What do I have here?

[Jimipanic]

Picked this up from a raffle group. It’s a /26\ receiver and it’s cut down to a 16.5 bbl. it’s threaded and has a neutered bayo lug. The stock has a matching s/n and the bayo groove is not filled in. I think it’s a stateside cut down, vs a factory job. Any input is appreciated!

[echo1]

With the writing on the right side, I'd venture a Kengs Sport (KSI), although I can't make it out what it says. The Bubbafized parts do detract from the value somewhat, but it's still boss. If you take the bolt out are there one or two extra holes on the mount side? If so, likely the Choate mount replaced the "rail to nowhere". PAX

[firstchoice]

Hey Jimipanic! Looks good! PAX was correct in that it's a KSI import. I don't know if it had the "rail to nowhere" on it originally. Your barrel was definitely cut down here in the States. I don't know of any importer that cut the FSB down to the single pin size like that, but I have seen some home-spun jobs that do. It looks to have been fairly well machined. It's a short lug threaded barrel but looks to have been threaded on the muzzle end for a threaded adjustable brake, as well. I don't see a detent pin installed on the FSB. Is the brake tight? They may have loc-tite on it. Just be sure it's tight or has a detent.

A little cold blue can cover the machined spots on the FSB and barrel.

I like it. The stock has some nice grain to it. Good buy!

firstchoice

 

[astronut]

Nice looking SKS!   

[echo1]

Hey Jimipanic! Looks good! PAX was correct in that it's a KSI import. I don't know if it had the "rail to nowhere" on it originally. Your barrel was definitely cut down here in the States. I don't know of any importer that cut the FSB down to the single pin size like that, but I have seen some home-spun jobs that do. It looks to have been fairly well machined. It's a short lug threaded barrel but looks to have been threaded on the muzzle end for a threaded adjustable brake, as well. I don't see a detent pin installed on the FSB. Is the brake tight? They may have loc-tite on it. Just be sure it's tight or has a detent.
A little cold blue can cover the machined spots on the FSB and barrel.
I like it. The stock has some nice grain to it. Good buy!
firstchoice

I have 2 Kengs', one railed and one not. Both have only the FSB globe, single pin. The one without the rail also has the bayo channel filled in, blade I think??? The neatness of the cut and the writing on the right side was what told me it was likely a KSI.

A quick check inside the receiver will tell if it had "the rail", which without the fourth Choate mount screw, seems like it may have. I've got a Choate and tried to match it to my existing holes and stock cut, and that's what it pieced out like. I came up on a T89 package and modded the T89 mount instead. PAX

[Phosphorus32]

If the barrel was cut and threaded and the crown well-faced, all orthogonal to the bore axis, it should be a good shooter.

[Jimipanic]

Thanks fellas! I figured being a /26\ rifle it came in long before Navy arms started importing FFs and CCs. Considering I won it in a raffle, I’m more than tickled to have it. The brake is tight, I’m going to put a wrench to it to find out, more than hand tight for sure.

[echo1]

If the barrel was cut and threaded and the crown well-faced, all orthogonal to the bore axis, it should be a good shooter.

I've got some home grown Bubbas, 2 SARCO barreled actions cut to 18.5", and 1 pre Bubbad cut to 16.5". I left enough original barrel shank on the 18s so I could use a neutered front sight globe, the "Para" unit got a P50 front sight. All three have had the muzzles faced with a cutter, and an 11* target crown done. If I can get an annular cutter the same OD as the FSB ID, I'm going to give that a shot for a neutered FSB. It'll look factory that way. I used an annular to get the OD down to accept a left hand 14X1mm die, for a short threaded TriDelta brake. This little guy is in a green Butler Creek with a black Ramline HG. With the black recoil pad and black SKS sling, the whole works look pretty cool.  PAX

[Loose}{Cannon]

If the barrel was cut and threaded and the crown well-faced, all orthogonal to the bore axis, it should be a good shooter.

There ya go making me look up words again! 

[firstchoice]

If the barrel was cut and threaded and the crown well-faced, all orthogonal to the bore axis, it should be a good shooter.

There ya go making me look up words again!

Don't feel like the Lone Ranger, LC. It's not my first time looking up words that he uses, either! You just keep using those $.25 words P32!  I can use the education!    (No kidding. I enjoy it! It doesn't hurt to expand my vocabulary by a word or two, every year or so.  )

firstchoice

[firstchoice]

Hey Jimipanic! Looks good! PAX was correct in that it's a KSI import. I don't know if it had the "rail to nowhere" on it originally. Your barrel was definitely cut down here in the States. I don't know of any importer that cut the FSB down to the single pin size like that, but I have seen some home-spun jobs that do. It looks to have been fairly well machined. It's a short lug threaded barrel but looks to have been threaded on the muzzle end for a threaded adjustable brake, as well. I don't see a detent pin installed on the FSB. Is the brake tight? They may have loc-tite on it. Just be sure it's tight or has a detent.
A little cold blue can cover the machined spots on the FSB and barrel.
I like it. The stock has some nice grain to it. Good buy!
firstchoice

I have 2 Kengs', one railed and one not. Both have only the FSB globe, single pin. The one without the rail also has the bayo channel filled in, blade I think??? The neatness of the cut and the writing on the right side was what told me it was likely a KSI.

A quick check inside the receiver will tell if it had "the rail", which without the fourth Choate mount screw, seems like it may have. I've got a Choate and tried to match it to my existing holes and stock cut, and that's what it pieced out like. I came up on a T89 package and modded the T89 mount instead. PAX

PAX is correct on the KSI single pin FSB's. I stand corrected. I just ran across this KSI imported (0974) arsenal rifle that looks identical the the OP's gun other than the threaded muzzle with brake installed.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/847247871




I'm not sure if that was a California thing with the single pin FSB, or not. So many variations. Never say never when it comes to the SKS. Good eye PAX!

I have a Kengs import with the "West Coast Rail" or "Rail To Nowhere", as they were also called. Mine has the standard length barrel, neutered FSB, and non-filled bayo groove, matching SN stock. It's an all-matching SN, arsenal /156\ specimen. It's the ones with the star in front of the SN on the side of the stock. They didn't use any type of detent to retain the cleaning rod after neutering the FSB. The cleaning rod doesn't fall out when handling the rifle, but I don't know if it would fall out when firing it. I haven't fired this one.




firstchoice

[Phosphorus32]

If the barrel was cut and threaded and the crown well-faced, all orthogonal to the bore axis, it should be a good shooter.

There ya go making me look up words again!

[running-man]

Is there anything tying Kengs out of Atlanta, GA to KSI out of Pomona, CA?  I believe they are two different companies with very little in common (but I’ve been very wrong before).  I want to say that KSI and CSI maybe are related in some way but I’ll have to go find my notes when I generated the importers list. Probably should do that anyhow since I need to add a few entries to the Chinese and Yugo lists. 

[Greasemonkey]

I think KSI is K-Sports Imports in Pomona Cali..   CSI is China Sports Importers.
kSI info
Entity Number   C1497137
Entity Type   Domestic Stock
Jurisdiction   CA
Incorporation Date   20 May 1991 (28 years, 7 months ago)
Last Statement Filed   2 June 1997 (22 years, 6 months ago)
Address
2755 Thompson Creek Rd,
Pomona Ca 91767

Jurisdiction
California

Agent
William Lin

Agent Address
2755 Thompson Creek Rd,
Pomona Ca 91767

[echo1]

To me, the Kengs Hunters are the cleanest Paratrooper conversions. To quote powersurge: " When K-Sports negotiated this batch of rifles from China they got the front sight block right". Did I mention I luvs me some Paratroopers  , PAX

[Larry D.]

You guys better stop or I'm gonna start obsessing over a paratrooper........

And that would be wrong...... I think.....maybe.....

[Greasemonkey]

You guys better stop or I'm gonna start obsessing over a paratrooper........

And that would be wrong...... I think.....maybe.....

Wrong? Huh ....well yeah...I ended up with 2 accidentally.. the Type 84 and the SKSNR. Screw it...why not, they are all family.