1950 SKS with spike bayonet

[Boris Badinov]

One possiblity is that the "Б" stamp that was used to serialize the receiver was worn/marred enough that whoever stamped thought it was an "E".

[jstin2]

The only way to prove that is was originally a EM, is to find a another 50 with spike. My opinion is that it was  originally stamped БM 717.

[jstin2]

I have spent the last 4 years trying to find another 1950 with a spike bayonet. I have replied to many 1950's for sale. I had a lead last summer but it did not pan out. Three days ago I found one that I hoped would pan out. It was double the price of a regular SKS was selling for. Seller sent me some pictures and I decided to buy. I knew a collector in the seller's city and he picked it up tonight. All metal serial numbers matching including electro-pencil parts. Stock has been sanded and refinished but you can see original stamps faintly. I will be receiving SKS next week and will be posting better quality pictures then.
https://ibb.co/album/1bJtM0

I was sent a picture of rifle last night. Shows the bluing better with the proper lighting and use of a better camera.

[Hotrod]

Looks pretty nice. I like the single digit serial. 

[Phosphorus32]

Cool  Looking forward to more pictures of SNs, stock ferrule, bolt, etc. Congratulations 

[Greatguns]

Interesting that it has the later 45° transition gas block instead of the 90° gas block that you would expect.

[Cz315]

Interesting that it has the later 45° transition gas block instead of the 90° gas block that you would expect.

Yep, that list of 1950 transitions in the other thread just got longer.

Nice catch, jstin2!

[jstin2]

I was sent a few more pictures of 50.
https://ibb.co/album/XyNBtN

[running-man]

I have two guns with ИM prefix and transitional '50 characteristics in the database:

ИM9, gun has been bubba'd




Stock is clearly a blade bayo stock, though unknown if it matches the gun or not.



ИM349, this is a Russian "Sneak"







Stock is an XXX'd replacement stock, but is clearly a Tula stock.  Blade bayo is there.


Not terribly much we can really say, if these 2 ever had spikes they were removed long ago. 
Both have 45° gas blocks though so that's a good indication all the ИM guns did.

Going to be very interesting to see what the stock is marked with when jstin2 gets the gun in hand.

[jstin2]

running-man, The second last picture shows that the stock ferrule is pinned at the top, so it was built for a blade bayonet. The production line may have started with spike bayonets and when they ran out continued on with the same lettering but with blades.  Stock ferrule and stock would also have to be changed.  Also from what I was told the stock on my fifty was sanded but you can faintly see the original serial numbers(same as rifle). From the pictures that were shown to me, I cannot be sure. I will take some pictures when I receive the rifle.

[running-man]

Second ferrule is definitely top pinned you're right.  Once you get it in hand and can really give it a good look we'll be able to dissect it a bit better.   

[jstin2]

I have one picture of the stock and added it to album. It was stamped after refinishing, but you can see part of the old serial number. I do not have a picture of star or date. I should be able to get a better picture when I get the rifle.
https://ibb.co/album/1bJtM0

[jstin2]

running-man - I was looking carefully at the top ИM 9 and wondering if it might have a spike or blade stock ferrule. I have a spare blade stock, so I decided to try to fit it onto my EM 717. Took less than 2 minutes to modify. Cut off around 1/8 inch from stock that fits in ferrule(picture included in album). When I compared it to the picture you have, there is a good chance that your picture has a stock ferrule for a blade. I also tried a spike stock on blade barrel and there is about 1/8 gap.
https://ibb.co/album/sp3dbT

[jstin2]

I received my 50 today and took some pictures. There are still a few more pictures that I need to take and will do that Thursday.

https://ibb.co/album/N9G70w

[pcke2000]

I received my 50 today and took some pictures. There are still a few more pictures that I need to take and will do that Thursday.

https://ibb.co/album/N9G70w

Very nice! And the ep'd letter 'm' looks good!

[running-man]

running-man - I was looking carefully at the top ИM 9 and wondering if it might have a spike or blade stock ferrule. I have a spare blade stock, so I decided to try to fit it onto my EM 717. Took less than 2 minutes to modify. Cut off around 1/8 inch from stock that fits in ferrule(picture included in album). When I compared it to the picture you have, there is a good chance that your picture has a stock ferrule for a blade. I also tried a spike stock on blade barrel and there is about 1/8 gap.
https://ibb.co/album/sp3dbT

Good comparison, I'd say you're right on with this one.  The spike ferrules will always leave a bit of stock hanging over as that's how they were intended to be fitted, so unless that blade stock on ИM9 was shaved down considerably, it wouldn't be even.

I wish I had better photos of that one but those are it.

[running-man]

I received my 50 today and took some pictures. There are still a few more pictures that I need to take and will do that Thursday.

https://ibb.co/album/N9G70w

If you think of it, get a full photo of the bottom of the magazine (with or w/o external rivet for the spring on the follower).  I't still unclear from the photos thus far.

[jstin2]

Added more pictures. Also I noticed that the bayonet butts up against stock ferrule, it doesn't on my EM 717. ??
https://ibb.co/album/N9G70w

[pcke2000]

Added more pictures. Also I noticed that the bayonet butts up against stock ferrule, it doesn't on my EM 717. ??
https://ibb.co/album/N9G70w

Interesting. The stock on your newly purchased 1950 indeed looks correct for spike bayonet. The one on serial IM 349 doesn't.

[jstin2]

I mentioned that the stock on mine has been refinished and you can barely make out some of what was on there.
https://ibb.co/album/kgC8c7