Missing serial Prefix on receiver cover?

Started by Boris Badinov, August 28, 2017, 09:14:07 PM

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Boris Badinov

See Photo number 18:

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/688712696

Is this a possible humped surplus firearm, or is the absence of a cyrillic prefix just an unucommon trait on as-issued and/or refurb guns?

This seller seems rather frequently to get their hands on some highly desireable surplus firearms. So many in fact that I have begun to doubt the veracity of many of their posts. --Last week they had a 13th year (974) listed as a bringback due to lack of import stamps.

newchi

My assumption is, he knows someone in canada who comes down to go 'hunting' with a $200 sks and goes home with a cmp garand, good deal for both partys.  Who then sell both guns and do the same next time.
But i am a distrusting bastard.

Boris Badinov

Quote from: newchi on August 28, 2017, 09:26:03 PM
My assumption is, he knows someone in canada who comes down to go 'hunting' with a $200 sks and goes home with a cmp garand, good deal for both partys.  Who then sell both guns and do the same next time.
But i am a distrusting bastard.

I considered this too, with a lot of non-import stamped, SKS45's from many different sellers. But don't all of the Canadian guns have the modified, 5 round restricted mags with the garrish frankenstein welds and pins externally visible on the magazine? 


And I'm still curious about the missing cyrillic prefix to the serial number on the receiver cover...

running-man

Non-Cyrillic marked cover is quite uncommon, but not unprecedented. I'll see if I can dig up some examples tomorrow when I'm at the CPU. 

The no import stamp is more of a head scratcher. Might be a early CAI marking on the reciver cover that was subsequently swapped out and then bubba stamped with a 'matching' number. I think that's unlikely though. More likely is a missed import stamp or it might also be an Israeli Capture CAI gun from either Canada (no stamp, 10 round nag I believe) or the US (tiny CAI ST A stamp easily missed on underside of barrel) as well. dntknw1
      

Boris Badinov

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Thanks RC--

I was looking up close at a magnified pic of the magazine (pic #12), and it looks like there could be something funky going on where you would expect to see the franken-weld on the Canadian carbines--- along the lines of newchi's speculation (or I could just be paranoid). And it seems a bit suspicious that pic #12 is edited to omit the area where the five round limiting pin/rivet usually protrudes.

Also, I'm assuming the omitted prefixes would be on refurbs?

Loose}{Cannon

I don't think IC...  Looks like and older CA import to me. 
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

newchi

Some of the pining is done very nicely and the rivet could be easily removed and just left with a hole, or just remove the block on the inside somehow.

I speculate on the sks down garand back theory because if i was brave enough (and had someone to buy garands for me) i would do it once a week during hunting season and make serious coin, but im chicken of getting in trouble somehow.

newchi

So a quick look in my insurance photos shows 2 nicely pinned guns and one invisible from the outside.
Ill take a look inside when i get home tonight.




running-man

Here you go, found one in the E's after only a couple mins searching.  I'm sure there are others.  It's a '54 Izhevsk alright, but that cover's been scrubbed.  thumb1

Likely the same thing happened to the one you found Boris.  That gun would automatically get called a light 'furb in the survey due to the stock (wrong finish / missing S/N), but the receiver cover is another ding against it being as-issued too.














Early .ca import prior to the 5 pin mag rules...that's a very distinct possibility. 
      

Boris Badinov

Thanks for the photos, RM--

I can't recall having ever seen this prefix omission on a Soviet gun until yesterday. And now again on this Izhevsk.

Good to know.