"Egyptian Contract" Chinese SKS info and value?

[CuSks]

Thanks guys.

I've noticed the marketing softening some.  Some of the high market seemed to hit after Dallas, Orlando, Baton Rouge and the following gun legislation talk.  I think that has calmed down a bit.

I think that the market is back to normal now; this was just an overlooked gem.  That happened with my Ghost/Sterile as well.  There are so many Chinese out there that the rare one's get overlooked at times.

[martin08]

Excellent deal on one of the best conditioned carbines I've seen.  The CAI import mark means that it never left China for the Middle East.  Likely unissued.

[Loose}{Cannon]

Wait wait wait....  I think thats incorrect. 

Early CAI import markings on the barrel and NO norinco stamp means it DID come here from the ME and not China.

I dont see a norinco stamp anywhere on this gun....  Yet.

[Loose}{Cannon]

We likely wont know until he gets the rifle.  But if it says Norinco on the barrel along with the CAI stamps... It came here from China and not the ME. 

BUT, having said that... Its still just as collectable and value is unaffected.   

[CARBINE]

Here is my EC with the import mark, sounds like the same as the OP

[Loose}{Cannon]

Hmmm....  This is very interesting.  Carbines import mark actually says norinco, but it obviously made the trip.   Very strange.   Perhaps they added the norinco label at a certain point to even the guns imported from the ME?

This is the only one I have ever seen that made the trip and is marked norinco. 

[martin08]

Mine has the same Norinco and import stamp, but no other Arabic features.  Hmmm...

[Loose}{Cannon]

Maybe they all made the trip and 'some' were marked norinco simply because it was common practice for the ones received from china?  I know 99.9 present of guns showing obvious signs of being in the ME do not have Norinco stamped at all.   

[martin08]

This Norinco stamp which is found in the Middle East would place the timeline for at least a few of the exports from China much later than previously suspected - by about fifteen years.  That's a large swing!

[Loose}{Cannon]

I don't think so...

The norinco mark is part of the import stamp.  What I'm saying is, it had to have been appli to some of the later guns received from the ME.  If you look at the other imports from the same time period, they have the country AND location or factory marked.

[martin08]

So this would be a case of the 'profiling /stereotyping' of Chinese carbines by calling them Norinco, even though the construction and export  pre-dated the company, and likely had nothing to do with Norinco?  Makes sense.  I've been to many gun shows where the dealers call every Chinese SKS as Norinco.  I can see an importer doing the same thing.

[Loose}{Cannon]

This may very well show when cai started applying the name.   

Think 'cugir romania'.     Why not just say romania?    At some point in time they started applying 'norinco' to chinese guns they received.  I doubt it mattered where they actually came from.

These say china norinco.  Pretty well the same as with the Romanians etc.

[CuSks]

I tend to concur on the importer. They pay people poop to stamp these guns...hey another Chinese.  I have that one right here....STAMP.  You should see the stamp on my Ghost/Sterile.....

[Loose}{Cannon]

Sterile!?       

They reproduce all the time...   

[CuSks]

Sterile!?       

They reproduce all the time...   

And quicker than you'd expect!!! 

I picked her up today and broke her down.  Everything broke down pretty easily except for the hand guard, it did want to move.  I finally knocked a wooden block against it's metal base a few times and it came off.  I don't think that it has ever been removed.

The recoil spring, op-rod, unexposed barrel and unexposed hand guard areas are still covered in cosmoline.  She has been shot a bit; the op-rod extension is nasty.  The bore looks clean. There are signs of sand in the stock.  The only stamp I can see is on the barrel "CIA ST ALB VT"

I'll take some pics but it may be extensive.  Should I start a new thread or continue here?  It's time to pull out the mineral spirits.   

[Loose}{Cannon]

Oh for Pete's sakes.....   Atleast take pictures of the sand and goat hair before your strip the poor thing!!!! 


Seriously...  I want pics of this sand. 

[CuSks]

Sorry, spent about 2.5 hours cleaning her up.  Half of it was still coated in cosmoline, the other half was just neglected and dirty.  I didn't clean the internals of the stock but there are signs of sand; it's not a mound but it's there.  I want to strip her back down this weekend and make sure that I got everything.  I can try to get pics but I don't know if little specs of sand will show up.  Folks.......clean your rifles.

[martin08]

I have a hundred "shooters".  So if I get a gun with proper regional dirt/grit/grass/goat hair inside, it stays inside.  Preserve the historical grime!  Really.

[CuSks]

I have a hundred "shooters".  So if I get a gun with proper regional dirt/grit/grass/goat hair inside, it stays inside.  Preserve the historical grime!  Really.

I hear ya'.  In this case, she's been fired but not cleaned and properly oiled.  There were signs of surface rust starting in the receiver, the receiver cover, the barrel knuckles and the bottom of the gas tube. The gas tube was full of cosmoline, burned powder and rust residue.  I had to clean it up.  Now that I look with more light, I don't think that it was sand I was seeing.  I think it's just light debrit from where the stock was cut.  I'll get some pics up later.

[CuSks]

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