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Unusual Letter SKS Question

Started by montigre, August 09, 2016, 06:42:32 PM

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running-man

Hell sometimes it doesn't even take that much Hippie!

GM (aka the enabler): Hey did you see that CZ82 for sale over on gubcoards?
Me: No, I really don't have the $$ for it anyhow.  Best not to look.
GM: Ok, whatever floats your boat.
Me: Thanks!
GM (about 5 minutes later): It's probably gone by now anyhow.
GM (after another 5 minutes): One heck of a deal for the guy that will get it though!  Maybe next time for you!
Me: Logging onto gunbroker to just take a little look at who bought it.  Noticing that no it hasn't been bought yet (dammit), yes it is a darn nice one (dammit), and yes it is a good deal from a seller I trust (damn damn!).  Then spending the rest of the night thinking up ways to not get divorced when the wife finds out I just dropped $300 out of the blue on a firearm I hadn't even mentioned in passing to her before.

      

armedhippie

 rofl rofl rofl chuckles1 chuckles1

I know right?  rofl

Get him and Phos together and its like having the lil angel and the lil devil on your shoulders but...they're both telling you to get the same thing  fart1
Hippies are like stray cats...Feed 'em once and they never leave...then they stink up your couch.

rwhite135

The worst is when you can't drive and the wife has to take you everywhere.  That's the boat I'm in right now. When you want to stop in at the LGS, she's right over your shoulder telling you that, "No, you cannot have the SKS M." "No, I don't care how rare it may be." "I said no, now pick either the one for $350 or the one for $375." "I'm going to go wait in the car and if you come out with that SKS M or both of the cheaper guns, you're going to have a very long walk home on those crutches." That was the day I bought the /0130b\.

Greasemonkey

Mwhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!   I ain't that bad fellas..

One must fight temptation, be strong, be stable, resist  rofl2 Just like I was when faced with a PolyTech M14.. Ok, I failed, but....
Everything I fail at, you all must be better, able to walk away, I try to show you the way, help with your rehab, but everyone falls of the wagon, and for some reason, when I fall off, the wagon runs over me, I ain't figured that out yet... Besides, you will end up like me, way to many...toys, no room, a wife that beats you severely everytime you buy something.
And, hey, at least I find juicy nice good stuff, not some chewed up bubba rawhide bone :)
Now, where locally can I find a Romanian SKS for some Hippie like fella, maybe a another Type 53, and OMG...another Tokarev,   thumb1 chuckles1
I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse......

Leave the gun, take the cannoli.

I said I was an addict........I didn't say I had a problem

pcke2000

another example of this weird s/n stamping on stock:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Russian-SKS-Wood-Stock-RIFLE-Buttplate-Assembly-Sling-Swivel-IZHEVSK-/252512255993?hash=item3acae73ff9:g:NWkAAOSw65FXvoov

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Loose}{Cannon

Meh...  The auctions rule is more geared towards complete guns.
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

running-man

Quote from: pcke2000 on August 26, 2016, 11:20:32 AM
another example of this weird s/n stamping on stock:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Russian-SKS-Wood-Stock-RIFLE-Buttplate-Assembly-Sling-Swivel-IZHEVSK-/252512255993?hash=item3acae73ff9:g:NWkAAOSw65FXvoov

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I wouldn't say this type of XXX-ing while leaving the date untouched is weird.  I think it was standard practice for the Russians to leave stocks that were in generally good shape un-sanded where they didn't have to work them.  This is one reason that going solely off something like crossbolt stamps to determine if a gun is 'unrefurbished/unissued/unfired' fails so badly and gets a good many collectors into trouble.  You have to take these things combined with the rest of the stock/gun to even try to make a determination.  Even then, there are some that are just so nicely done that it's impossible to do anything beyond making a guess.
      

pcke2000

Quote from: running-man on August 26, 2016, 01:15:23 PM

I wouldn't say this type of XXX-ing while leaving the date untouched is weird.  I think it was standard practice for the Russians to leave stocks that were in generally good shape un-sanded where they didn't have to work them.  This is one reason that going solely off something like crossbolt stamps to determine if a gun is 'unrefurbished/unissued/unfired' fails so badly and gets a good many collectors into trouble.  You have to take these things combined with the rest of the stock/gun to even try to make a determination.  Even then, there are some that are just so nicely done that it's impossible to do anything beyond making a guess.

No, RM, the weird stamping I was talking about is the circle around the new stamped number (similar to OP's rifle)

running-man

Ahhhh! Now the light bulb goes on, it's still early (well that my excuse anyhow)

Ivan must have hit those larger than normal stamps pretty hard, making an impression from the stamp relief that should not normally be seen:


I've seen some pretty large stamps used on Russian stocks, this one is almost twice as large as the original S/N stamp:
      

montigre

Quote from: running-man on August 26, 2016, 01:15:23 PM
I wouldn't say this type of XXX-ing while leaving the date untouched is weird.  I think it was standard practice for the Russians to leave stocks that were in generally good shape un-sanded where they didn't have to work them.  This is one reason that going solely off something like crossbolt stamps to determine if a gun is 'unrefurbished/unissued/unfired' fails so badly and gets a good many collectors into trouble.  You have to take these things combined with the rest of the stock/gun to even try to make a determination.  Even then, there are some that are just so nicely done that it's impossible to do anything beyond making a guess.

This makes sense.  In the case of my '54 lightly refurbed Tula, the Russians actually used another 1954 stock to match the other 1954 parts of the gun. The stock had been lightly sanded and the original SN XXX'd out, but you could still vaguely see the date stamp and arsenal mark on the butt stock as well as some of the cross bolt markings (in the right light).  I had no idea they would go through such effort when refurbing-- this is impressive.
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