roush306 - Parting out SKSs on....

[jda70]

Hey...

There is some guy named roush306 on eBay and Gun Broker that takes
SKSs and parts them out and sells them. Why?

Right now he has  Receiver #71915 DN

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=547304605

Then on ebay has The matching bolt and Bolt Carrier #71915
Oh and Not included are the necessary parts for the bolt to actually work.
Yeah those have been parted out to.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SKS-Matching-Numbers-BOLT-Assembly-Original-Nice-7-62x39-71915-/152011151047?hash=item23649216c7:g:vw8AAOSwYlJW4fb~

Look I understand he has the right to do whatever the hell he wants in life but I think he is an asshole.
I know for a fact he's been parting out for a couple years now. I don't know what else to says other
then I hate people that do that.

Am I just being a prick myself? Thoughts?

[Loose}{Cannon]

Laff...   I don't care for it much. I guess some folks really need that extra $50.

I blame obama.   

[running-man]

He's done it for many years now.  It makes business sense I guess because so many SKSs have gone under the bubba knife anyhow.  People are looking for already ruined project guns to bubba so they don't feel so bad about messing with history (ok maybe not, but I do know that they are looking for a cheap project gun, that I'm certain of), so he fills that niche by breaking a $300 gun into a $150 receiver, $50 TG, $25 bayo, $100 bolt/carrier group, $40 stock, etc..  I will say that I do dislike it when he takes an uncommon arsenal and scatters the parts to the four winds, but what are you going to do?  If you let little stuff like this bother you, the big stuff will overwhelm you when it inevitably comes around.

It's his money & his right to buy and do what he wishes with them.  The only reason you don't see him parting out Russians or Albys is because the price of those in as-imoprted condition is high enough to start with that there's no meat on the bone when it comes to parting them out.  Chinese and Yugos on the other hand...

[padams8888]

I personally have purchased from him in the past to un-bubba quite a few rifles and he is actually a very nice guy. He definitely fills a need for some builders/owners. He does not recognize what he has at times (and I've told him as such) I can see where it bugs the crap outta folks/purists, but he is one of many. He also has stockpiles of NOS/take off items like bayonets from time to time.....So.....? It does make ya wonder sometimes what the rifle looked like when he started parting it out.

[Greasemonkey]

Am I just being a prick myself? Thoughts?

Oh.....somebody say rick with a "P"....and ask for an opinion...

I don't see alot of difference between him and people throwing all the tackykool junk on one and then selling off the good parts. Who knows.... between all of the people butchering them for parts and bubbas, the price of a pristine original configuration rifle will go through the roof. Only then, will the violence stop, I mean SKS lives matter, too. Like the Mosin, there is only so many you can destroy before the scales tip in favor cost wise of originals, cause there is only a limited number of rifles. Come on, I remember the days of the 59 dollar M44, the $49 M91/30, cause they were as common if not more common than a Chinese SKS, now find one, unmolested and unrefinished for "a" so called reasonable price. Their isn't much, if any modern production SKSs these days, or on any surplus weapons, cause most ain't imported anymore, which don''t really matter, cause there is in many instances, just no more left to import.

Jimmy's prickish purist opinion  says....  Chop'em up boys, gut'em like a fish, use the torch, Dremel, chop saw, hack saw, band saw, sand paper, steel wool, PolyStain, Cerokote, KY Jelly, peanut butter and all the tongue  oil you want, high cap'em, brake'em, para'em and recoil buffer'em...... all that wonderful stuff only makes my poor lowly factory originals that actually work without issues that much more valuable in the end. And, when/if they break, I'll have plenty of the original factory parts people sold to fit'em.

[Phosphorus32]

I'm sure not a fan of what he's doing, if he's taking perfectly functional SKSs and dismembering them for profit  but all I can do in a free market system is NOT buy from him.

[MEBears]

Chopping up complete rifles kind of sucks, especially if he doesn't care if it's an uncommon one. But it is his choice, spare parts have to come from somewhere.

[jjjxlr8]

I'm sure not a fan of what he's doing, if he's taking perfectly functional SKSs and dismembering them for profit  but all I can do in a free market system is NOT buy from him.

I agree.  I won't buy from this guy...ever.  What he is doing should not be encouraged. 

[padams8888]

I'm sure not a fan of what he's doing, if he's taking perfectly functional SKSs and dismembering them for profit  but all I can do in a free market system is NOT buy from him.

I agree.  I won't buy from this guy...ever.  What he is doing should not be encouraged. 

Seriously? so we should buy aftermarket crap parts from Amazon for our rifles? Anyone who pulls parts off of rifles and sells them is to be shunned? Huh......
I get your point.....and I do not part rifles out.....but IMHO the practice does not harm our pastime.....to each their own I suppose.

[Greasemonkey]

I'm sure not a fan of what he's doing, if he's taking perfectly functional SKSs and dismembering them for profit  but all I can do in a free market system is NOT buy from him.

I agree.  I won't buy from this guy...ever.  What he is doing should not be encouraged. 

Ok.. so according to these statements, one should not buy from Numrich, Liberty Tree, Apex, Clearview, Centerfire or any surplus parts house or supplier?

Now ask your self.... Self, how many Garands, M1 Carbines, M14s, K98s, Krags, Lugers, P38s, M1917 Enfields, SMLE Enfields, Swedish Mausers, Mosins both Russian and Finnish, South American Mausers, and on and on have been torn down, stripped of their virtue for parts over past 40, 50 or so years? Where does all these wonderful little surplus pieces and parts come from, I will bet a pretty good percentage came from functional weapons or even more so, weapons that needed one or two little parts to work. You can not make parts replicas of every surplus weapon part, or said parts would be prohibitively expensive due to performing any metal treatments, hardening, heat treatment, dimension variances and/or just the machine work thats required, so the parts and pieces gotta come from somewhere, and at somewhat reasonable prices.

If you kinda look at it, it's a vicious circle, people chop them and bubba them, then other people buy them and try to put them back as they were, it's a constant tug of war between the two sides, it happens with about every milsurp weapon known, the bubba vs. the purist, and somewhere in the middle is a parts place or supplier. The surplus parts place supplies the parts the purist demands to off set the aftermarket parts taken off during a restoration. To get true surplus parts requires a sacrifice somewhere, a.k.a. rifle strip down, and an aftermarket company can't possibly make surplus parts, because then it's not "surplus", it is, what it is, modern made aftermarket, which a "purist" usually won't tolerate. One can't simply say one side is right or wrong, because both sides feed off the parts to make said weapons stock again or to alter them, it's good old fashion supply and demand, just cause you don't or refuse too buy, don't mean 100 others won't line up to buy.

[padams8888]

 

[Phosphorus32]

Meh, sometimes I hate logic      Still not a fan of the concept but I certainly see your points that the real deal parts have to come from somewhere and they aren't NOS coming from the Zastava, or Tula, or /26\ arsenals, or wherever.  I hate to see a complete rifle in decent shape parted out, if that's what this little guy and all of the big guys do. If the firearm is cut down, barrels shot out (not too likely on a Type 56), triggers buggered up, complete mismatch, or somehow functionally compromised I don't have much, if any, heartburn with it.

[Loose}{Cannon]

I dont think the small time 'parter outers' cut anything.  I have however seen "parts kits" on GB with cut receivers.  I believe the GB sales were seized firearms from what I understand.  So I dont feel so bad about it because yes, parts have to come from somewhere and we are lucky to see the seized parts at all. The 'parter outer' guys I'm a bit confused by because its not alot of money to ne had considering time/effort, and all it takes is one time of parting out something more valuable kept together to counter any profit made on several others. 

[firstchoice]

roush306 is knocking down some pretty good dough on some of those parts.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SKS-10-Paratrooper-Blade-Bayonet-Complete-Chinese-Type56-Original-Nice-7-62x39/152011194044?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140602152332%26meid%3Deb6a2642813f4da8874209c699b7d907%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D152011151047

$92.00 and counting for a 10" Blade Bayonet. (5 bidders and 12 bids so far)

I'm not a fan of the concept, either. I bought an old Chinese barreled receiver just for the weirdness of the SN (scrubbed receiver w/ SN 00158) and won't spend the money to build it. It just wouldn't be worth the cost. It'd be a $1000.00 Chinese mismatch at roush306' prices. 

firstchoice