyun Aviation Instrument Company.
234 Factory: Modern Chemical Industry Co., Ltd. Shandong North (Jinan): The original Shandong chemical plant.
236 Factory: Chongqing Changfeng Machinery Co., Ltd. (Jiangjin)
238 Factory: Hubei Huazhong Precision Instrument (Yidu)
239 Factory: Beijing Navistar machine manufacturing company, which belongs to Aerospace Hospitals.
241 Factory: the Yangtze River Instrument: original in Ya'an, Sichuan, after moved to Guanghan.
242 Factory: Lanzhou Flight Control Instrument Factory. One 156.
245 Factory: One 156: Northern Xing'an Chemical Industry Co., Ltd., Shanxi (Taiyuan).
246 Factory: Chongqing Qingshan Industrial Co., Ltd (Bishan)
247 Factory: The original northern Shanxi Shanxi Machine Tool Plant Machinery Manufacturing Co., Ltd. (Taiyuan),: one 156. Production artillery.
248 Factory: Optical Co., Ltd. Xi'an North: one 156.
251 plant: 012 base oxygen plant, after the dismount.
252 plant: 012 base fighter autopilot plant, Shaanxi Nanzheng after dismount.
255 Factory: Luzhou North Chemical Industry Co., Ltd. (Sichuan Luzhou): The original Luzhou Chemical Plant.
256 Factory: Chongqing Iron Horse Industrial Group Limited. Production of tanks and armored vehicles.
257 Factory: Chongqing Hirayama Machinery Plant (formerly in Wansheng): Oe plant genus.
258 Factory: Plain photoelectric Limited (Jiaozuo)
268 Factory: Sichuan Jin Douguang Electric Instrument (Huaying Guanyin River, later moved to the new capital), original gold Instrument.
272 Factory: Hengyang Xinhua Chemical Metallurgy Group Ltd., Hengyang City, later moved to Hainan Lingshui.
281 plant: 011 Base-air missile autopilot plant, Shaanxi Nanzheng after dismount.
282 Factory: Jiangnan Machinery (Group) Co., Ltd. (Xiangtan)
284 Factory: Beijing Changfeng mechanical power plant, is aerospace hospital.
288 Factory: Hubei Yangtze Optical Instrument Factory (Yidu, later moved to Wuhan Huangpi)
289 Factory: Bashan Instrument Factory (now Aerospace Times Electronics Instruments)
295 Factory: Hubei Huazhong Pharmaceutical Co., Ltd. (Xiangfan)
296 Factory: Construction Industry (Group) Co., Ltd. (Chongqing)
298 Factory: Yunnan North Optical Instrument Co., Ltd. (Kunming)
300 Factory: SOUTH transmission Machinery Plant (Wangcheng)
301 plant: 012 level meter base tachometer with factory after dismount.
304 Factory: Shanxi North Fang Huifeng Electromechanical Co., Ltd. (Changzhi)
305: Changhong Machine Factory (build Deyang, Mianyang moved to 1958), 156 projects. China's only airborne fire control radar base. Second Ministry of Machine origin, after four planes placed under the Ministry. 1972 black and white TV conversion success. In 1976 he developed the first color TV.
307 Factory: Chenguang Machinery Factory: said outside Nanjing Chenguang Group Co., Ltd. Jinling Machine Factory. It was placed under the Ministry of weapons from 1964 when the Ministry of Machinery Industry seventh.
308 Factory: Chongqing Huaguang Instrument (Huaying Tianchi, later moved to Beibei)
311 plant: 012 scale base oil plant, after dismount.
314 Factory: Hebei Huafeng Machinery Factory (**)
315 Factory: Guizhou Tianyi Electrical Co., Ltd., Zunyi.
318 Factory: Beijing Great Wall north Photoelectric Instrument Co., Ltd.: night vision.
320 Factory: Nanchang Aviation Industry Group (320 plant and 512 plants combined). One 156.
322 Factory: ambitious aircraft factory: Jingmen, production parachute and airborne equipment.
323 Factory: Jilin Baiyun Machinery Factory (Toho)
331 Factory: China Southern Airlines Power Machinery Company Hunan Zhuzhou one, 156.
333 Factory: Hebei Lingyun Industrial Group Co., Ltd. (Laiyuan - after removal)
338 Factory: Optical Instrument Factory Chongqing Ming-kai (Huaying, later moved to Chongqing)
340 plant: 012 base small module gear factory, after dismount.
341 plant: 012 base foundry, after dismount.
342 Factory: Shanxi Huaihai Electrical Co., Ltd. (Changzhi)
343 Factory: Hunan Hongyuan Machinery Factory (Lianyuan, later moved to Yueyang)
345 plant: 012 base lamps Insurance silk factory, after dismount.
348 Factory: southwest Sichuan optical Industrial (Group) Co., Ltd. (Huaying, later moved to Pi), the original red Instrument.
349 Factory: Fenghua Machinery Factory: said outside Harbin Fenghua Aerospace Science and Technology Company. Established in 1964 the Ministry of Machinery Industry seventh separated from the Ordnance Department set up 423 plants (Songjiang Machinery Plant).
351 Factory: JAC Aviation Instrument Factory, Hefei.
354 Factory: Sichuan Jianghua Machine Factory (Huaying Qinghua - Longquanyi)
355 Factory: Guiyang Wanjiang Aviation Electromechanical Co., Ltd.
356 Factory: Yunnan Xiyi Industry Co., Ltd. (Kunming)
358 Factory: China Henan Photoelectric Instrument Factory (Xinyang)
368 Factory: Han Kuang Machinery Plant (Handan)
370 Factory: Le River machinery factory in Jiangxi in 1985 moved to Changzhou, renamed Lan Xiang, Changzhou Machinery Plant (Changzhou aviation engine factory), the major manufacturing helicopters and motorcycle engines. 3,000 employees.
370 Factory: Fen supremely Machinery Factory, 012 base blade factory. After the dismount.
371 plant: 012 base elastic sensing element factory. After the dismount.
372 Factory: Changhe Aircraft Industries Corporation: Jingdezhen.
374 Factory: Shanxi Jianghuai Machinery Plant (Jincheng).
375 Factory: Liaoning Qingyang Chemical Co., Ltd. (Liaoyang), China's largest fire bomb # drug production base.
376 Plant: Pioneer Machinery Plant Baoding.
378 Factory: Henan Sichuan Optoelectronics Optical Instrument Factory (the town square, later moved to Nanyang)
380 Factory: Qing Yuning Machinery Factory, 012 base blade factory. After the dismount.
381 plant: 012 Base-air missile with a seeker and fuse factory, Shaanxi Nanzheng after dismount.
382 Factory: Changzhou Aircraft Manufacturing Company: Changzhou Box 16, covers an area of ​​1.1 million square meters, was established in 1970, mainly produces pressure vessels and helicopters. 1,500 employees.
383 Factory: Chongqing Yimin Machinery Plant (Rongchang).
383 Factory: long Machinery Plant, Duyun.
388 Factory: SOUTH Optical Instrument Factory (Hubei Yidu).
390 Factory: Jiao Jiangshan Machinery Plant, the small base of 012 parts factory. After the dismount.
393 Factory: mountains of Sichuan Machinery Plant, the original in Longchang, after relocating to the city of Dujiangyan.
394 Factory: Beijing North Machine Industry Co., Ltd. (Tongzhou): The original Beijing Machinery Factory.
395 plant: 012 base after dismount.
403 Factory: Yichang Marine Diesel Engine Plant.
404 Factory: Jiuquan: China's largest nuclear energy production joint ventures, an area of ​​1260 square kilometers.
404 Factory: wind and thunder machinery plant, river gorge marine diesel engine plant (Hubei Zhijiang).
405 Factory: Hanzhong: China's first use of advanced technology to produce nuclear fuel for commercial plants.
405 Factory: Chongqing Weichai engine plant (CASE), the original diesel engine plant in Sichuan / forward Machinery Plant.
406 Factory: Hongwei Machinery Factory, Chongqing Wulong Baimashan.
407 Factory: Henan Diesel Engine Group Co., Ltd. (Luoyang), one of 156.
408 Factory: Shaanxi Diesel Engine Factory (Xingping), one of 156.
410 Factory: Shenyang Liming Engine Manufacturing Company. One 156.
416 Factory: Yongchuan.
420 Factory: Chengdu Engine Group.
423 Factory: Harbin Songjiang Machinery Factory.
424 Factory: Hudong-Zhonghua Shipbuilding Group (Shanghai).
425 Factory: Wuhu Shipyard.
426 Factory: Dalian Shipyard Limited.
427 Factory: Guangzhou Huangpu Shipyard (Guangzhou Huangpu Cheung Chau)
428 Factory: Dalian Marine Diesel Engine Factory.
429 Factory: Chongqing Shipyard (moon Da)
430 Factory: Xi'an Aero Engine Group.
431 Factory: reportedly also one of 156 Bohai Shipbuilding Heavy Industry Co., Ltd. (Huludao).
432 Factory: Chuan Dong Shipyard (Fuling)
433 Factory: Guangzhou Shipyard International Co., Ltd., the Guangzhou Shipyard.
434 Factory: Xijiang Shipyard (Liuzhou)
435 Factory: Jiujiang shipyard.
436 Factory: Jiangnan Shipbuilding Group (Shanghai)
437 Factory: Shanghai (Innovation Shipyard)
438 Factory: Wuchang Shipyard
439 Factory:
440 Factory:
441 Factory: Jiujiang Instrument Factory
445 Factory: Hangzhou
446 Factory: Hubei Hua Zhou, Ltd. (Chibi)
447 Factory: Inner Mongolia North Heavy Industries Group Co., Ltd. (Baotou): One of 156. The second original machinery factory in Inner Mongolia.
449 Factory: Guangxi Guijiang shipyard (Wuzhou)
451 Factory: China Jialing Group (Chongqing)
452 Factory: Chongqing Machinery Factory Nampo (five bridges)
453 Factory: Chongqing Three Gorges Diesel Engine Factory ()
454 Factory: Chongqing Jiangling Instrument Factory (five bridges)
455 Factory: Chongqing Changping Machinery Plant (five bridges)
456 Factory: Changan Automobile (Group) Limited Liability Company (Chongqing)
457 Factory: Chongqing, China Chongqing Electric Instrument Factory, the former Jiangling Instrument Factory ()
458 Factory: Jiangxi Xunyang Electronic Instrument Factory (Dean)
459 Factory: Jiangxi Navigation Instrument Factory (Ruichang)
460 Factory: Liyang Aero Engine Manufacturing Company (Guizhou)
461 Factory: Wuhan Marine Machinery Co., Ltd.
462 Factory: Chongqing hydraulic Factory (Yongchuan), former Yonghong Machinery Plant.
465 Factory: Chongqing Hongjiang Machinery Plant (Yongchuan), former Sichuan pump nozzle adjustment pacer plant.
466 Factory: Chongqing Yuejin Machinery Plant (Yongchuan), Chongqing former Marine Diesel Engine Parts Factory.
467 Factory: Chongqing Jiangjin Turbocharger Plant (CASE), the former emerging Machinery Plant.
468 Factory: Chongqing Gearbox Co., Ltd. (CASE), the original Yongjin Machinery Plant.
469 Factory: Chongqing Hongyang Machinery Factory (CASE)
470 Factory: Jin Dongfeng Machinery Factory, 012 base aircraft engine assembly plant (engine parts plant includes 370,370,390,480,490 plant, consisting of a total of six engine factory production line, built by the Chengdu 420 factory package, all at the original site Mian County of Hanzhong City). After the dismount.
471 Factory: Wuhan Heavy Industry Casting and Forging Co., Ltd.
47l Factory: Red Star Machinery Plant, Lanzhou nuclear equipment manufacturer.
474 Factory: Liaoning Huafeng Chemical Group Co., Ltd. (Fushun)
475 Factory: Liaoning east chemical plant (Lingyuan Yangjiazhangzi)
476 Factory: Nanjing marine auxiliary plant.
479 Factory: Chongqing Heavy Casting and Forging Plant.
480 Factory: Pentium anxious Machinery Factory, 012 base large processing plants. After the dismount.
481 factory: Zibo battery factory.
482 Factory: Baoding Sailing Group Co., Ltd., one is said to 156. Batteries.
486 Factory: Chongqing Hengshan Machinery Plant (Xiong)
489 Factory: Chongqing Qingping Machinery Factory (sorghum)
490 Factory: shock five states Machinery Plant, 012 base stamping and welding plant. After the dismount.
491 Factory: Marine Machinery Plant Jiujiang.
497 Factory: Wangjiang Machine Manufacturing Plant (Chongqing)
518 Factory: Liaoning Dandong City, the internal combustion engine
781 Factory: Gansu Changfeng Machinery Plant (Lanzhou), washing machine, color TV, refrigerator.
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　　13 Xiaozhai West Road Xi'an People's Liberation Army 1001 Factory Chinese People's Liberation 1002 military aerial survey instrument measuring instrument factory in Nanjing new models road No. 36 People's Liberation Army 1026 printing plant in Langfang City Light Mingxi Road 119 People's Liberation Army 1101 Army machine-building factory in Nanjing Jiefang people's Liberation Army 1102 factory Electricity profiles Shenyang City, Liaoning Province, people's Liberation Army 1103 factory clothing Changsha City Xinkaipu No. 36 people's Liberation Army 1104 factory Shanghai Chinese people unknown PLA 1201 military plant print garden Road, Haidian District, Beijing on the 13th Chinese People's Liberation Army 1202 factory Chinese People's Liberation printing Beijing Bao Chao Hutong 1205 military plant print Haidian District, Beijing No. 69 North Third Ring Road, the People's Liberation Army 1206 printing plant Langfang City, Hebei People's Liberation Army 2207 factory printing Baiwanzhuang 8th Avenue Beijing People's Liberation Army 2601 film machinery factory Quyang Road, Shanghai No. 910 People's Liberation Army 2602 factory semiconductor Beijing People's Liberation Army section 2672 military factory Xinxing Ductile Iron Pipes, Handan City, Hebei Province Fuxing District petrochemical 4th Street People's Liberation Army 2703 factory Chang'an Road, Jiamusi City, Heilongjiang Province, shipbuilding 36 People's Liberation Army 3301 factory unknown Shenyang City, Liaoning Province, People's Liberation Army 3302 military factory machining Shijiazhuang construction South street, 3303 140 People's Liberation Army Ordnance factory Hanyang Wuhan City, Hubei People's Liberation Army 3304 factory Nanjing, Jiangsu Province People's Liberation Army 3305 Army telescope pipe factory Dunhua City, Jilin Province victory south 3320 16th street People's Liberation Army factory in Shijiazhuang, Hebei unknown 3326 People's Liberation Army military machinery factory in Guizhou Guiding County disc Town People's Liberation Army 3327 factory aviation security Xi'an in Shaanxi Provincial People's Liberation Army 3401 Taiping Street, Xuanwu District, Beijing spinning factory No.8 People's Liberation Army 3402 vehicle factory in Xi'an Lianhu District 3403 People's Liberation Army west of Jujube Orchard vehicle manufacturing factory Dobashi Wangjiaba Jiulongpo District of Chongqing People's Liberation Army No. 100 3404 military factories salt bridge vehicle maintenance Road Xi'an, Shaanxi Province, all the way west 113 People's Liberation Army 3405 factory aerospace Science and Technology Golmud City in Qinghai on the 16th Chinese People's Liberation Army 3419 factory dryer Xining in Qinghai Qaidam Road 93 People's Liberation Army 3425 factory rubber unknown People's Liberation Army 3501 clothing factory Beijing Chaoyang District People's Liberation Army 3502 factory clothing Shijiazhuang Xinhua Road No. 124 People's Liberation Army 3503 factory Nanjing, Jiangsu Province clothing Gulou District People's Liberation Army No. 279 Zhongshan North Road, 3504 military clothing factory in Changchun City, Jilin Province People's Liberation Army 3505 factory clothing Dadong District, Shenyang, Liaoning Province Xiaoshizi Street, 3506 160 People's Liberation Army clothing factory in Wuhan, Hubei City Jiefang Avenue, 3507 586 People's liberation Army clothing factory in the western suburbs of Xi'an, Kunming Road, People's liberation Army 3508 garment factories Chengdu Temple Street No. 123 People's liberation Army 3509 factory clothing Hanchuan Ma textile Road Town on the 16th Chinese People's Liberation Army 3510 factory knitted products in Hubei Province Road No. 75 Hashiguchi Qiaokou Wuhan People's Liberation Army 3511 factory Road 2, towels, Xi'an, Kunming People's Liberation Army 3512 factory Furskin 367 salt Road, Lanzhou City, Gansu Province leather factory Chinese People's Liberation Army shoes 3513 Hanguang Road, Xi'an, Shaanxi People's Liberation Army 3514 shoe factory in Hebei Luquan Shangwang Village People's Liberation Army 3515 shoe factory in Henan Province Luohe City people's Road No. 197 people's Liberation Army 3516 shoe factory in Shanghai people's Liberation Army 3517 factory raincoat shoes Yueyang Tower district of Yueyang City people's Liberation Army 3518 Army tank scissors factory in Guangzhou City, Guangdong Province, people's Liberation Army property section 3519 military factory shoes Danyang City, Jiangsu Province, Ling Town People's Liberation Army 3520 shoe factory in Shandong Province, 510 Jingshi Road, Jinan, People's Liberation Army 3521 military leather factory in Nanjing, Jiangsu Province, a large optical path of the PLA 3522 military factories manufacturing three Wei Lu Nankai District 49 People's Liberation Army 3523 factory-built four West Shenyang City, Liaoning Province, Tiexi District, 3524 North 5th People's Liberation Army equipment factory Qinhuangdao City of Hebei Qinhuangdao City, Hebei Province harbor area in 3526 the People's Liberation Army military modulating drugs factory Hebei District, Tianjin Fisheries 3528 Front Street on the 28th Chinese People's Liberation Army first synthetic rubber plant in Datong City, Shanxi Province People's Liberation Army 3529 factory medical equipment Zhongshan Road Tianjin, Hebei District 7 People's Liberation Army No. 3530 textile factory in Xianyang Weicheng District People's Liberation Army 3531 factory Wenxi County, Shanxi Province raincoat shoes Qiu Village People's Liberation Army 3532 garment factory Langfang City, Hebei Province People's Liberation Army No. 64 outside the South section 3533 military clothing factory Dadukou District of Chongqing People's Liberation Army 3534 factory batt products Shanxi Wenxi Dong / Taiyuan People's Liberation Army 3535 factory Road red sand clothing Guiyang People's Liberation Army 3536 factory clothing 39-1 Mianyang City Jinxing Road 62 People's Liberation Army 3537 factory No.1 Huaxi Qingxi Road, Guiyang, Guizhou Province People's Liberation Army Jiefang Xie 3538 shoe factory in Shaanxi Province, Xi'an Beilin grassy slopes of the PLA 3539 factory system 140 shoes Jiangjin City people's Liberation Army 3540 factory Qinhuangdao City, Hebei people's Liberation Army clothing 3541 clothing factory in Shiyan, Hubei Danjiangkou City people's Liberation Army No. 3542 factory cotton Road Xiangfan City, Hubei Province people's Liberation Army 3543 factory clothing / Ji Jin Jiang Xian Development Zone Zhuozhou Fan Yang Road 129 Feiquan village of PLA 3544 shoe factory in Qinhuangdao City, Hebei Province, 476 East Road, Hong Kong's Liberation Army No. 3545 factory Xiangfan City, Hing printing and dyeing 6 / Wuhan new rural village of PLA 3546 Xintian town shoe factory in Shaanxi Province, Xi'an Beilin grassy slopes (3538 plant closing) of the PLA 3547 factory in Shenyang City, Liaoning Province Dadong helmet intended to take the People's Liberation Army Street 47 3602 container manufacturing factory in Danjiangkou City of Hubei Province People's Liberation Army 3603 factory Fuel Tankers Beijing Fengtai Village Lane one-fifth of the PLA military equipment factory 3604 Wuhan No. 667 Jiefang shells manufacture of PLA 3606 factory Jiang County, Shanxi cold Township / Linfen Houma City People's Liberation Army 3607 factory Danjiangkou City of Hubei Province machinery manufacturing town on behalf of the Long Bay's Liberation Army No. 3609 factory tube Hefei People's Liberation Army 3610 factory machinery manufacturing Guiding County, Guizhou Province China The first people's Liberation Army No. 3611 factory auto parts 168 West Renmin Road, Fancheng Xiangfan City people's Liberation Army 3614 factory machinery Hunan Changsha Mayor Wang Sa's Liberation Army No. 3615 factory Xinxiang Quantang auto parts factory in Tianjin people's Liberation Army 4003 food Qinhuangdao City harbor area of ​​the PLA 4210 printing plant Langfang City dawn Road 22 unknown Shanghai People's Liberation Army 4231 factory Road, Qingdao, Shandong Buddha Tao Road 1 printing factory of PLA 4236 Tianjin Tanggu District No. 102 People's Liberation Army 4305 factory Shanghai People's Liberation Army 4306 factory unknown machinery manufacturing plant in Shanghai People's Liberation Army Navy to protect its 4307th Guangzhou City, Guangdong Province Huangpu Changzhou Township People's Liberation Army 4308 factory Road, Qingdao, Inner Mongolia torpedo manufacture 28 People's Liberation Army No. 4309 factory ship machinery Lüshunkou Changjiang Road Dalian, Liaoning Province, People's Liberation Army 4325th 156 factory equipment Guizhou Kaili Region of PLA 4328 factory machinery manufacturing in Changzhi City, Shanxi Province People's Liberation Army 4331 factory Zengcheng city, Guangdong Province, machinery manufacturing of PLA 4332 factory machinery repair Ningbo Beilun Long after Chaiqiao PLA, 4723 aircraft repair plant in Handan city Yongnian County, Hebei Province People's Liberation Army 4724 factory machinery Shanghai Zhabei District, Shanghai market Road 3127 People's Liberation Army Navy 4801 factory equipment Guangzhou Huangpu Changzhou Township People's Liberation Army Navy 4802 factory equipment in Sanya City, Hainan Province, People's Liberation Army naval equipment factory 4803 Guangdong Chaoyang City People's Liberation Army Navy 4804 factory equipment Zhanjiang City, Guangdong Province manufacturing Fu'an in Fujian Province in the promenade on the 26th ship of the PLA 4805 factory Xiangshan County, West 周镇莲 flower textile factory of PLA 4806 Zhejiang Zhoushan City Dinghai District No. 99 West along the Port of PLA 4807 factory ship People's Liberation Army at White Rock City factory ship built in 4808 in Qingdao City, Shandong Province, Heze 3 Road, No. 5 People's Liberation Army factory ship built in 4809 Beach Road, Weihai City, Shandong Province, People's Liberation Army 4810 factory No.1 Dalian shipbuilding mine Road City Lüshunkou 58 Harbour Street, the former shipbuilding factory of PLA 4811 4808 4812 factory of the PLA marine auxiliary plant Anqing Linghu Road motor 40 of the PLA 4813 factory in Xuzhou City, Jiangsu Province 41 No. 4819 of PLA Navy equipment factory in Zhejiang Xiangshan City People's Liberation Army 4820 factory door Motor Yichang City, Hubei Province Xiao Ting 4821 Avenue of the PLA ship repair factory Wafangdian City, Liaoning Province, People's Liberation Army 5311 factory Nanjing Machinery manufacturing City Yudao standard of PLA camp 4 5701 textile machinery factory Chengdu Wuhou cluster of PLA 5702 Town aviation repair plant in Shaanxi Wugong County hamlet of PLA 5703 aviation repair plant in Shanghai China PLA 5704 first aircraft factory Jilin Changyi District double Kyrgyzstan 5705 20th Street PLA, medical equipment factory Shenyang Tiexi District, Shenyang Liaodong Road No.3 People's Liberation Army 5706 aviation repair plant Ganjingzi 182 Friendship Street People's Liberation Army No. 5707 aviation manufacturing plant in Zunyi City, Guizhou Province People's Liberation Army Air Force Armament factory 5708 in Guiyang, Guizhou Province People's Liberation Army 5710 factory aircraft repair plant Dangyang People's Liberation Army Air 5711 Jing Liuhe County, Jilin Street aircraft repair factory of PLA 5712 Tianxin District Muyun Mission Hill 5713 People's Liberation Army aircraft manufacturing plant in Xiangfan City, Hubei Province Valley County town of Mainz Ishii's Liberation Army No. 5714 Okimura aircraft repair plant in Wuhan, Hubei City building 417 Avenue of the PLA Air missile factory 5715 Luoyang City, Henan Province People's Liberation Army 5716 factory electrical screen 5717 Jincheng City, Shanxi People's Liberation Army Air Force equipment factory in Chengdu, Sichuan People's Liberation Army 5718 factory Air Guangxi Zhuang autonomous Region, Guilin No. 56 People's Liberation Army 5719 high voltage switch factory Pengzhou City, Sichuan Province town Ponceau 5720 Qinghe village People's Liberation Army aircraft repair factory in Wuhu, Anhui People's Liberation Army factory machinery 5721 Luquan in Hebei Province People's Liberation Army section 5722 military factories therapy device Tianshui City, Gansu Province People's Liberation Army 5723 aircraft repair factory in Wuhu City, Anhui
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Holy crap!

Tough to read.  Would be good to scale it down into some sort of easy reference sheet.

Just got an update email saying my order has been shipped. I guess that means they found my rifle on file and there is actually something to report on the certificate haha. Now to wait for international shipping to do its part.

Quote from: fenceline on February 12, 2016, 11:45:00 AM
Just got an update email saying my order has been shipped. I guess that means they found my rifle on file and there is actually something to report on the certificate haha. Now to wait for international shipping to do its part.

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Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on February 12, 2016, 12:36:33 AM

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　　101 Factory: Northeast Light Alloy Factory. Jilin City.
101 plant: 012 base astronomical Factory. After the dismount.
102 Factory: Jilin Jihua.
103 Factory: Yubei Machinery Plant, one of Henan SIA Machinery Company (Xinxiang) of four plants.
104 Factory: Shanxi North Fangjin Dong Chemical Co., Ltd (Yangquan)
105 Factory: Tianjin Aviation Electrical Company.
107 Factory: Chongqing Dajiang Industry (Group) Co., Ltd.: from Jiangjin, Qijiang, Wansheng, Nanchuan composed of nine plant relocation.
108 plant: 011 bases.
110 plant: 011 somewhere.
111 Factory: Shin Kong Machinery Plant, said outside Shenyang Aerospace Xinguang Group. Engine production. One 156. From its establishment in 1964 when was placed under the Ministry of Machinery Industry seventh.
112 Factory: Shenyang Aircraft Corporation. One 156.
112 Factory: Southwest Aluminum (Group) Co., Ltd. Chongqing.
113 Factory: Xi'an Aero Engine Control Engineering Co., Ltd. / Xi'an Far East Machinery Manufacturing Company. One 156.
114 Factory: Qing'an Group. One 156. Xi'an.
115 Factory: Shaanxi Qinling Aero Electric Company. One 156. Xingping.
116 Factory: Plain Machine Factory, one of Henan SIA Machinery Company (Xinxiang) of four plants.
117 Factory: Shenyang Xinghua Electric Manufacturing Company.
118 Factory: Shanghai Airlines electrical plant, is Shanghai Aviation Industrial Group.
119 Factory: Xinle Machinery Factory: Shenyang. Was placed under the Ministry of Aviation was established in 1964 when the Ministry of Machinery Industry seventh.
120 Factory: Harbin Dongan Engine Group. One 156.
121 Factory: Heilongjiang North Special Equipment Co., Ltd. (Mudanjiang) formerly Northern Tool Factory.
122 Factory: Harbin Aircraft Industry Group. One 156.
123 Factory: Heilongjiang Huaan Machinery Co., Ltd. (Qiqihar)
124 Factory: Zhengzhou new guard aircraft equipment company. Original in Henan Lingbao Yin Township.
125 Factory: Beijing Shuguang Motor Factory.
126 Factory: Xin Machinery Plant, Guizhou Anshun.
126 Factory: Henan Qinghua Machinery Factory (Xuchang)
127 Factory: Qiqihar Northern Machine Co., Ltd: artillery base. Former machine factory Qiqihar peace.
128 Factory: Guiyang Huayang Aviation Electrical Appliance Co., aviation lighting distribution equipment factory, mainly produces automotive switches and micro-switches. By the Shanghai Airlines electrical plant turnkey.
130 Factory: Ma Yun aircraft factory in Guizhou Anshun.
132 Factory: Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group.
133 Factory: Changchun aviation equipment company.
134 Factory: Yuxin Machinery Factory, one of Henan SIA Machinery Company (Xinxiang) of four plants.
135 Factory: Miles Electrical and Mechanical Plant: Lanzhou.
136 plant: 012 base turret and refueling equipment factory, Shaanxi Chenggu Zhaojiagou, turnkey Qing'an company, after dismount.
137 Factory: Yanxing Hebei Machinery Co. (Zhangjiakou)
138 plant: 012 Base non-standard equipment plant, after dismount.
139 Factory: The New Machinery Factory, Shenyang. Was placed under the Ministry of Aviation was established in 1964 when the Ministry of Machinery Industry seventh.
141 Factory: Shaanxi Yan Aviation Instrument Company.
143 Factory: Guizhou Honglin aviation hydraulic parts factory.
144 Factory: wind and thunder Ordnance Factory, Guizhou Anshun.
144 plant: 012 base switch valve plant, is not built.
145 Factory: Shanxi Jinan Chemical Plant (Taiyuan)
146 plant: 012 base wheel brakes annex plant is not built.
147 Factory: Sungai Chongqing Machinery Plant (formerly in Qijiang): Oe plant genus.
148 Factory: Hong Yuan Aviation casting industry company. Sanyuan.
149 Factory: Shanghai Aerospace Equipment Manufacturing Factory, is aerospace eight homes.
150 plants: Longyan aircraft factory in Guizhou Anshun.
151 plant: 012 Factory electromagnetic base, the proposed store in Nanzheng flagpole after dismount.
152 Factory: Jiangling Machinery Factory (Chongqing): incorporated Chongqing Changan factory.
153 Factory: Tongchuan Canton Township, is Tongchuan Mining Bureau, the state designated civilian explosion-proof equipment production plant.
153 plant: 012 base engine fuel accessories factory, to be built in Mian County of Hanzhong City, after dismount.
154 Factory: Yonghong Machinery Plant, Guiyang.
155 Factory: Jinzhou Hua Shiying Glass (Group) Co., Ltd., China's largest production base of quartz glass.
156 Factory: China Yaohua Glass Group Corporation, Qinhuangdao.
157 Factory: Chengdu Southwest Glass - Glass Co., Ltd. Chengdu Jufeng. It covers an area of ​​135 acres and currently employs 600 people. National military aviation and bullet-proof glass sentinel plants, riot and other special glass earliest professional manufacturers. Original in Mianzhu, now moved to Chengdu (Box 843).
157 Factory: Jin Lin Machinery Factory - Chengdu Jin Lin Industrial Manufacturing Co., Ltd., the original Chongqing Wansheng, production cannon. In 2003 he moved to Pengzhou.
158 Factory: South Peak Luoyang Aviation Precision Machinery Company / Luoyang aviation electronics factory.
159 Factory: Aerospace belongs to Hospitals. Cruise missile development and production assembly plant.
160 Factory: Guizhou Aviation.
161 Factory: Chengdu Aviation Instrument Company.
162 Factory: Shuangyang aircraft factory
164 Factory: Anhui-machine factory.
165 Factory: Guilin Aviation Electric Company, now part of China Aerospace Times Electronics Instruments.
166 Factory: Guizhou Aviation.
167 Factory: Chengdu Lingchuan Mechanical Plant.
170 Factory: Guizhou Aviation Xinyi Machinery Factory.
171 Factory: Suzhou Changfeng Machinery Co., Ltd.
172 Factory: Xi'an Aircraft Industrial Corporation.
173 Factory: Qin Feng, Shaanxi aviation hydraulic company Hanzhong City Xixiang.
174 Factory: Sichuan Airlines Hydraulic Machinery: the original in Ya'an, after moved to Guanghan.
175 Factory: Suzhou Instrument Factory in 1963 from the local acceptance as Shanghai Airlines electrical plant products factory copy, specializes in the production of aviation lighting. 1966 with measuring and cutting tools factory in Suzhou merged state-owned Changfeng Machinery Plant.
176 Factory: Ship.
177 Factory: Chang-Lin Machinery Factory, Jiangxi Tonggu original 1994 relocation Xinyu.
178 plant: 012 base bolt factory, after dismount.
181 Factory: Factory Wuhan - Wuhan Aviation Instrument Co., Ltd.
182 Factory: Shaanxi Aircraft Factory: Chenggu County Hanzhong City. 1979, Tong Hui Machinery Factory, Jinsong Machinery Factory and 012 aircraft separation set up a separate design.
183 Factory: Guiyang Feng Yang hydraulic companies.
185 Factory: Guiyang Aviation Electric Motor Co., Ltd.
186 plant: 012 base after dismount.
187 Factory: Shanxi Guancenshan.
188 Factory: Guizhou Huafeng Electric Co.
197 Factory: Hebei Taihang Machinery Industry Co., Ltd. (Shijiazhuang)
202 Factory: Baotou, Baotou namely Guanghua Chemical Industry Co., China's first nuclear fuel production base.
202 Factory: South Peak Machinery Factory, namely South Peak Luoyang Aviation Precision Machinery Company, AAM assembly plant, originally part of the base 012, after moved to Luoyang. 5000 people.
204 Factory: Chengdu, Sichuan electrical equipment plant, formerly in Sichuan Aikawa, after moved to Longquanyi.
205 Factory: Global China Aviation Instrument Electrical Factory: Ya'an, Sichuan.
206 Factory: Jiangxi Evergreen Machinery Co., Ltd., Yichun City, the local military.
208 Factory: Chengdu Guangming Optoelectronic Information Materials Co., Ltd: China's largest production base of optical materials.
211 Factory: Capital Aviation Machinery Company (Capital Machinery Plant), is a Space Academy. One of 156 projects.
212 Factory: Pou General Electric Company: Baoji. One 156.
213 Factory:
215 Factory: Four Chuan Chuanan chemical plants, in the original Jiang, after relocating to the city of Dujiangyan.
216 Factory: Sichuan Huaqing Machinery Co., Ltd. (South Stream): The original Sichuan Changqing machine factory. Original in South Stream, civilian moved to Pengzhou.
218 Factory: Beijing North China Optical Instrument Co., Ltd.
221 Factory: Taiyuan Aviation Instrument Company.
221 Factory: Haiyan Golden Sand (obsolete), the first nuclear weapons research bases in China, Northwest Nuclear Weapons Research and Design Institute (Ninth Academy), originally set up in Beijing, 1958 in Qinghai building, built in 1962, 1964 The successful development of the first atomic bomb. Its nuclear weapons still located in the west of Beijing Research Institute, proving ground in northwest Beijing Huairou County garden town. 1968 moved to Mianyang Southwestern Institute of Physics.
226 Factory: Sichuan Jian Industry Co., Ltd., the original in Ya'an, after moved to Pi.
228 Factory: Jilin Light Group Ltd. (Changchun): Optical Instrument Factory original Northeast.
231 Factory: Factory 012 base diaphragm. After the dismount.
232 Factory: Beijing Qingyun Aviation Instrument Company.
234 Factory: Modern Chemical Industry Co., Ltd. Shandong North (Jinan): The original Shandong chemical plant.
236 Factory: Chongqing Changfeng Machinery Co., Ltd. (Jiangjin)
238 Factory: Hubei Huazhong Precision Instrument (Yidu)
239 Factory: Beijing Navistar machine manufacturing company, which belongs to Aerospace Hospitals.
241 Factory: the Yangtze River Instrument: original in Ya'an, Sichuan, after moved to Guanghan.
242 Factory: Lanzhou Flight Control Instrument Factory. One 156.
245 Factory: One 156: Northern Xing'an Chemical Industry Co., Ltd., Shanxi (Taiyuan).
246 Factory: Chongqing Qingshan Industrial Co., Ltd (Bishan)
247 Factory: The original northern Shanxi Shanxi Machine Tool Plant Machinery Manufacturing Co., Ltd. (Taiyuan),: one 156. Production artillery.
248 Factory: Optical Co., Ltd. Xi'an North: one 156.
251 plant: 012 base oxygen plant, after the dismount.
252 plant: 012 base fighter autopilot plant, Shaanxi Nanzheng after dismount.
255 Factory: Luzhou North Chemical Industry Co., Ltd. (Sichuan Luzhou): The original Luzhou Chemical Plant.
256 Factory: Chongqing Iron Horse Industrial Group Limited. Production of tanks and armored vehicles.
257 Factory: Chongqing Hirayama Machinery Plant (formerly in Wansheng): Oe plant genus.
258 Factory: Plain photoelectric Limited (Jiaozuo)
268 Factory: Sichuan Jin Douguang Electric Instrument (Huaying Guanyin River, later moved to the new capital), original gold Instrument.
272 Factory: Hengyang Xinhua Chemical Metallurgy Group Ltd., Hengyang City, later moved to Hainan Lingshui.
281 plant: 011 Base-air missile autopilot plant, Shaanxi Nanzheng after dismount.
282 Factory: Jiangnan Machinery (Group) Co., Ltd. (Xiangtan)
284 Factory: Beijing Changfeng mechanical power plant, is aerospace hospital.
288 Factory: Hubei Yangtze Optical Instrument Factory (Yidu, later moved to Wuhan Huangpi)
289 Factory: Bashan Instrument Factory (now Aerospace Times Electronics Instruments)
295 Factory: Hubei Huazhong Pharmaceutical Co., Ltd. (Xiangfan)
296 Factory: Construction Industry (Group) Co., Ltd. (Chongqing)
298 Factory: Yunnan North Optical Instrument Co., Ltd. (Kunming)
300 Factory: SOUTH transmission Machinery Plant (Wangcheng)
301 plant: 012 level meter base tachometer with factory after dismount.
304 Factory: Shanxi North Fang Huifeng Electromechanical Co., Ltd. (Changzhi)
305: Changhong Machine Factory (build Deyang, Mianyang moved to 1958), 156 projects. China's only airborne fire control radar base. Second Ministry of Machine origin, after four planes placed under the Ministry. 1972 black and white TV conversion success. In 1976 he developed the first color TV.
307 Factory: Chenguang Machinery Factory: said outside Nanjing Chenguang Group Co., Ltd. Jinling Machine Factory. It was placed under the Ministry of weapons from 1964 when the Ministry of Machinery Industry seventh.
308 Factory: Chongqing Huaguang Instrument (Huaying Tianchi, later moved to Beibei)
311 plant: 012 scale base oil plant, after dismount.
314 Factory: Hebei Huafeng Machinery Factory (**)
315 Factory: Guizhou Tianyi Electrical Co., Ltd., Zunyi.
318 Factory: Beijing Great Wall north Photoelectric Instrument Co., Ltd.: night vision.
320 Factory: Nanchang Aviation Industry Group (320 plant and 512 plants combined). One 156.
322 Factory: ambitious aircraft factory: Jingmen, production parachute and airborne equipment.
323 Factory: Jilin Baiyun Machinery Factory (Toho)
331 Factory: China Southern Airlines Power Machinery Company Hunan Zhuzhou one, 156.
333 Factory: Hebei Lingyun Industrial Group Co., Ltd. (Laiyuan - after removal)
338 Factory: Optical Instrument Factory Chongqing Ming-kai (Huaying, later moved to Chongqing)
340 plant: 012 base small module gear factory, after dismount.
341 plant: 012 base foundry, after dismount.
342 Factory: Shanxi Huaihai Electrical Co., Ltd. (Changzhi)
343 Factory: Hunan Hongyuan Machinery Factory (Lianyuan, later moved to Yueyang)
345 plant: 012 base lamps Insurance silk factory, after dismount.
348 Factory: southwest Sichuan optical Industrial (Group) Co., Ltd. (Huaying, later moved to Pi), the original red Instrument.
349 Factory: Fenghua Machinery Factory: said outside Harbin Fenghua Aerospace Science and Technology Company. Established in 1964 the Ministry of Machinery Industry seventh separated from the Ordnance Department set up 423 plants (Songjiang Machinery Plant).
351 Factory: JAC Aviation Instrument Factory, Hefei.
354 Factory: Sichuan Jianghua Machine Factory (Huaying Qinghua - Longquanyi)
355 Factory: Guiyang Wanjiang Aviation Electromechanical Co., Ltd.
356 Factory: Yunnan Xiyi Industry Co., Ltd. (Kunming)
358 Factory: China Henan Photoelectric Instrument Factory (Xinyang)
368 Factory: Han Kuang Machinery Plant (Handan)
370 Factory: Le River machinery factory in Jiangxi in 1985 moved to Changzhou, renamed Lan Xiang, Changzhou Machinery Plant (Changzhou aviation engine factory), the major manufacturing helicopters and motorcycle engines. 3,000 employees.
370 Factory: Fen supremely Machinery Factory, 012 base blade factory. After the dismount.
371 plant: 012 base elastic sensing element factory. After the dismount.
372 Factory: Changhe Aircraft Industries Corporation: Jingdezhen.
374 Factory: Shanxi Jianghuai Machinery Plant (Jincheng).
375 Factory: Liaoning Qingyang Chemical Co., Ltd. (Liaoyang), China's largest fire bomb # drug production base.
376 Plant: Pioneer Machinery Plant Baoding.
378 Factory: Henan Sichuan Optoelectronics Optical Instrument Factory (the town square, later moved to Nanyang)
380 Factory: Qing Yuning Machinery Factory, 012 base blade factory. After the dismount.
381 plant: 012 Base-air missile with a seeker and fuse factory, Shaanxi Nanzheng after dismount.
382 Factory: Changzhou Aircraft Manufacturing Company: Changzhou Box 16, covers an area of ​​1.1 million square meters, was established in 1970, mainly produces pressure vessels and helicopters. 1,500 employees.
383 Factory: Chongqing Yimin Machinery Plant (Rongchang).
383 Factory: long Machinery Plant, Duyun.
388 Factory: SOUTH Optical Instrument Factory (Hubei Yidu).
390 Factory: Jiao Jiangshan Machinery Plant, the small base of 012 parts factory. After the dismount.
393 Factory: mountains of Sichuan Machinery Plant, the original in Longchang, after relocating to the city of Dujiangyan.
394 Factory: Beijing North Machine Industry Co., Ltd. (Tongzhou): The original Beijing Machinery Factory.
395 plant: 012 base after dismount.
403 Factory: Yichang Marine Diesel Engine Plant.
404 Factory: Jiuquan: China's largest nuclear energy production joint ventures, an area of ​​1260 square kilometers.
404 Factory: wind and thunder machinery plant, river gorge marine diesel engine plant (Hubei Zhijiang).
405 Factory: Hanzhong: China's first use of advanced technology to produce nuclear fuel for commercial plants.
405 Factory: Chongqing Weichai engine plant (CASE), the original diesel engine plant in Sichuan / forward Machinery Plant.
406 Factory: Hongwei Machinery Factory, Chongqing Wulong Baimashan.
407 Factory: Henan Diesel Engine Group Co., Ltd. (Luoyang), one of 156.
408 Factory: Shaanxi Diesel Engine Factory (Xingping), one of 156.
410 Factory: Shenyang Liming Engine Manufacturing Company. One 156.
416 Factory: Yongchuan.
420 Factory: Chengdu Engine Group.
423 Factory: Harbin Songjiang Machinery Factory.
424 Factory: Hudong-Zhonghua Shipbuilding Group (Shanghai).
425 Factory: Wuhu Shipyard.
426 Factory: Dalian Shipyard Limited.
427 Factory: Guangzhou Huangpu Shipyard (Guangzhou Huangpu Cheung Chau)
428 Factory: Dalian Marine Diesel Engine Factory.
429 Factory: Chongqing Shipyard (moon Da)
430 Factory: Xi'an Aero Engine Group.
431 Factory: reportedly also one of 156 Bohai Shipbuilding Heavy Industry Co., Ltd. (Huludao).
432 Factory: Chuan Dong Shipyard (Fuling)
433 Factory: Guangzhou Shipyard International Co., Ltd., the Guangzhou Shipyard.
434 Factory: Xijiang Shipyard (Liuzhou)
435 Factory: Jiujiang shipyard.
436 Factory: Jiangnan Shipbuilding Group (Shanghai)
437 Factory: Shanghai (Innovation Shipyard)
438 Factory: Wuchang Shipyard
439 Factory:
440 Factory:
441 Factory: Jiujiang Instrument Factory
445 Factory: Hangzhou
446 Factory: Hubei Hua Zhou, Ltd. (Chibi)
447 Factory: Inner Mongolia North Heavy Industries Group Co., Ltd. (Baotou): One of 156. The second original machinery factory in Inner Mongolia.
449 Factory: Guangxi Guijiang shipyard (Wuzhou)
451 Factory: China Jialing Group (Chongqing)
452 Factory: Chongqing Machinery Factory Nampo (five bridges)
453 Factory: Chongqing Three Gorges Diesel Engine Factory ()
454 Factory: Chongqing Jiangling Instrument Factory (five bridges)
455 Factory: Chongqing Changping Machinery Plant (five bridges)
456 Factory: Changan Automobile (Group) Limited Liability Company (Chongqing)
457 Factory: Chongqing, China Chongqing Electric Instrument Factory, the former Jiangling Instrument Factory ()
458 Factory: Jiangxi Xunyang Electronic Instrument Factory (Dean)
459 Factory: Jiangxi Navigation Instrument Factory (Ruichang)
460 Factory: Liyang Aero Engine Manufacturing Company (Guizhou)
461 Factory: Wuhan Marine Machinery Co., Ltd.
462 Factory: Chongqing hydraulic Factory (Yongchuan), former Yonghong Machinery Plant.
465 Factory: Chongqing Hongjiang Machinery Plant (Yongchuan), former Sichuan pump nozzle adjustment pacer plant.
466 Factory: Chongqing Yuejin Machinery Plant (Yongchuan), Chongqing former Marine Diesel Engine Parts Factory.
467 Factory: Chongqing Jiangjin Turbocharger Plant (CASE), the former emerging Machinery Plant.
468 Factory: Chongqing Gearbox Co., Ltd. (CASE), the original Yongjin Machinery Plant.
469 Factory: Chongqing Hongyang Machinery Factory (CASE)
470 Factory: Jin Dongfeng Machinery Factory, 012 base aircraft engine assembly plant (engine parts plant includes 370,370,390,480,490 plant, consisting of a total of six engine factory production line, built by the Chengdu 420 factory package, all at the original site Mian County of Hanzhong City). After the dismount.
471 Factory: Wuhan Heavy Industry Casting and Forging Co., Ltd.
47l Factory: Red Star Machinery Plant, Lanzhou nuclear equipment manufacturer.
474 Factory: Liaoning Huafeng Chemical Group Co., Ltd. (Fushun)
475 Factory: Liaoning east chemical plant (Lingyuan Yangjiazhangzi)
476 Factory: Nanjing marine auxiliary plant.
479 Factory: Chongqing Heavy Casting and Forging Plant.
480 Factory: Pentium anxious Machinery Factory, 012 base large processing plants. After the dismount.
481 factory: Zibo battery factory.
482 Factory: Baoding Sailing Group Co., Ltd., one is said to 156. Batteries.
486 Factory: Chongqing Hengshan Machinery Plant (Xiong)
489 Factory: Chongqing Qingping Machinery Factory (sorghum)
490 Factory: shock five states Machinery Plant, 012 base stamping and welding plant. After the dismount.
491 Factory: Marine Machinery Plant Jiujiang.
497 Factory: Wangjiang Machine Manufacturing Plant (Chongqing)
518 Factory: Liaoning Dandong City, the internal combustion engine
781 Factory: Gansu Changfeng Machinery Plant (Lanzhou), washing machine, color TV, refrigerator.
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  I have no idea if this is a comprehensive list that covers all of China's arsenal factories, or just China North's, China South's, or just a partial list that was all they could think of at the time? It doesn't have the Polytech arsenal 386, or many of the other arsenal codes, especailly the Jianshe /26\.  I would revel in the fact that there is no 016 code and there is a 416 Factory: Yongchuan. But there's not enough rhyme or reason to this list to make any assumptions, albeit it is interesting. It is the first list of actual arsenal factories in China, in Chinese, that I've seen. So it's a step in the right direction.

  Personally, I believe it's a /416\.  ArmedHippie, most of the examples that you shared pics of, to me had the "leg" and little doubt for me that they're /416\ codes. But hey, that's only my opinion. And in case you weren't aware, I had THE POTUS Obama write a special E.O., declaring my opinions to be the law of the land, concerning the arsenal /416\  code and all debate is now closed and illegal.  :o  bat1  dance2   thumb1 

  I would like to know what the meaning of the suffix at the end of many lines on the second chart, that says:  " After the dismount." 

  firstchoice

Dismount my be misinterpreted.  Disbandment?  Shut down?  Demilitarization into civilian production of other things?

Yup...  I'm more convinced through data now that it is indeed 416.

Quote from: firstchoice on February 14, 2016, 02:25:03 PM
  I have no idea if this is a comprehensive list that covers all of China's arsenal factories, or just China North's, China South's, or just a partial list that was all they could think of at the time? It doesn't have the Polytech arsenal 386, or many of the other arsenal codes, especailly the Jianshe /26\.  I would revel in the fact that there is no 016 code and there is a 416 Factory: Yongchuan. But there's not enough rhyme or reason to this list to make any assumptions, albeit it is interesting. It is the first list of actual arsenal factories in China, in Chinese, that I've seen. So it's a step in the right direction.

  Personally, I believe it's a /416\.  ArmedHippie, most of the examples that you shared pics of, to me had the "leg" and little doubt for me that they're /416\ codes. But hey, that's only my opinion. And in case you weren't aware, I had THE POTUS Obama write a special E.O., declaring my opinions to be the law of the land, concerning the arsenal /416\  code and all debate is now closed and illegal.  :o  bat1  dance2   thumb1 

  I would like to know what the meaning of the suffix at the end of many lines on the second chart, that says:  " After the dismount." 

  firstchoice

Factory 26 is listed as Factory 296:

296 Factory: Construction Industry (Group) Co., Ltd. (Chongqing)

Jianshe in Chinese means Construction

Quote from: fenceline on February 14, 2016, 02:32:39 PM
Dismount my be misinterpreted.  Disbandment?  Shut down?  Demilitarization into civilian production of other things?

the word in the original article means 'suspended'

Interesting... Thanks for the translation.     thumb1

No problem Sir.

A side note: 'One of 156' on the list means the factory was established as one of 156 major industrial projects aided by the Soviet Union according the Sino-Soviet Defense Technology Treaty in early 1950s (later it became Sino-Soviet Agreement on New Technologies for National Defense (1957)).

Interesting... 

Ones like this also?

Quote245 Factory: One 156: Northern Xing'an Chemical Industry Co., Ltd., Shanxi (Taiyuan).

I see alot of 012 listed in descriptions also.... Whats that about?

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on February 14, 2016, 07:28:07 PM
Interesting... 

Ones like this also?

Quote245 Factory: One 156: Northern Xing'an Chemical Industry Co., Ltd., Shanxi (Taiyuan).

I see alot of 012 listed in descriptions also.... Whats that about?

(1) yes, Factory 245 is one of the 156 projects

(2) 012 is military installation number. One installation may have several military factories with different factory codes.

Quote(2) 012 is military installation number. One installation may have several military factories with different factory codes.

I knew it!

RM is going to blow chunks.  rofl

How you find this out?   Anything to reference?

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on February 14, 2016, 07:58:52 PM

Quote(2) 012 is military installation number. One installation may have several military factories with different factory codes.

I knew it!

RM is going to blow chunks.  rofl

How you find this out?   Anything to reference?

012 is an airplane manufacturing plant (in Sha'an Xi province), it has many different factories and even has a military hospital:

http://www.zgjgrc.com/view.php?id=285

the 3rd paragraph mentions all the old military factories, schools, hospitals on post.

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on February 14, 2016, 07:58:52 PM
I knew it!

RM is going to blow chunks.  rofl

How you find this out?   Anything to reference?

Naw, I think that's a pretty logical conclusion given some of the stuff we do know.

We know Nanjing (21st arsenal) moved to Chongqing in 1938.
We know Hanyang (1st arsenal) moved to Chongqing in 1940.
We know the 21st assimilated the entire 1st rifle factory shortly afterwards, with the 21st themselves only having made Hanyang rifles since 1939. 

It seems that factory lines were at least semi-fluid and with the experience the Chinese had moving factories away from the Japanese front in WWII (and again while outmaneuvering KMT forces and consolidating the PLA's power after the war), different factories could find themselves wholly uprooted or under the control of different elements of leadership pretty easily. 

I think we see this with the 1955 T53's with some early 1.3 mil carbines having a 296 stamp while the later 1955 dated 3 million series sported a 26 stamp.  Both are thought to be factories in Chongqing, yet they were different lines, or at least different leadership controlling the same line. 

Pretty much....  I still think situations like all the [] codes could be the same location.

They very well could be.  Someone needs to get off their rears and get the ARSENAL COMPONENT CONFIGURATIONS done! :)

Then we could see the similarities as well as the differences across all the [] lines...

Lol...   Find me some good clear pic listings.   bat1

Clear arsenal pic.... Crappy rest, or Clear pics of whole gun... No arsenal or serial pic.  Its hell I tell ya!

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on February 14, 2016, 05:45:42 PM
Yup...  I'm more convinced through data now that it is indeed 416.

Hey hey hey. Hold on now. Before you close your case I just spent $50 USD ($71 Cdn) to get the certificate from Keng's haha.

At least let it get here haha.

 rofl

Lets take bets.. It will be fun!!       'More convinced' are the key words here.   :P

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on February 14, 2016, 10:34:01 PM
rofl

Lets take bets.. It will be fun!!       'More convinced' are the key words here.   :P

What if....

416 also used 016???  Dual codes???  Like 296 and 26...

chuckles1

Cool... Lets see that certificate.     :))

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on February 14, 2016, 10:45:05 PM
Cool... Lets see that certificate.     :))

Pony express is slow.  It will take 1 to 2 weeks I'm sure.

In this digital age I don't know why they don't just email a scan AND send their fancy water marked paper.

Quote from: pcke2000 on February 14, 2016, 06:05:43 PM

Quote from: fenceline on February 14, 2016, 02:32:39 PM
Dismount my be misinterpreted.  Disbandment?  Shut down?  Demilitarization into civilian production of other things?

the word in the original article means 'suspended'

  Thanks pcke2000! I figured it was a translation shortcoming. This may not be known yet, but what are they talking about with all the "After the suspended/suspension" comments? Was there a particular year that these arsenals were "suspended" or shut down or combined with another arsenal? Or was it more of a natural progression of obsolete plants/arsenals that were not needed and were simply shut down or combined/merged with another arsenal?

firstchoice



 

My Certificate of Authenticity from Keng's Firearms Specialty Inc has just arrived regarding my 016/416 Arsenal stamped, PS stamped Type 56 SKS.

It says...

"This certificate acknowledges that the Poly Technologies, Inc. SKS with Serial Number 180383## was manufactured by State Arsenal 416 in Jing-AN, China.  It was imported by Keng's Firearms Specialty, Inc. on October 13, 1987 and was sold on December 29, 1987."

So there it is.

And here is the close up of the Arsenal stamp...

(http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy118/Prairie-Law-Dog/Chinese%20016%20Type%2056%20Security%20Force/IMG_46461024x683_zps2e904d94.jpg)

Nice!!!!!!!!!

Cool...  Thanks for the update!

Very nice FL! 

Can you get a photo (or simply look at the poly stamps in http://sks-files.com/index.php?topic=2111.0 and let me know which one it is)?  Would be nice to narrow the type of stamp to the import date.  thumb1

Quote from: running-man on February 25, 2016, 09:33:22 PM
Very nice FL! 

Can you get a photo (or simply look at the poly stamps in http://sks-files.com/index.php?topic=2111.0 and let me know which one it is)?  Would be nice to narrow the type of stamp to the import date.  thumb1

Not poly stamps... KFS stamps.

Quote from: Power Surge on February 25, 2016, 09:36:14 PM

Quote from: running-man on February 25, 2016, 09:33:22 PM
Very nice FL! 

Can you get a photo (or simply look at the poly stamps in http://sks-files.com/index.php?topic=2111.0 and let me know which one it is)?  Would be nice to narrow the type of stamp to the import date.  thumb1

Not poly stamps... KFS stamps.

Not poly stamps... KFS stamps.  KFS.ATL.GA on it.

Import stamp #74.

Copied from the stamp thread...
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/survey/chinese/import_stamps/KFS_ATL_GA.jpg~original)

Ahh, righto!  I've got poly on the brain tonight! :P

Nice!  Anything else on the rest of the whole gun?  No 'China' or 7.62 anywhere?!

Quote from: running-man on February 25, 2016, 10:04:09 PM
Nice!  Anything else on the rest of the whole gun?  No 'China' or 7.62 anywhere?!

Nope.  Nothing except the Public Security markings on the right side.   :P

It is one of my favorite Chinese SKS, just for the quality of the wood stock.  The gun is all matching, including the stock.

(http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy118/Prairie-Law-Dog/Chinese%20016%20Type%2056%20Security%20Force/IMG_46421024x683_zpse30222f5.jpg)

He's in Canada RM... 

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on February 25, 2016, 10:14:29 PM
He's in Canada RM...

Ya, but this SKS came out of the U.S. at some point.  Unless you are getting at something else.

Imported by KFS, sold by KFS, and then likely brought across the border before the ITAR stupidity spooled up, and before our firearm laws really took a dump in the early 90s.

Ah...  I was under the impression your gun was not US imported.

Quote from: fenceline on February 25, 2016, 10:18:35 PM

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on February 25, 2016, 10:14:29 PM
He's in Canada RM...

Ya, but this SKS came out of the U.S. at some point.  Unless you are getting at something else.

Imported by KFS, sold by KFS, and then likely brought across the border before the ITAR stupidity spooled up, and before our firearm laws really took a dump in the early 90s.

It's a very nice gun.   thumb1

I knew it was a US import and then exported to Canada, but I'm still a bit perplexed that there's not more information on that stamp though.  Now that I know this stamp was done in '87 I'll have to look up what the firearms import requirements were back then and see what gives. 

Personally I'm quite glad I forked over the money for the certificate.  It is a nice addition to the gun. 

But that it is revealing some cool leads is even better.  Nothing earth shattering, but still steps forward.  Really happy about that.   dance2

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on February 25, 2016, 10:32:27 PM
Ah...  I was under the impression your gun was not US imported.

Nope, US gun.  I've liberated a few from you people hahaha.

Yeah, I forgot this was about getting the certificate from here etc.  Call it a brain fart?

If I hadn't brain farted with Poly != KFS just seven posts above, I'd say you were getting old man! dance2

Oh god, the gas, its contagious.

Quote from: fenceline on February 25, 2016, 10:42:51 PM

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on February 25, 2016, 10:32:27 PM
Ah...  I was under the impression your gun was not US imported.

Nope, US gun.  I've liberated a few from you people hahaha.

Well un-liberate it and send it back, it's marked for us anyway, I mean them terrible US import stamps.. how dare they defile such a nice Canadian specimen....it needs to be with another Security Forces 416 KFS ATL GA family anyway, trust me  :)  it will be well cared for.  thumb1 I'll hold it, while you find an unmarked specimen chuckles1
(http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af283/C13mechanic/soviet%20sino/Public%20Security/HPIM0079_zps97ceaa34.jpg) (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/C13mechanic/media/soviet%20sino/Public%20Security/HPIM0079_zps97ceaa34.jpg.html)

Sister rifle for sure.  Same 18x serial, same KFS markings.  Very cool  thumb1  Less than 500 apart haha.

I really should take a closer look at my Albanian.  Someone liberated that one from the US as well, but no obvious import mark from when it first landed state side.  I probably just haven't seen it.

I'd bet dollars to donuts that Alby is going to have a TG import stamp under the barrel (likely covered up by the bayo & cleaning rod). 

Something like:
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/survey/albanian/import_stamps/TG_KNOX_TN.jpg~original)

thumb1

Yup. Sure does. I like how it is near invisible in that location. Doesn't alter much of the outward appearance.

Quote from: fenceline on February 25, 2016, 09:03:00 PM
My Certificate of Authenticity from Keng's Firearms Specialty Inc has just arrived regarding my 016/416 Arsenal stamped, PS stamped Type 56 SKS.

It says...

"This certificate acknowledges that the Poly Technologies, Inc. SKS with Serial Number 180383## was manufactured by State Arsenal 416 in Jing-AN, China.  It was imported by Keng's Firearms Specialty, Inc. on October 13, 1987 and was sold on December 29, 1987."

So there it is.

And here is the close up of the Arsenal stamp...

(http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy118/Prairie-Law-Dog/Chinese%20016%20Type%2056%20Security%20Force/IMG_46461024x683_zps2e904d94.jpg)

  Really nice, fenceline! I've been debating whether or not to buy one of the certificates from Keng's. I think I'll get one for mine, too. I just wasn't sure it would apply to the SKS and not just the Polytech AK's.

Quote from: fenceline on February 25, 2016, 10:06:31 PM

Quote from: running-man on February 25, 2016, 10:04:09 PM
Nice!  Anything else on the rest of the whole gun?  No 'China' or 7.62 anywhere?!

Nope.  Nothing except the Public Security markings on the right side.   :P

It is one of my favorite Chinese SKS, just for the quality of the wood stock.  The gun is all matching, including the stock.

(http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy118/Prairie-Law-Dog/Chinese%20016%20Type%2056%20Security%20Force/IMG_46421024x683_zpse30222f5.jpg)

  I looked at mine after reading your post and it's marked just like yours. But after further inspection, if you look just forward of your Gas Block, on the under side of the barrel, it should have a nice stamp that reads: SKS 7.62 CHINA. Very small, discreet stamp, like the Albanian TGI stamps, forward of the Gas Block.

  RM, if you need pics of that, let me know.

firstchoice

Would love to see a pic of that stamp FC!  I was surprised that this keng's stamp wasn't more detailed, but it appears I haven't been looking hard enough!  This info is much appreciated!!  thumb1

Quote from: running-man on March 01, 2016, 09:11:27 PM
Would love to see a pic of that stamp FC!  I was surprised that this keng's stamp wasn't more detailed, but it appears I haven't been looking hard enough!  This info is much appreciated!!  thumb1

Which stamp?

Quote from: fenceline on March 01, 2016, 09:14:00 PM

Quote from: running-man on March 01, 2016, 09:11:27 PM
Would love to see a pic of that stamp FC!  I was surprised that this keng's stamp wasn't more detailed, but it appears I haven't been looking hard enough!  This info is much appreciated!!  thumb1

Which stamp?

Firstchoice says there is a "SKS 7.62 CHINA" stamp forward of the gas block at the bottom of the barrel.  Much like the Alby TGI stamps....

Will take a look and get back to you.

Quote from: fenceline on March 01, 2016, 11:15:14 PM
Will take a look and get back to you.

  I was curious as to whether the "SKS 7.62 CHINA" stamp was located in the same location on your KFS-imported Public Security Rifle?

firstchoice