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SKS Carbines => Altered SKS Rifles => Topic started by: Cupid on September 20, 2020, 04:42:14 PM
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I thought you said you sold your Yugo 2 hours after you shot it, what's up with that?
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I thought you said you sold your Yugo 2 hours after you shot it, what's up with that?
I took the pic before I sold it.
Which looks the best and why ?
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i prefer my sks's all original (just a personal preference).
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i prefer my sks's all original (just a personal preference).
Which looks best and why ?
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OK, I'll bite.
The Yugo for me.
I think if there's to be an optic, it needs to be somewhere along the receiver.
I never quite got the knack of the scout scope.
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OK, I'll bite.
The Yugo for me.
I think if there's to be an optic, it needs to be somewhere along the receiver.
I never quite got the knack of the scout scope.
Why ?
It's not a scout scope
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I would go with the Yugo, I kind of like the scout scope look, and I have both my T53 and an SKS using that type of scoping. I do have a red dot to swap out with my LER scope...but I haven't really tried it.
I also think it looks more at home with how it is mounted on the Yugo with all the grenade stuff up front anyway. More balanced appearing?
The regular Type 56 would look better to me without the red dot at all.
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OK, I'll bite.
The Yugo for me.
I think if there's to be an optic, it needs to be somewhere along the receiver.
I never quite got the knack of the scout scope.
Why ?
It's not a scout scope
I could have said scout scope style mount, but I didn't feel like typing that much.
I would have thought it obvious to everyone that it's not a real, actual, honest to God scout scope, but there we are.
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I would go with the Yugo, I kind of like the scout scope look, and I have both my T53 and an SKS using that type of scoping. I do have a red dot to swap out with my LER scope...but I haven't really tried it.
I also think it looks more at home with how it is mounted on the Yugo with all the grenade stuff up front anyway. More balanced appearing?
The regular Type 56 would look better to me without the red dot at all.
Aesthetics then.
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What difference does it make on how it looks?You're the one shooting it.Use what's best for you.Purists will never agree with you on asthetics.
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What difference does it make on how it looks?You're the one shooting it.Use what's best for you.Purists will never agree with you on asthetics.
I will agree with anyone who says an SKS looks better without a red dot. It's my opinion that they look terrible no matter where you stick them.
I'm just trying to understand the reasoning behind the widespread hate of the red dot behind the front sight despite the obvious advantages.
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Okay Mick, to be serious, cause I was just joking around with you.
The reason, traditionally, optics have always been back on the receiver, or mounted on a free floating Hand guard is to keep it away from barrel whip which can destroy said optics. The reason it works somewhat for you on the SKS platform is because the SKS barrel is set in a tension style mount as opposed to the free float that many/most long guns are set in. Tension mounted barrels display less barrel whip so therefore optics mounted forward like yours can survive for a time.
Therefore, based on that, I would never mount an optic of any kind forward like that on any long gun.
Secondary reason why is I think it just plain looks stupid.
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Double post
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Tension mounted barrels display less barrel whip so therefore optics mounted forward like yours can survive for a time.
How long is " a time " ?
Secondary reason why is I think it just plain looks stupid.
If it looks stupid but works it's not stupid :)
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I will agree with anyone who says an SKS looks better without a red dot. It's my opinion that they look terrible no matter where you stick them.
I'm just trying to understand the reasoning behind the widespread hate of the red dot behind the front sight despite the obvious advantages.
Okay, following up on this post.
First; you by your own admission are saying that, as concerns aesthetics, that red dots look terrible on an SKS. Therefore we are all apparently agreed on that point.
Second; You, on your other post about this topic, stated that due to not having any magnification it didn't matter where the red dot was mounted. With that being the case then there is really no "obvious advantages" to it being mounted way up front at the FSB.
Causing the rifle to be more front heavy is not an advantage.
If you are nearsighted it may be too far away to see the dot clearly.
And, as mentioned, out on the barrel like that is harder on the optic and, even buying a cheap one, if you have to keep replacing it then it is biting into your wallet.
That makes being farsighted the only advantage I can think of.
All that makes mounting a red dot out at the end of the barrel very minutely advantageous, and that only for those who require that advantage. To whit, if it works for you then great, but don't be so arrogant to think that everyone else has to love it just because you do.
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Okay, following up on this post.
First; you by your own admission are saying that, as concerns aesthetics, that red dots look terrible on an SKS. Therefore we are all apparently agreed on that point.
Second; You, on your other post about this topic, stated that due to not having any magnification it didn't matter where the red dot was mounted. With that being the case then there is really no "obvious advantages" to it being mounted way up front at the FSB.
The obvious advantages are that nothing on the rifle is hindered in any way, the iron sights can still be used. + you have the option of using the red dot.
Causing the rifle to be more front heavy is not an advantage.
3.7 oz is unnoticeable.
If you are nearsighted it may be too far away to see the dot clearly.
If you can not see the dot clearly you have the option of increasing the intensity. That option in not a possibility with the iron sight which is even further away.
And, as mentioned, out on the barrel like that is harder on the optic and, even buying a cheap one, if you have to keep replacing it then it is biting into your wallet.
That makes being farsighted the only advantage I can think of.
That red dot is the cheapest available, it cost $27 including shipping, over 1000 rounds later and it's still working perfectly. When it eventually stops working ( as they all do ) I will just mount the spare one I bought when I found they were good value.
All that makes mounting a red dot out at the end of the barrel very minutely advantageous, and that only for those who require that advantage. To whit, if it works for you then great, but don't be so arrogant to think that everyone else has to love it just because you do.
I'm hardly being arrogant, I'm being helpful to the uneducated. rofl
I already know well that everyone else does not love it, but I have never met anyone else who has tried it so it's not really surprising. :)
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i prefer my sks's all original (just a personal preference).
Which looks best and why ? the Yugo because the red/dot just looks weird located there.
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Just curious Cupid are you selling or did you design the mount or have any interest in that mount? I'm asking because since you joined you been really keen on talking about that setup. If so, I don't care and it would make more sense otherwise I don't understand why you keep asking why people like or don't like it. Multiple people have stated their opinion on it so...
My personal thought is if you're happy with your setups that is the ONLY thing that should matter.
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i prefer my sks's all original (just a personal preference).
Which looks best and why ? the Yugo because the red/dot just looks weird located there.
I guess unconventional does look weird. lol
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Just curious Cupid are you selling or did you design the mount or have any interest in that mount? I'm asking because since you joined you been really keen on talking about that setup. If so, I don't care and it would make more sense otherwise I don't understand why you keep asking why people like or don't like it. Multiple people have stated their opinion on it so...
My personal thought is if you're happy with your setups that is the ONLY thing that should matter.
I have not designed the mount and have no financial interest in it, it's just a bipod mount turned upside down. I keep talking about it because as far as RDS mounts go I think it's absolutely perfect . :)
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Okay, second thread on this topic. Phrasing your answer in the form of a question doesn't make it a different subject Alex* :)) I haven't chimed in since you heard my opinion before. Muzzle-mounted red dot part deux has remained amazingly civil, so congratulations to everyone.
We all realize that you love the muzzle mounted red dots Cupid; I assure you, your point has been made. thankyou1 Perhaps you'll win some new converts but it seems the crowd is generally resistant to your evangelizing tommy1 rofl
You clearly enjoy it and can bask in the personal satisfaction at obtaining SKS sight perfection , for you. thumb1
*Wishing Alex T. healing
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Okay, second thread on this topic. Phrasing your answer in the form of a question doesn't make it a different subject Alex* :)) I haven't chimed in since you heard my opinion before. Muzzle-mounted red dot part deux has remained amazingly civil, so congratulations to everyone.
We all realize that you love the muzzle mounted red dots Cupid; I assure you, your point has been made. thankyou1 Perhaps you'll win some new converts but it seems the crowd is generally resistant to your evangelizing tommy1 rofl
You clearly enjoy it and can bask in the personal satisfaction at obtaining SKS sight perfection , for you. thumb1
*Wishing Alex T. healing
Thanks thumb1. It's the best non modifying mod I have discovered. A good trigger job and this type of mount for a RDS makes the SKS the best available for the $ by far.
PS, It ended up being the same topic but that was not the intention.
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I would go with the Yugo, I kind of like the scout scope look, and I have both my T53 and an SKS using that type of scoping. I do have a red dot to swap out with my LER scope...but I haven't really tried it.
I also think it looks more at home with how it is mounted on the Yugo with all the grenade stuff up front anyway. More balanced appearing?
The regular Type 56 would look better to me without the red dot at all.
Aesthetics then.
Actually not as much as you may think. I am one of few that does the scout scope at all around here AFAIK, but I have crummy vision...and am a right handed shooter/left eye dominant...and I wear bifocals. Generally, I wouldn't appreciate the look, nor do I particularly care for red dots on a wood stocked rifle. They don't help as much for my vision issues, and scopes look better. It's function and form. My SKS with the scout setup over the rear sight is full on bubba, but it also has different setups, for tinkering around. I only screw around with a few of them...the other dozen or so are as issued, or after I have unbubba'd them they are then as reissued. :P
I have a few red dots, and might even have a similar mount around here somewhere. My red dots are beyond cheap...I think the one that I have that is similar/identical to yours set me back about seven bucks new. Just because I don't particularly care for it doesn't mean I would pound it to death clamped to the barrel, or risk even shoddier marksmanship by creating barrel resonance by doing it that way. With my experience on the SKS platform and scout type optics, the handguard type, are a joke, the quad rail type are bulky and heavy, but one replacing the rear sight both looks better, is less likely to get beat up...and won't cause issues with accuracy.
Plus, with all the weight up front with the grenade trappings on the Yugo, if you put it up there it would look like some kind of weird blender attachment, that is unbalanced and front heavy.
I also like to be able to turn the thing off while I am still shouldering it...I forget often enough and kill batteries often when using these things.
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I found it impossible to mount on the Yugo.
"Plus, with all the weight up front with the grenade trappings on the Yugo, if you put it up there it would look like some kind of weird blender attachment, that is unbalanced and front heavy."
Aesthetics again
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I found it impossible to mount on the Yugo.
"Plus, with all the weight up front with the grenade trappings on the Yugo, if you put it up there it would look like some kind of weird blender attachment, that is unbalanced and front heavy."
Aesthetics again
It's clear to me that JH is saying function and aesthetics.
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I found it impossible to mount on the Yugo.
"Plus, with all the weight up front with the grenade trappings on the Yugo, if you put it up there it would look like some kind of weird blender attachment, that is unbalanced and front heavy."
Aesthetics again
It's clear to me that JH is saying function and aesthetics.
It's clear to me that until he tries it he is not in a position to talk about the function.
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Okay, your initial question was explicitly about aesthetics. Then you denigrate anyone who offers an opinion on aesthetics and aver that only function is important.
Then you stipulate that only those who have shot with the red dot clamp mount can have an opinion on function.
I’m left with the logical conclusion that you don’t actually want any opinions think1