What makes the "Big Three: the big three?

Started by montigre, July 20, 2016, 05:46:25 PM

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montigre

As a newb (boy, that's getting old....) I can see the historical importance of the Russian produced SKSs as the "Papa san" of these carbines, and the non-commercial Chinese as the "Mama san" and the Vietnamese due to our involvement in that war, but what causes the East German and North Korean SKSs to gain more notoriety than these others?

Inquiring minds want to know....
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Greasemonkey

Neither were ever officially imported and usually a bring back, so very low numbers in the US and high demand raises prices sky high.
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running-man

Like GM says: Rare and unusual.  With only ~100 to 150 of the big three documented in the US, they are hard to find and don't change hands very often.  They are not better built or shoot better than any other SKS, in fact many North Korean type 63's trend towards the poorer side of things. 

It boils down to supply and demand.  Supply of the big three is almost totally inelastic (very few available at any given time along with no new ones being produced/imported) and any increase in demand pushes the curve up resulting in much higher prices.  At those higher prices, maybe one or two additional units become available in the open market.  Then the cycle starts over again.

In reality, once the recent Chinese & Yugo imports are done, all SKSs will be in this same regime, though the slope of these supply curves will be far less than the almost vertical inelastic curves of the big three because there are more of them already here.

      

Phosphorus32

Nice supply-demand curves for the Microeconomics 101 lesson from Professor RM  :)  :))

I've seen the case for DDR and NK and NV property marked SKSs stated more emphatically, such that bringbacks from Vietnam are the only way these big three SKSs are known to have entered into the US.

running-man

Quote from: Phosphorus32 on July 20, 2016, 06:56:21 PM
Nice supply-demand curves for the Microeconomics 101 lesson from Professor RM  :)  :))

Yeah, I actually minored in Econ. It's useful every once in a while!  :-[
      

montigre

Thanks, I really appreciate the lesson!!   clap1

Willing to put in the work to lose this newb moniker...... 8)
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Loose}{Cannon

Laff...   I dunno what I'm looking at RM but it looks bad..... very very... bad. 
      
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Greasemonkey

Gee whiz Wally... I shoulda just Googled fancy smancy economics chart and posted it. rofl2

So basically...

Equilibrium price must necessarily increase but the change in equilibrium quantity will depend on the magnitude of the shifts and the relative elasticities of supply and demand.

Or something like that  thumb1
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Leave the gun, take the cannoli.

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Phosphorus32

Quote from: Greasemonkey on July 20, 2016, 11:22:39 PM
Gee whiz Wally... I shoulda just Googled fancy smancy economics chart and posted it. rofl2

So basically...

Equilibrium price must necessarily increase but the change in equilibrium quantity will depend on the magnitude of the shifts and the relative elasticities of supply and demand.

Or something like that  thumb1

...but stochasticity associated with spikes in serum testosterone and/or ethanol concentrations of male consumers seeking to acquire one of the magna tribus (big 3) may disturb the equilibrium price causing an upward deflection for particular examples thus increasing the standard deviation...

Greasemonkey

Quote from: Phosphorus32 on July 20, 2016, 11:43:26 PM
Quote from: Greasemonkey on July 20, 2016, 11:22:39 PM
Gee whiz Wally... I shoulda just Googled fancy smancy economics chart and posted it. rofl2

So basically...

Equilibrium price must necessarily increase but the change in equilibrium quantity will depend on the magnitude of the shifts and the relative elasticities of supply and demand.

Or something like that  thumb1

...but stochasticity associated with spikes in serum testosterone and/or ethanol concentrations of male consumers seeking to acquire one of the magna tribus (big 3) may disturb the equilibrium price causing an upward deflection for particular examples thus increasing the standard deviation...

I can not repeat what Jimmy just said in response to that P32 :o ...last time the board software banned me rofl2 I tried to decipher it but it was a torrent of, well along the lines of $%dd*mn nerdy sunsab*tches always gotta over complicate a simple fricken(yeah..he used the big word) subject talking about testicular enraged jackwagons(censored that one to) bidders price fixing the fricken(yeah...again) prices, he would get an ethanol buzz to if he paid that much, yadda yadda...  I got nothing, he went on and on rambling, hollarin and screaming, throwing stuff in my head, Now I'm like Danny, I gotta real, real bad headache chuckles1 rofl
I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse......

Leave the gun, take the cannoli.

I said I was an addict........I didn't say I had a problem

Phosphorus32

My work here is done  moon1  rofl  ...although I better watch my back for Jimmy  scared1


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1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

Loose}{Cannon

      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.