Stamped safety recess numbers?

[Justin Hell]

I recently acquired a 1967 59/66 that I am still getting the cosmo out of, has anyone heard of stamped numbers where you normally would see pencil in the recess for the safety latch?  I haven't seen that before and anywhere I am allowed to go on the internet doesn't seem to mention this.

Aside from cosmo removal, I also have a crack to repair, and just wanted to know how careful to be if this is an odd trait.  Anyone?

I was thinking of fixing the long crack, which goes with the grain from mid bolt carrier diagonally towards the safety recess, with super glue from the inside of the stock maybe using a syringe...to minimize external bleed through...does super glue stick to cosmo soaked wood?  It is such a thin crack, I fear epoxy might expand and make it more visible. I also don't want to gunk it up with something that won't work.

A pic for your gandering....

[Loose}{Cannon]

Seen the pencil... Not the stamped. Is it part of the serial or lug number?

[Justin Hell]

Seen the pencil... Not the stamped. Is it part of the serial or lug number?

That helps clarify things a little...it is 854 stamped upside down...the four is pretty hard to determine and the 8 and 5 inverted could be 85 or 58

It is actually a matching number to the underside of the receiver and barrel lug.  The serial is D-57785 and it is a true 59/66 no night sight upgrades, and doesn't appear to have ever had anything other than a couple of inspections and perhaps a very light refurb. There is considerable bluing wear in areas that it would be held and on the GL and the mag is almost in the white...but shows little wear on the inside.  The butt pad shows considerable wear, and the crack makes me wonder if this was an Honor Guard's practice rifle?!  You would think they would give them something other than a rubber duck to get their moves down...perhaps an outdated early 59/66?  I doubt they would use the fancy ones until game day.

This is only my second Yugo so I am a little in the dark, my other is a Cherry's that just gets looked at long enough to get a partial chubby and I have to walk away.  I am kind of tempted to take her apart and see if her pencil mark matches her barrel and receiver...maybe someday. 

[Phosphorus32]

I usually just use wood glue to repair cracks, but of course if Cosmoline has gotten into the crack it's a bit problematic. I've sprayed brake cleaner into the crack before to try and leach out the surface oils/cosmo. Definitely also want to gently spread the crack somehow (without making it grow), so you can get the glue in to the surfaces to be bonded. If the surface of the stock still has Cosmo on it then water based wood glue will be easy to wipe off. 

Many of the super glues (cyanoacrylates) require water to activate them and expand upon curing.  Yes, I know this from direct experience      Fortunately, it was with a stock that was a cosmetic wreck anyhow, so no loss.  At least now it functions until I find a better stock.

[running-man]

That helps clarify things a little...it is 854 stamped upside down...the four is pretty hard to determine and the 8 and 5 inverted could be 85 or 58

It is actually a matching number to the underside of the receiver and barrel lug.  The serial is D-57785 and it is a true 59/66 no night sight upgrades, and doesn't appear to have ever had anything other than a couple of inspections and perhaps a very light refurb. There is considerable bluing wear in areas that it would be held and on the GL and the mag is almost in the white...but shows little wear on the inside.  The butt pad shows considerable wear, and the crack makes me wonder if this was an Honor Guard's practice rifle?!  You would think they would give them something other than a rubber duck to get their moves down...perhaps an outdated early 59/66?  I doubt they would use the fancy ones until game day.

This is only my second Yugo so I am a little in the dark, my other is a Cherry's that just gets looked at long enough to get a partial chubby and I have to walk away.  I am kind of tempted to take her apart and see if her pencil mark matches her barrel and receiver...maybe someday. 

That's very interesting, I've heard of various stamps on the stock at the safety cutout, but never seen one that was legible.  Just by the positioning, it certainly makes sense that it would be the assy match number taken from the barrel lug just like the pencil marks.   

So you've got a true M59/66.  There are not a ton of those out there.  In fact, most collectors have never even seen one and simply don't know that they haven't!  I know I've never held a true M59/66 in my hands, all the ones I've ever examined close up are A1's.  This one definitely fits into the interesting Yugo variant category.  Very neat rifle man! 

[Loose}{Cannon]

I agree....  Lets see that fsb with no flapper!   

[Justin Hell]

That helps clarify things a little...it is 854 stamped upside down...the four is pretty hard to determine and the 8 and 5 inverted could be 85 or 58

It is actually a matching number to the underside of the receiver and barrel lug.  The serial is D-57785 and it is a true 59/66 no night sight upgrades, and doesn't appear to have ever had anything other than a couple of inspections and perhaps a very light refurb. There is considerable bluing wear in areas that it would be held and on the GL and the mag is almost in the white...but shows little wear on the inside.  The butt pad shows considerable wear, and the crack makes me wonder if this was an Honor Guard's practice rifle?!  You would think they would give them something other than a rubber duck to get their moves down...perhaps an outdated early 59/66?  I doubt they would use the fancy ones until game day.

This is only my second Yugo so I am a little in the dark, my other is a Cherry's that just gets looked at long enough to get a partial chubby and I have to walk away.  I am kind of tempted to take her apart and see if her pencil mark matches her barrel and receiver...maybe someday. 

That's very interesting, I've heard of various stamps on the stock at the safety cutout, but never seen one that was legible.  Just by the positioning, it certainly makes sense that it would be the assy match number taken from the barrel lug just like the pencil marks.   

So you've got a true M59/66.  There are not a ton of those out there.  In fact, most collectors have never even seen one and simply don't know that they haven't!  I know I've never held a true M59/66 in my hands, all the ones I've ever examined close up are A1's.  This one definitely fits into the interesting Yugo variant category.  Very neat rifle man! 

I had read from withergylds old postings that the D-series both wasn't highly produced as later years...and most of them eventually got upgraded to A1s.  I really dig it, the sights are superb...and I usually can't see through irons very well.  I will do a full spread on her once I get her cleaned up....she was really caked.

I will see how much cosmo I can leech from the crack before deciding on the glue to use, I had thought about regular wood glue, since it would be the most likely to be removable if it didn't stick...I just fear she has been saturated in cosmo for so long it wouldn't hold up under fire.  The recoil lug should take the majority of the shock though right? I suspect the crack is from being dropped and compromised the wood, my Cherry's has what looks like could be the start of a similar problem if it ever got anything other than adoring glances...

I am learning neat stuff about these...this also has the early narrow bore ported GL, and I am curious how that affects accuracy vs. the later large bore non ported ones. The eleven times I shot my Cherry's, I was amazed by the accuracy...and then I felt shame. 

I think the extra weight lends to helping my lackluster shooting ability...these things are fun, but damn are there a lot of nooks and crannies to get the crud out of!

[SKhiSm 59-66A1]

I've never seen that before..a lot of them will have a single digit stamped at the grip that's almost always a 2 and not heavily stamped. I wonder if this is something they were doing for a time early in 59/66 production and discontinued the practice, or possibly it was done to set a particular rifle apart for some reason.

I had never realized there were any differences in the g/l bore, thanks.

It's interesting they did that, Kragujevac was not exactly lavish with differing stamps, and stocks probably least of all.

[Loose}{Cannon]

I would think if the number matches the barrel lug... It was to keep the stock matched to the action.. A tracking # during either new assembly or refurb.  Same as all the other numbers we see EPed that are not the serial and do match the lug.

[SKhiSm 59-66A1]

I've never seen that before..

Apparently I had, found this in my photobucket and kinda remember it now, from broker







I had it tagged "uncommon stamp"

[Justin Hell]

I wonder if it is a D thing?  It is only about 2k later than my serial. 

Another interesting thing is that it is a true non upgraded 59/66 too...it seems most eventually got the night sights during refurbishment. Perhaps some that didn't require a heavy refurb just got mothballed and eventually made it here unscathed?  It makes me question the running theory that if your stock exhibits the reinforcement screw close to the stock vs. recessed that it is a refurb....mine is level with the wood.

With the stamped number matching the barrel and receiver....and the number stamped on the underside rear of the receiver being impressed in the inverse into the wood on the stock...I dare say that this is an original stock. 

Once I get the dang crack fixed, pics will be forthcoming.

[K-9]

It is a very cool specimen... except for that damn stock crack!  I hope you got a discount for that!   

I assume it will look better than this "before" pic when you have it cleaned up?  It looks MUCH better in person, I think.  I bet that Yugo is happy it met you.  I sure hope it all works out well. 

[Justin Hell]

If I could get my camera to quit being funky I would hope the pics would be as nice.   The epoxy repair is taking its time, but so am I...the weather has been nuts here lately.  Imagine a tropical storm but with snow...not regular snow but what is known around here as groppel...it looks like the stuffing to an old bean bag chair...and 75 mph gusts propelling it.  Shooting it or photos of it anywhere appropriate are on hold until mother nature works out her cramps.

I got the most stellar discount imaginable due to that cracked stock...some guys have all the luck...I got more than one should ever expect having a buddy like K-9.