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Re: Development of the SKS-45
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2015, 03:30:09 PM »
I am curious where OP found the photo of the 1944 Prototype? Thank you very much in advance.
I think LC sent it to me  ???

Here's an interesting precursor to the SKS. 5 round single-stack semi-auto in 7.62x54R a couple of years before the M43 cartridge was approved.


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Re: Development of the SKS-45
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2015, 03:51:35 PM »
It looks to me like several evolutionary desiged guns made by Simonov resulted in the sks.
      
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Re: Development of the SKS-45
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2015, 03:59:43 PM »
These basically look the same other then one has a longer shroud.  You can tell the 1944 magazine (wide portion) compared to the other is not as long. Def not for the larger x54




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Re: Development of the SKS-45
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2015, 05:45:11 PM »
These basically look the same other then one has a longer shroud.  You can tell the 1944 magazine (wide portion) compared to the other is not as long. Def not for the larger x54

Good point!   thumb1 Those two look very closely related.

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Re: Development of the SKS-45
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2015, 05:52:01 PM »
Probably so... I recall that to be the case from years ago, but either the book is wrong, or the web page it wrong.  Someone is wrong.  Lol.   Need a pic of rotating bolt on that critter.

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Re: Development of the SKS-45
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2015, 05:53:57 PM »
Thank you very much gentlemen for all the info posted. I am trying to dig out more info of Russian SKS development. And I'll post here if I find something new or interesting.

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Re: Development of the SKS-45
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2015, 06:49:54 PM »

Here's an interesting precursor to the SKS. 5 round single-stack semi-auto in 7.62x54R a couple of years before the M43 cartridge was approved.



Looking at the front end of the stock on this one, specifically the split all the way out to the stock ferrul/sling swivel makes me wonder if this carbine broke down like the M1 Garand.

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Re: Development of the SKS-45
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2016, 12:33:27 PM »
   
Tula State Museum of Weapons.  Whats that thar on the far right!?!?

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Re: Development of the SKS-45
« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2016, 12:36:31 PM »
Notice it bayo attachment.....   Is like this one from page 1... Russian forum user called it an SKSa

http://popgun.ru/viewtopic.php?f=171&t=191480&start=350

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Here, found in their bins photo SKSa experienced in 1949! He - tetrahedral bayonet. So in this part of the authorized book "It was used early Russian SKS made ​​in 1944 and in 1949 before replaced by blede bayonet" confirmation yet. About SKS carbines early 1944, the Americans do not know what they write - they at all have never seen, because there detachable bayonet.
For 1949 - see for yourself
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Re: Development of the SKS-45
« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2016, 01:22:57 PM »
You love it.   :P

      
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Re: Development of the SKS-45
« Reply #30 on: May 01, 2016, 05:58:38 PM »
Fascinating!  The magazine is very different too. They did a lot of experimentation with the magazine based on this and the pics in D. N. Bolotin's book "Soviet Small Arms and Ammunition: p. 116-117 (English version).

D. N. Bolotin, p. 116



D. N. Bolotin, p. 117

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Re: Development of the SKS-45
« Reply #31 on: May 01, 2016, 11:03:45 PM »
There's like 300 dif experamental variations of one sort or another.   dash3
      
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Re: Development of the SKS-45
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2016, 06:07:35 AM »
the different bayonet attachment is also mentioned in A. B. Zhuk's book 'Rifles and Automatic' 1987

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Re: Development of the SKS-45
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2016, 06:08:39 AM »
another interesting article on Russian SKS:

http://samara.rgantd.ru/activity/shelf/19947/