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Title: No1 MkIII from Iraq
Post by: Phosphorus32 on October 16, 2018, 10:16:07 PM
I found this No1 MkIII at an online auction in Oregon, where fortunately for me it suffered from a poor description and similarly poor photography, so it came home for the price of a No1 MkIII*, ca 2014. I was excited when I drove down to pick it up and found that not only was it a 1928 BSA but, as hinted at by the stock disc, it was indeed Iraqi property marked on the knox form, action and buttstock wood.

A very scarce year and an equally scarce Iraqi property marked SMLE. Assuming it was delivered close to the year of production indicated on the socket and the barrel, it was used in the era of the Kingdom of Iraq Under British Administration, and thereafter. It has no import marks, so it did not come into the US, like so many other Iraqi stamped SMLEs, via the Federal Ordnance imports of Israeli captured weapons (like my Iraqi marked K98k). https://sks-files.com/index.php?topic=1894.msg21925#msg21925

It's odd that the proof marks and view marks are all from RSAF Enfield with no script Bs indicative of proof at BSA. The first L block marked BSAs appeared in 1928, at least I haven't found an earlier year yet, and the last in this block of 100,000 was completed early in WWII, 1941. Hence, there was very little production in the 1920s and 1930s.

Thanks for looking!

(https://preview.ibb.co/kDrEML/00-Iraqi-Jeems.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nkSogL)

(https://preview.ibb.co/kRHogL/14-Iraqi-stock-disc.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hDOiFf)

(https://preview.ibb.co/d8UjML/00-1928-BSA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/iuyN80)

(https://preview.ibb.co/jpWEML/01-left-full.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gccAvf)

(https://preview.ibb.co/d39qvf/02-left.jpg) (https://ibb.co/iSDHaf)

(https://preview.ibb.co/gfnzo0/03-left.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hCNX80)

(https://preview.ibb.co/ec6s80/04-left.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fHPOFf)

(https://preview.ibb.co/iQuOFf/05-right-full.jpg) (https://ibb.co/d1qxaf)

(https://preview.ibb.co/mH35T0/06-right.jpg) (https://ibb.co/epWEML)

(https://preview.ibb.co/mf1s80/07-right.jpg) (https://ibb.co/iDPZML)

(https://preview.ibb.co/dhOTgL/08-right.jpg) (https://ibb.co/izkxaf)

(https://preview.ibb.co/eGXcaf/09-SN-rec-barrel.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bBLVvf)

(https://preview.ibb.co/cm8TgL/10-SN-bolt.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m2hogL)

(https://preview.ibb.co/dUXAvf/11-SN-backsight.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fArg1L)

(https://preview.ibb.co/kxtuML/12-SN-nosepiece.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cNd5T0)

(https://preview.ibb.co/k8Xzo0/13-proofs-views.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cA8Haf)

(https://preview.ibb.co/gFjC80/15-jeem-on-stock.jpg) (https://ibb.co/i3mg1L)

 (https://preview.ibb.co/c9Scaf/16-HV-SC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hRo5T0)
Title: Re: No1 MkIII from Iraq
Post by: Greasemonkey on October 17, 2018, 12:27:02 AM
As he sits there with a big SMLE on his grill, huffin old grease and....enabling  :)

Yup it's an Enfield, thats all I know.. my Enfieldese is weak....anyway....can I have it.. thumb1

You knowed I was gonna ask  rofl2 Maybe them mail people will quit getting lost at the naked lady place in Who knows Where Montana..
Title: Re: No1 MkIII from Iraq
Post by: running-man on October 17, 2018, 08:07:34 AM
That's a real beauty Jon!  Don't listen to that GM guy, he's just bitter that he hasn't brought anything new home in the past three days.  rofl
Title: Re: No1 MkIII from Iraq
Post by: carls sks on October 17, 2018, 09:22:16 AM
looking good, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: No1 MkIII from Iraq
Post by: Phosphorus32 on October 17, 2018, 11:06:20 AM
As he sits there with a big SMLE on his grill, huffin old grease and....enabling  :)

Yup it's an Enfield, thats all I know.. my Enfieldese is weak....anyway....can I have it.. thumb1

You knowed I was gonna ask  rofl2 Maybe them mail people will quit getting lost at the naked lady place in Who knows Where Montana..

 rofl yeah, I have a sneaking suspicion this one isn't going to make it out to Appalachia either didnt do
Title: Re: No1 MkIII from Iraq
Post by: Phosphorus32 on October 17, 2018, 11:07:16 AM
That's a real beauty Jon! 

Thanks Joe!


Don't listen to that GM guy, he's just bitter that he hasn't brought anything new home in the past three days.  rofl

True story  chuckles1
Title: Re: No1 MkIII from Iraq
Post by: Phosphorus32 on October 17, 2018, 11:07:36 AM
looking good, thanks for sharing.

Thanks Carl!
Title: Re: No1 MkIII from Iraq
Post by: Phosphorus32 on October 17, 2018, 11:26:26 AM
Proof and View Marks

(https://preview.ibb.co/k8Xzo0/13-proofs-views.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cA8Haf)

The proof mark is the royal cypher, crossed flags, and "P". These are found on the barrel and action body (receiver). The royal cypher is the crown over GR (Georgius Rex), aka King George V

The view marks (inspection marks) are a crown over a letter for the factory, typically with a number for the "viewer" (inspector) but in this case a PL.
E for Royal Small Arms Factory Enfield
A cursive capital letter B for BSA Co. (Birmingham Small Arms)
X for LSA Co. (London Small Arms)
B for Sparkbrook

Even though this rifle is a BSA, it was apparently proofed and inspected at Enfield.
Title: Re: No1 MkIII from Iraq
Post by: Greasemonkey on October 17, 2018, 07:32:51 PM
Don't listen to that GM guy, he's just bitter that he hasn't brought anything new home in the past three days.  rofl

It's been 5 days....slight withdrawal symptoms have already started. Great....now I get addict abuse from RM.  rofl
Title: Re: No1 MkIII from Iraq
Post by: martin08 on October 18, 2018, 11:07:55 PM
Jeems like a pretty good one.

You know you've made me extremely jealous when I have to resort to cheap puns.
Title: Re: No1 MkIII from Iraq
Post by: Phosphorus32 on October 19, 2018, 07:11:50 AM
Jeems like a pretty good one.

rofl I like cheap puns...


You know you've made me extremely jealous when I have to resort to cheap puns.

...and Iíll take that as a compliment, thanks!  thumb1  :)