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pcke2000

Quote from: wacman85 on November 08, 2015, 09:47:28 PM
gentleman i just talked to today from canada said ATF will not let any sks rifles into the USA from canada.

it's not news

Phosphorus32

Quote from: pcke2000 on November 08, 2015, 10:09:58 PM
Quote from: wacman85 on November 08, 2015, 09:47:28 PM
gentleman i just talked to today from canada said ATF will not let any sks rifles into the USA from canada.

it's not news
rofl  True.  Of course most of us (myself included) have asked the same question of ourselves, or the ATF, or looked up the relevant rules, or asked others at one time or another...only to have the unfortunate reality confirmed again   banghead1  chuckles1

pcke2000

Quote from: running-man on November 08, 2015, 09:18:35 PM
Unknown stamp tentatively called "D0" here at SKS-Files (this one may or may not actually exist, it may be a light strike of any of the others):

For discussion purposes. Personally I think D0 'Plain diamond' is an independent mark, which is different from other diamond shape marks, and may represent a specific arsenal.

Reason: I have observed many D0 marks on SKSs' receiver covers (actual rifles and online pictures). Though some of them are incomplete (e.g. a half diamond), most of complete D0's were struck hard enough to show 'something' inside the diamond, if they are actually like marks from 5th GRAU or 75th ABV.

I would like to hear opinions from other members. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

wacman85

Quote from: pcke2000 on November 08, 2015, 10:09:58 PM
Quote from: wacman85 on November 08, 2015, 09:47:28 PM
gentleman i just talked to today from canada said ATF will not let any sks rifles into the USA from canada.

it's not news

was to me thought i would share if someone else wondered that may have not known, there for they wouldn't have to ask. only been doing this year and a half so not up to speed as you guys are. some times i throw stuff out here in case another newbie finds it and that way doesn't have to bother you guys with questions you've answered a 1000 times. plus i'm old, can read one day and will be looking it up again the next, lol.
I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."
- George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

Phosphorus32

Quote from: wacman85 on November 08, 2015, 10:23:37 PM
..., can read one day and will be looking it up again the next, lol.

rofl  I hear that! Remember all sorts of stuff I learned as a teen or in college...but ask me what I had for lunch yesterday and it's  ???

running-man

I think it's highly probable that the D0 represents a separate GRAU/ABV too.  thumb1 

The only reason I put the "may not exist" caveat in there is I have yet to run into a gun that had a nice deep full stamp that a photograph could capture the full mark unequivocally.  For most there is just enough that I can't see to want to err on the side of caution:





      

pcke2000

Thank you very much.

Personally I think the one on the Izhevsk may not be an actual D0 (could be deep scratches which look like an incomplete diamond, or something else), as you can see (compared to other common D0's): (1) the two lines are not straight enough, and (2) the two lines were struck so hard, you would expect to see the two lines joined together at one end, but they didn't.

But again, I posted my opinion just for discussion and learning purposes.  Thank you.

Loose}{Cannon

My opinion...   RM posted a whole crap ton of diamond refurb examples, and I dont think this one is any different.  Line here, line there, no line.... All same meaning, just a dif location. Russia is a big place.
      
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms... It doesn't matter how many Lenins you get out on the street begging for them to be taken.

wacman85

all those look like refurb diamond stamps to me. some partially buffed off. some rifles i've seen and it's like a person can't resist the temptation to buff up the metal. case in point, sold a rifle to a friend and bought it back. now it was his at the time and not the least bit upset. he had taken the butt plate and buffed it to look shiny. i had the rifle over a year and all i did was put "Waffenfett" on the wood and "Automatenfett" on the metal and bore. i just think that if i was to have to sale one i could say that it is just as i got it to how ever was buying it.
I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."
- George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

running-man

Quote from: pcke2000 on November 08, 2015, 10:43:39 PM
Thank you very much.

Personally I think the one on the Izhevsk may not be an actual D0 (could be deep scratches which look like an incomplete diamond, or something else), as you can see (compared to other common D0's): (1) the two lines are not straight enough, and (2) the two lines were struck so hard, you would expect to see the two lines joined together at one end, but they didn't.

But again, I posted my opinion just for discussion and learning purposes.  Thank you.

It's not out of the realm of possibility, it definitely could be.  There was much *very* heated debate over that gun as I remember.  I wish the OP of that one would have shown the underside of the receiver cover.  That would have told a more complete story as a stamp that deep in places should have shown through with a bit of deformation on the other side.  The general location is consistent with the D0 stamp (above the arsenal stamp) and the angle between the two visible lines is a pretty good match too in my opinion. 

Hard to say, I can see your reasoning behind thinking it's not a stamp.  At the same time, I've seen enough broken stamps and in general piss poor stamping efforts made on round receiver covers, round barrel lugs, and round receiver front collars that it really doesn't surprise me when some of them come out looking way off.