Has anybody ever analyzed rifles based on a Data Sheet?

[NuJudge]

Amongst particularly Garand collectors, they have fairly standard data sheets which they use to analyze a rifle.  I do not see such here, but do see particular matters discuss for particular types of SKS rifles.  How does this look for an unmodified Chinese rifle that I purchased about 1993? 


Serial Number: 
      Prefix and Serial Number:                                                    4-1809XXX
      Arsenal (Triangle/Rectange/other):                                     Upside down V on top of two A's,with under bar
      Suffix:                                                                                  M
      Approximate date of Mfg:                                                    ?

Finish (Blued/other):                                                                  Blued

Receiver (milled, cast, stamped):                                               Milled receiver
     Pocket in bottom bolt compartment::                                     
     Back of bolt compartment flat or convex:                           
     Receiver internal side pockets:                                             
     Take down lever tab on top or bottom:                               
     Take down lever spindle end round or flat:                         

Trigger group (milled/stamped):                                               Stamped & welded
      Trigger (stamped/forged):                                                   Stamped trigger 

Stock: 
     Material:                                                                              Probably Chou Wood
     Finish:                                                                                 Heavy orange-ish paint 
     Front Ferrule bayonet cut (none/U for spike/V for blade):     
     Bayo stock cut (blade/spike):                                                 Spike

Bayonet (yes/no):                                                                      No
     Type (blade/spike, & early/late):

Barrel
     Pinned/Threaded long lug/Threaded short lug):                                          (Transition to Pinned '68-'70)
     Barrel Length (Standard/Para): 
     Chrome lined:                                                                          Yes 
     Bayonet Lug (early/late/ball/none/neutered)
     Bayonet attachment (Rivet/Screw):                                           Screw 
     Bayonet:                                                                                   None

Rear Sight
     Battle Sight setting (n, D, 3 or III): 
     Base (Early, Middle, Late, Cast): 

Gas Tube
     1 or 2-piece:                                                                             
     Eletro-penciled Serial Number:

[Power Surge]

Lmao....you really need to spend a little time reading here. This entire site is based off what you're asking....

Edit -  sorry, I didn't realize you were looking for a type of sheet with all the details on it. There's just way too much info out there to compile on a sheet like that.

[XXXSKS]

There is way to much information on arsenals, dating and serial numbers to creat a simple data sheet.

Your description of the triangle is not familiar to us. You need to post clear pics of the rifle and the information stamped on the receiver.

. ..............Joe

[Power Surge]

From the serial and info you posted, I am almost 100% positive you have what we used to refer to as an 0406b arsenal gun.

Check out this thread and see if that's what you have. You'll find lots of info there on it!

http://sks-files.com/index.php?topic=154.0

[Loose}{Cannon]

Judge...

Try this..  go to the chinese board and look at the top just before the list of threads. You will see a whole other section to go into called 'arsenal component onfigurations'.

http://sks-files.com/index.php?board=87.0

In that section you will see a sticky....  http://sks-files.com/index.php?topic=1788.0

Read that sticky, then create a new thread in that section and list all your rifles components using the example template in that sticky.  Also post plenty of pictures of said rifle showing all said components, and we will move the information to the proper arsenal configuration page for that arsenal.   

I would also recommend running your chinese sks rifles through the Chinese sks survey. 

[NuJudge]

Very interesting.  Lots of variation in additional parts, especially the gas block. 

I think it would be useful to have someone more knowledgeable do up a data sheet. 

[Power Surge]

Very interesting.  Lots of variation in additional parts, especially the gas block. 

I think it would be useful to have someone more knowledgeable do up a data sheet.

Did you really just say that??

[Greasemonkey]

Very interesting.  Lots of variation in additional parts, especially the gas block. 

I think it would be useful to have someone more knowledgeable do up a data sheet.

Did you really just say that??

Sounded like it...maybe, he meant "You all think it's a good idea" or "ever considered changing your methods"?  I mean..... to basically say we are not knowledgeable, the opposite of "someone more knowledgeable" is a bit rude....

Now did we just get called for lack of better terms.....stupid?

Im in nice mode...at the moment, you hold the key to where this goes

[NuJudge]

I'm not saying that I want someone more knowledgeable than you do a data sheet, I'm saying someone more knowledgeable than me draw up a data sheet. 

I've owned 5 or 6 of these rifles, all purchased about the same time, all with very similar features. 

[Power Surge]

I'm not saying that I want someone more knowledgeable than you do a data sheet, I'm saying someone more knowledgeable than me draw up a data sheet. 

I've owned 5 or 6 of these rifles, all purchased about the same time, all with very similar features.

Ahhh...gotcha. Well, as previously stated, there's just way too much variances for something as simple as a data sheet.

You've got different countries of manufacture, all with their own differences. Then you have different models of SKS within those countries, all with their own differences. Then in the case of the Chinese, you have 50+ years of manufacturer, and dozens of aresnals, each with their own differences. Then you have all the commercial models, etc, etc.

I would wind up being a book, not a sheet. And we are still finding new info to this day.

[Greasemonkey]

Alright then..I'll put the spoon down and ease my hackles, now you have clarified yourself

Dont worry about a "data sheet".. Pictures speak volumes, data sheets are boring, stooge methods of explaination.. There is stuff one might miss on "data sheets", pictures tell the story better than words, we form and gather data based off pictures.... which is why pictures are always asked for.....besides we like pictures. 

LC provided ways to enter data... It's easy 

[running-man]

Hi Judge, welcome to the boards! 

Don't fret about these guys busting your chops, we've all got the same goal here: to learn.  I would remind them that they were new once too.

I had actually considered making up a single sheet like GCA uses for Garands.  I even posted these images a while back (can't seem to find the actual post or I'd link it, it seems we've finally gotten big enough that I'm losing things  ):





I'd have loved it to work out, but I never really got around to generating anything for the Chinese as we have the ARSENAL COMPONENT CONFIGURATIONS board that LC pointed out.  To make a universal one for all SKSs would be quite the undertaking and I doubt would fit on a single page like some have mentioned.  There are simply too many different configurations amongst the various nationalities and quite frankly, I don't have the time needed to flesh it out right now.  Maybe one day though, it's a good idea and I appreciate the input.     

As an aside, you most certainly have an /?5\ gun (or /0306\ or /0406\ if you're looking at other sites). 



They are nice well built guns.  Year 15 and 16 had short lugs, 17 and 18 had pinned barrels.  I'm behind, I don't have any of these in the Arsenal Config yet even though we've identified quite a bit about them...