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Is Super-grade a Super-scam?

Started by newchi, February 17, 2017, 07:16:50 PM

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newchi

After discovering my "SUPER-grade"  SKS wasnt as super as i thought. Although i always did refer to it as my 'fake' SKS because the stock was just too smooth, and kinda oddly varnished.
http://sks-files.com/index.php?topic=3047.0
I decide to look on the interwebs for others (My much coveted Izzy is also a superfake) cry1

Heres a few pics.

1) I wont show the numbers on the stock and i hope you wont notice the varnish runs on the wrist.
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2) There is nothing suspicious about fresh varnish runs, move along, move along.
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3)Smooth as a baby's bottom and looks like it was stamped yesterday.
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4)  Lets stamp some numbers and spray bomb some varnish over it for those Canadian suckers.



Now, i don't know who is doing this  bat1 or if its before the go in the crate for Canada or once they get here. But for those who like the history aspect it kinda removes something. (not just the old numbers). ireful1
Thoughts?

pcke2000

I am not an expert and I do not have official evidence. However, to me, these stamps look very different from those made at original Soviet arsenals or refurb facilities.

Like what I have mentioned on this forum, some Russian SKS's sold in Canada are a big myth.

running-man

Any idea who imported these into Canada newchi?  Almost every gun on Westrifle's page looks a good bit like these...

I wonder if in 20 years after the supply truly has dried up, whether these will find some niche as 'commercial' type variants? 
      

Loose}{Cannon

I bet this is just how they have evolved in their refurb process.  What we are used to seeing was old school done right and these are slap it on the butt and toss it on a ship?
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

newchi

'SuperGrade' have been sold everywhere up here, Cabellas, Wholesale Sports (where i got mine) and many of the online stores.  Some say Molot is the importer, i am actually going to email a couple of places and ask.  I know North Sylva was an importer of SKS's at one point as thats what the label said on the box.
It still could be that the very last that were put away were refurbed in a newer, half assier, way and these are those ones.

Flyer from Dec 2015, you can add $50 now i believe.


Quote from: running-man on February 17, 2017, 09:37:39 PM
I wonder if in 20 years after the supply truly has dried up, whether these will find some niche as 'commercial' type variants? 
You still see them in use in Ukraine, a tiny few in Syria.  I know the salt mines at Soledar held lots before all the fighting.



running-man

I will forever look at Canadian Russian SKSs with one eyebrow raised.  Too many shennanigans for my liking, so much so that I've created a separate category for the Canadian guns I run across so I can cull them (if needed) from the record when looking for specimens with specific features. 

Stuff like this, you just have to shake your head a bit:


Yes that is an amber laminate stock, with a 1949 cartouche on it, with a partial S/N (they left off the ГИ prefix) over an older partially sanded off S/N (you can still see a Б).  Obviously a humped gun designed to make the absolute most of a 'matching' 1949 SKS45.

Shennanigans = caveat emptor.
      

newchi

Im certainly going to steer clear of supergrades (from now on) until i know for sure what they are.
And i would never buy a 1949 spike unless it was over the counter from a big box store where the minimum wage guy working there doesn't know or care what it is.
That font on the 220 screams supergrade to me now.
If you guys were still getting Russian sks's they would be doing the same thing to you too.  Anything for a nickle these days.
Its just like the ex sniper mosins with spare scopes and mounts added back on.