Arab Contract on the Other SKS Forum

[martin08]

This one has a pretty cool and different looking rack number application, and  appears to have seen plenty of service.

http://www.the 'other' boards/smf/index.php?topic=140837.msg1662679#msg1662679

[Loose}{Cannon]

Saw that...  Already in the serial list.   Likely has a replacement stock because a laminated belongs on a blued carrier gun.  I like the arab #2 marked on a solid black circle.   Interesting way to apply the number. 

Regarding your post... When did we ever import from the PLO?  My point is, yes, there is plenty of evidence that other nations/organizations in the middle east received chinese sks rifles but only one know source of exportation.  Israel.   In addition, there has never been any evidence of Egypt receiving any chinese sks rifles.  Like.... Zero, ziltch, nada.

Most were captured from Syrians and the PLO operating in Lebonon. There is also zero evidence of any rifles ever being imported from Kuwait, Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, or any other place other then Israel.

If you ever find evidence suggesting otherwise that don't come from a bobblehead night time bed story... Im all ears.   

[martin08]

Regarding your post... When did we ever import from the PLO? 

We didn't import from the PLO.  China exported to them.

In regard to the Arab Contract guns arriving from Egypt, I would suggest contacting Vic Thomas of Gunboards who has stated on more than one occasion that he personally pulled Arab marked gun of all types, including the SKS, from crates arriving from Egypt in the late 1980's and early 1990's when he was working for a US distributer.  I forget the name of the company at this time, but I'm sure that he is willing to divulge.

I think that my main point in the SKS Boards post is that I erroneously applied the Egyptian Contract name when I did my research to identify the two main 9mil and 12mil serial blocks in 2009 and 2010.   As well, I think that the Israeli Capture name needs less definition.  Many were Israeli captured, with the CAI import mark, but many others do not fit that description.  I personally own one with no import marks, and another with the Norinco export mark.  They are assuredly Arab Contract guns, but definitely not Israeli captures.

[running-man]

For those that are having trouble with the link, here it is:

http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?topic=140837.msg1662679#msg1662679

I'm not usually a big fan of sending eyeballs to SKSBoards (with their utterly dismissive attitudes towards the general membership here), but it is an interesting gun. 

I can buy the Egyptian import theory because we know the Rasheeds came from there (and various Hakims, Mausers, etc)  I'm unaware of whether we would see Russians only, Chinese only, or both Russians and Chinese mixed in with the Egypt batches.  From what I've read/heard, Egypt tended more towards Russian arms whereas the PLO got them from anyone they could, whether clandestinely from China or by using neighboring countries that acted as an intermediary with China. 

[Loose}{Cannon]

I would suggest contacting Vic Thomas of Gunboards who has stated on more than one occasion that he personally pulled Arab marked gun of all types, including the SKS, from crates arriving from Egypt in the late 1980's and early 1990's when he was working for a US distributer

IIRC, I had a conversation in open forum regarding this and he more/less said it was an assumption they were from Egypt and never had a straight up confirmation. 

I would challenge anyone feeling nerdy to try and find 'any' pic of Egyptians with chinese sks or any sks for that matter. 

[Loose}{Cannon]

Also, we are calling the early Century guns with correct import mark 'Israeli Captures' nothing else.  I know Sarco has strong ties to the ME and imported some similar non /26\ guns, but they would not be an Israeli Capture and are not outlined here.

http://sks-files.com/index.php?topic=1886.0

What importer did he work for?  What was his role? And how are those guns marked if other then CAI

[Loose}{Cannon]

To make matters worse, these guns were imported along with Hakims, Rasheeds etc because they were also captured by Israel, because Egypt played a role in every war they had against Israel.  Dont mean Egypt had chinese sks.

[Loose}{Cannon]

I personally own one with no import marks, and another with the Norinco export mark.

Because your Russian came from Canada as they received them also, primarily the russians.    .  CAI didn't mark their guns in Canada.

[Loose}{Cannon]

Maybe he should put an EG AK sling on thar...   

[fenceline]

I personally own one with no import marks, and another with the Norinco export mark.

Because your Russian came from Canada as they received them also, primarily the russians.    .  CAI didn't mark their guns in Canada.

I'm going to start calling those "Canadian Capture" guns.

[Loose}{Cannon]

But but....  Canada didn't capture them.   

[fenceline]

But but....  Canada didn't capture them.   

We asked nicely and said please and thank you and apologized for the tone.

It was a great victory.

[Worm]

To make matters worse, these guns were imported along with Hakims, Rasheeds etc because they were also captured by Israel, because Egypt played a role in every war they had against Israel.  Dont mean Egypt had chinese sks.

Bingo