Request for some examples of 12 thru 1.5 mil /26\s

Started by running-man, July 27, 2015, 02:47:36 PM

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running-man

Laff slacker!  :P

Ok so we have:
A bunch of 1.4 mils from non /26\ arsenals.
A "I've seen them over the past 6 years but don't have any photos"
and I've got a single photo of a 14 mil receiver only:



C'mon guys, this is downright embarrassing! :)
      

Power Surge


running-man

I know Sal, I know!  thumb1

Here's food for thought.  If they turn out to be really tough to find (not saying they are, but man only one photo of a 14 in my 1000's of them?!), maybe they are 1.4 mils after all (and the last "1" in the image above is an exporter/importer added mark).  If that's the case, 24,237 is the high for this series, not 242k and finding them would be akin to finding a 1.5 mil /26\.

We're bound to find something now that eyes are looking for 'em though.  dance1
      

Power Surge

What about what I mentioned about the 0296 m21 guns? They are supposedly dated 1970, but have all the 78/79 features like french tickler and inverted lever?

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Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on July 29, 2015, 03:36:27 PM
Welp....  There is atleast 117k of them





That "14"  sure looks like it was stamped at a different time than the rest of that serial, doesn't it?

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running-man

#28
Quote from: Power Surge on July 29, 2015, 03:26:24 PM
What about what I mentioned about the 0296 m21 guns? They are supposedly dated 1970, but have all the 78/79 features like french tickler and inverted lever?

There's nothing in those features that disqualifies the 0296 M21s from being a 1970.  We're seeing the inverted takedown levers as early as 12 mil /26\ on and the french tickler style handguard was originally used on T63s much earlier than 23/24 mil /26\s:




Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on July 29, 2015, 03:36:27 PM
Welp....  There is atleast 117k of them
Nice!  I knew I could count on you.   thumb1

Quote from: Power Surge on July 29, 2015, 03:46:53 PM
That "14"  sure looks like it was stamped at a different time than the rest of that serial, doesn't it?
The 14 is indeed different than the rest, but that is not unlike the 10, 11's, 12's, 13's etc.  Remember that the receiver is the *only* place that the millions (and sometimes even the hundred thousands) digits are located.  They could easily have been stamped long before the rifle was manufactured assembled, or could have been stamped with it as a final step after final checkout.  It's not a stretch to say it was not stamped with the rest of the S/N, but based on some of the year codes we've seen with spaces between them and the rolling number, this is not unusual in the least like LC says.
      

running-man

#29
Quote from: bbush44 on July 29, 2015, 04:05:30 PM
Here's a 12-/26\
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=497640815

Nice Brian, S/N 122407XX with an original takedown lever.  thumb1

Highest 12 mil with the original takedown is still 122461XX.

Lowest with the inverted lever is still 122911XX for a spread of about 45k guns.

It'll be interesting to see if they transitioned like the 3 million /26\ side swivels (all over the place, jumping S/N blocks, with no real rhyme or reason until permanent transition occurs with the letter series) or if it changed and stuck after 122XXXXX S/N.
      

Loose}{Cannon

Perhaps all 14m were inverted, but I swaer I have seen some non inverted.   :-\

Here is a 26 1.5 and two 326 1.5s...  I'm confident 326 was one of the locations that took  over production in 1970. Nothing inverted on these 1970 guns.





      
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Loose}{Cannon

Gimme an hr to get off work and I'll break it down.
      
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Quote from: Power Surge on July 29, 2015, 07:35:32 PM
How about this 14mil? Looks like a 23/24...  http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=498089372

Welp..   This is a 1.4 1969 arsenal /256\ and it has more in common with the similar erra late m21 and /26\ guns because of the inverted lever and the date.  This 1.4 was either a: reworked prior to import using the french fickler, or b: bubba added it when he cut the bayo lug.  We know from pics of crate-fresh 256 guns that they likely did not originally have a french fickler. The same can be said for some 23/24m /26\ guns that do not have a french fickler.....  wood was added during rework.  Just like a two piece gastube, dont be surprized to see something used on a gun 'out of the norm'.

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running-man

#34
1.4 mil /256\, regular takedown, no notch on original stock, wood handguard:




1.5 mil /256\, regular takedown, no notch on original stock, wood handguard:


      

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Loose}{Cannon

      
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Power Surge

Notice that the ones with the inverted levers seem to be bring backs?

Loose}{Cannon

Quote from: Power Surge on July 30, 2015, 12:35:56 AM
Notice that the ones with the inverted levers seem to be bring backs?

No...  I have ones on the guide that are not... Your 1.4 256 is not... All 23/24m are not.
      
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