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B-grades from CF

Started by Marshall-law, December 19, 2014, 01:45:09 PM

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Marshall-law

Here is my story: I was bit by the mosin bug a few years ago and really got into the fun of unboxing the unknown. I did buy a few Finns that I knew what I was getting before it arrived and I found that although the rifle was what I wanted the trill of the unknown was gone. Well I got off mosins and moved to other things. Just recently I was just surfin the web looking at milsurp and I saw CF had B-grade SKS's and I figured what the heck lets see if the trill is still there so I ordered one. I've never owned a sks for some reason. Well It came in and the trill was still there and I feel like I got a pretty nice B-grade letter M carbine minor rust and small crack in stock, bluing around 50% all matching except the stock number was wore off and I couldnt read the piston number. Overall I was happy so I order one more. It rolled in just before lunch and the box was marked C RUST. I knew right then I had my work cut out trying whip it back into shape. Lol. So I opened the box to see how bad it was and I got a letter F carbine this time all matching even stock, I have not checked piston yet. No cracks in stock this time and bluing is 85%. The rust is pretty bad on the sides of the mag and the trigger. I started breaking it down to see how bad it was inside on the trigger group and I can not get it to come out. I can get the release button to move but trigger group will not budge. Any ideas on what I need to do the get it out?  I'm ok with the rust a long as the trigger group is not covered in it. I'll try to post some pic's tonight.

Loose}{Cannon

Bug got you also eh?   :P

It should come out, just may take a bit of help.  Be sure you have the safety ON as it will not come out with it off!

May want to soak the action liberally with BP Blaster and smack the top and bittom with a rubber mallot to help loosen things up.  I received arguably on of the rustiest rifles from the century match... I feel you pain. 
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

Marshall-law

Thanks LC! I'll give that a try. I'm in a little pain, but I still may order one more after the first of year if they still have any left.

Loose}{Cannon

Is that what you ordered that was rusty...  a C grade?   Hope you didn't order a B and they sent a C....
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

Phosphorus32

Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on December 19, 2014, 02:27:43 PM
Is that what you ordered that was rusty...  a C grade?   Hope you didn't order a B and they sent a C....
+1

If you ordered--and paid for--a B grade and the labeling says "C rust" indicative of a C grade, then I'd send a pic of the carton label and rusty carbine parts to Classic and ask for a refund of the price difference.  They've always been good to me in regard to customer service. 

Welcome to the addiction.  thumb1 I often enjoy the lottery aspect of ordering from the retailers and have had more wins than losses in that regard. 

BTW, we enjoy pics  ;)

Marshall-law

The first one I received had a C on the box also, but had little rust and small crack. They mention rust and crack stocks, but the rifle should be a working rifle which is still unknown at this point. I think they are getting down to the last of them. As long as the trigger group is not toast and it shoots I can live with some rust. I'll post some pics later tonight.

Loose}{Cannon

But.....   your ordered B grade rifles?
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

Marshall-law

Quote from: Phosphorus32 on December 19, 2014, 02:39:50 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on December 19, 2014, 02:27:43 PM
Is that what you ordered that was rusty...  a C grade?   Hope you didn't order a B and they sent a C....
+1

If you ordered--and paid for--a B grade and the labeling says "C rust" indicative of a C grade, then I'd send a pic of the carton label and rusty carbine parts to Classic and ask for a refund of the price difference.  They've always been good to me in regard to customer service. 

Welcome to the addiction.  thumb1 I often enjoy the lottery aspect of ordering from the retailers and have had more wins than losses in that regard. 

BTW, we enjoy pics  ;)
I may try that if it's bad on the inside. Thanks!

Loose}{Cannon

I would flat out make them take it back and demand what I payed for..... a B.

But I'm jerky like that....   gimme what I payed for!!!
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

Marshall-law

Yes I ordered B grade rifles. I don't think classic is offering a C grade yet, but I guess these could have been marked C's at some point and that is what they have left. I would like to know if anyone else has got one from them that the box was marked B or C

running-man

#10
There are varying degrees of rust, what you describe doesn't really sound horrid, so there is hope!!!

I suspect that you either have a missing spring between the stock & TG or if its there, the rust build up on the trigger group is simply binding and not allowing it to come out. I'd get a helper to depress the release latch with a rod or screw driver or whatever you usually use. At the same time, grab the trigger guard and pull up and it will come free. As my dad used to say "It wasn't born there!"

And because I like to traumatize LC with photos of mr rusty:  rofl2


Seriously though, if you are unhappy with the purchase, contact classic and they will take care of you.  Their rep is pretty good and even the one instance where they weren't going to help was chalked up to the usual CS guy being out of the office and it was corrected immediately upon his return.  thumb1
      

Loose}{Cannon

Oh nooo...  the worst of it was looking into the receiver.    bat1

It cleaned up nice though...  had to take the cover down to the white and reblue/black oxide
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

running-man

#12
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on December 19, 2014, 03:21:29 PM
Oh nooo...  the worst of it was looking into the receiver.    bat1

It cleaned up nice though...  had to take the cover down to the white and reblue/black oxide

Ahhh, I forgot the inside of the receiver:  chuckles1


This guy might have had it worse though...heaviest pitting I've ever seen on an IO (Sorry for hijacking your thread Marshall...but believe me, it could be worse!):




      

Loose}{Cannon

Oh...  yeah.   That was worse.   :-X
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

Marshall-law

 :o I dont think its that bad. Im fixin to try to get it opened up. I'll try posting some pic's in a bit.

Marshall-law

#15
Ok this the B-grade I received Monday. Pretty much all matching. The stock sn# is rubbed off and I cant read piston. So here are a few pic's. I'll post some outside photos once I get it put back together.

Adam7

My 7 mil has that same 'rubbed out' s/n on the stock.  Strange.

Marshall-law

#17
Here is the B-grade I got today. It is all matching even the piston. The rust is not as bad as I feared and bluing is good and no cracks in the stock. Notice the method of removing the trigger  8). And also notice the safety cut-outs in the stocks. I BELIEVE it will clean up with a little elbow grease. HERE ARE THE PIC'S.

Loose}{Cannon

That aint all that bad huh....   good scores for the price eh?
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

Marshall-law

I also got the cleaning rods with both. Not bad for the price at all.