1949 Russian SKS used in popular post 'Russian SKS45 ID/FAQ collectibles'

[pcke2000]

https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=17575

Does the 1949 shown in the post look like an example from Westrifle?

Is the stock wrong for the cruciform bayonet?

[jstin2]

Although it is hard to say if the 49 was from Westrifle as stated in article, their magazines were usually frankin pinned.
Also I am including pictures of stock differences between spike and blade.
https://ibb.co/gJYOew

[Boris Badinov]

If you are referring to this photo:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/2009/12/P10900301280x720-1.jpg

Its hard to tell of the stock is tapered (spike bayo) or pot bellied (blade bayo).

There are a handful of inaccuracies in that info thread. The op did a lot of research but it hasnt been updated for over a decade.

[jstin2]

I do not have any individual side pictures of a stock for a spike bayonet. But in my album 1950 with spike there are several pictures of stock. In my opinion the stock on the 49 has been altered to fit spike.
https://ibb.co/album/kP3zJv

[Justin Hell]

I do not have any individual side pictures of a stock for a spike bayonet. But in my album 1950 with spike there are several pictures of stock. In my opinion the stock on the 49 has been altered to fit spike.
https://ibb.co/album/kP3zJv

Agreed, the proper taper on the 49 stock is noticeable from a considerable distance...the one photographed in the milsurps post is a modified regular stock. Considering the issues they had with the birch cracking, I doubt many originals that actually saw use lasted. The way to tell if that is a Westrifle fauxrty-nine stock is if that stock is actually stamped with a 1949 date...which in reality, it wouldn't have been.

[pcke2000]

If you are referring to this photo:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/2009/12/P10900301280x720-1.jpg

Its hard to tell of the stock is tapered (spike bayo) or pot bellied (blade bayo).

There are a handful of inaccuracies in that info thread. The op did a lot of research but it hasnt been updated for over a decade.

IMHO, the 49 stock in that pic was originally for a blade bayonet. The shape of groove on real 1949 with spike bayonet is very unique. You can tell the difference easily, especially you have handled correct stock for spike bayonet in person before.

[Greatguns]

If you are referring to this photo:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/2009/12/P10900301280x720-1.jpg

Its hard to tell of the stock is tapered (spike bayo) or pot bellied (blade bayo).

There are a handful of inaccuracies in that info thread. The op did a lot of research but it hasnt been updated for over a decade.

IMHO, the 49 stock in that pic was originally for a blade bayonet. The shape of groove on real 1949 with spike bayonet is very unique. You can tell the difference easily, especially you have handled correct stock for spike bayonet in person before.

Agreed, that is definitely a "re-purposed" stock. You can see the remains of the blade cutout on the inlet for the spike cutout.

[Boris Badinov]

Here's an in focus shot of the taper on a 1949 stock (from yooperj's site):




The crappy light makes it difficult to discern the contour of the stock fore end:


IMO it looks wider than a 1949 tapered stock, but narrower than the later pot bellied stocks.  So... possibly a modified pot belly stock (?)

[Justin Hell]

The tiny stock ferrule for the 49 makes it obvious.  They didn't have a cut for the bayonet, because the bayonet didn't touch it, they only have a cleaning rod hole.....plus the angle the bayonet rides at in the replacement stock is off, because in the blade cut stocks, you couldn't remove enough material without going all the way through the forend to get it to ride at the correct angle.  Makes you wonder if it even fully locks into place.

The cut down stock is reminiscent of how an Albanian stock looks once cut down to fit 'normal' SKSs.

[Greatguns]

Nice pics Boris, that give another really good tell tale sign.