Loading stripper clips for SHTF with this ammo ?

[Direct Connection]

Hello. I never here of anybody loading X39 striper clips with soft point ammo. Is it because cost ? is there a downfall to running a bunch of led tip ammo in shtf ?  Less accutrate ? To heavy ? Whats your thoughts ? Would you use it for shtf ? Couldnt it do more damage then FMJ ?

SG ammo has Brown Bear 125 gr sp.  I was thinking of getting me some of that.. 

http://www.sgammo.com/product/brown-bear/500-round-case-762x39-brown-bear-125-grain-soft-point-ammo-poly-coated-case

[Power Surge]

There's been videos online testing FMJ, HP, and soft tip 7.62x39 ammo in ballistic gel, and it definitely doesn't work like you'd think. Actually, it didn't do anything more than HP, which ironically also didn't do much more than FMJ. None of them had any expansion.

[Dannyboy53]

DC other than poor expansion if any at all (my experience) their isn't a problem with loading your stripper clips with it. But as Power Surge said, don't expect much out of them.

[Direct Connection]

Ok I see, Why spend more for no reason.. I don't know about other states but if we here in Ca,want to hunt with x39 we must use the SP.. I have about 100 rounds of it and it will probably stay that way..  Thanks PS and Big D 

[Phosphorus32]

Here's a video on the silver bear. I'm guessing, the different grades all have the same bullets. Single shot in this video and the jacket separated 



...and Golden Bear from The Ammo Channel, which I really like.  Three shots total and the soft point just flattened without expanding (about 5:00 into the video). I guess the jacket is too strong. If it's copper washed steel jacket, would say that explains it. Need softer true copper alloy jacket and maybe some weakening grooves to get the lead core to expand and open up the jacket

[Greasemonkey]

Ok... think for a second.... I mean 30-30 Win soft point expands fine on a deer, I've dug several plumped up expanded 'ol Win Powerpoints out some whitetail azz, it's ballisticlly pretty close to a x39, bullet weight aside, but yet a x39 SP or HP won't expand in jelly.

A .30-30 Win PowerPoint uses a soft copper jacket and soft lead, now whats the composition of that x39 jacket and or lead...copper coated/washed steel, some kind of crappy hardened copper alloy, hardened copper won't flex like soft copper, Those SP and HP bullets are FMJ with it's tip chopped off exposing some kind of hard lead alloy, and being called a soft point/hollow point to get around the FMJ hunting regs? Also, is the Commie bullet jacket designed to support expansion, like modern American hunting bullets with notched, partitioned and contoured jackets.

Stripper clips don't know or care what the bullet is, long as it slides down into the mag when pressed and feeds when the action cycles, use it.

I'm sure in a SHTF situation, kinda like a deer, whatever ain't gonna know the difference if it were a FMJ, SP or HP coming out the end of the barrel, whatever knows it's gonna hurt and make a hole. The big question to ask... is will your weapon of choice feed whatever you feed it without failure, feed flawless, feed consistent with no jams, F-T-F or F-T-E, that is something to find out well before the turds are a flying

Just my .00000002 cents worth..

[Phosphorus32]

The big question to ask... is will your weapon of choice feed whatever you feed it without failure, feed flawless, feed consistent with no jams, F-T-F or F-T-E, that is something to find out well before the turds are a flying

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"turds are a flying"    

How about the dreaded 4F situation; "fan-flinging fecal fragments" 

[Greasemonkey]

The big question to ask... is will your weapon of choice feed whatever you feed it without failure, feed flawless, feed consistent with no jams, F-T-F or F-T-E, that is something to find out well before the turds are a flying

+1

"turds are a flying"    

How about the dreaded 4F situation; "fan-flinging fecal fragments" 

Yeah... "turds are a flying".....thats the precursor to hitting the fan.......I mean, they gotta fly before they hit the fan, if they are flying, it's time to locked and loaded

The F4 situation is just after contact with said fan, really way to late to find your rifle won't feed....then your at the risk and mercy of the blade busting boom booms...

[firstchoice]

This is the Uly 8M3 "Effect" HP that does pretty good in the gel tests. Getting harder to find now, so I wouldn't go out and kill trees with it.



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