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Title: Question on C&R eligibility
Post by: Greatguns on December 17, 2024, 06:28:41 PM
I have a Paratrooper SKS modified in China for export. The receiver is an arsenal /26\, 12th year, 1967, Type 56. In standard OEM configuration as imported (restored) would it be C&R eligible based on the fact it is a /26\ and more than 50 years old (receiver anyway) or does being a 'Paratrooper' disqualify it?
Title: Re: Question on C&R eligibility
Post by: RoscoeTurner on December 17, 2024, 08:05:07 PM
Must be in original configuration to qualifty.

"Any firearm that is at least 50 years old, and in its original configuration, would qualify as a C&R firearm."

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/curios-relics
Title: Re: Question on C&R eligibility
Post by: Greatguns on December 17, 2024, 09:11:58 PM
I understand that general aspect of C&R qualification, but I am asking in reference to the 'Paratrooper' modification. Even though the receiver/action was originally built in 1967, I am referencing the fact that while still in it's original configuration, it was modified in China in the '80s and then exported to the US. Does the modification negate the eligibility for C&R status?
Title: Re: Question on C&R eligibility
Post by: Greatguns on December 17, 2024, 09:32:03 PM
So, to ask it a different way, when it says original configuration it means it still has to have a 20" barrel on it and cutting the barrel down to 16" nullifies the C&R status? That is kind of what I was thinking, but never having had a C&R license I am a little lacking in some of the ambiguity on this. I know some guys who have blatantly sold and shipped bubba'd rifles to C&R holders because it was older than 50 years. The fact that the paratrooper has the appearance of an OEM configuration SKS it still has the barrel shortened. That is where it becomes fuzzy to me, partly because it IS a factory /26\ build.
Title: Re: Question on C&R eligibility
Post by: RoscoeTurner on December 17, 2024, 11:00:12 PM
Based on past conversations with a friend who is an ATF inspector the rifle would have to be in its original configuration as to its date of manufacture.  That is not saying a lot these models have not been sold as C&R but when you get down deep into the details they do not pass the C&R test.  Since the Paratrooper SKS was dreamed up by someone in marketing during the 80s I would have hard time accepting it as C&R.
Title: Re: Question on C&R eligibility
Post by: running-man on December 18, 2024, 10:43:10 AM
My interpretation (which with $5 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks):


Again, this is just my interperetation, but I personally would be confortable conducting a C&R transaction according to this set of criteria.
Title: Re: Question on C&R eligibility
Post by: Greatguns on December 18, 2024, 01:15:37 PM
Thanks guys for the input. Had a guy ask on a Paratrooper I have up for sale, I told him no based on y'alls input and some from PAX. Never got into the C&R scene and my old brain ain't workin' as good as it used to so wasn't sure. Figured it was better to sound dumb than to actually be dumb, LOL.
Title: Re: Question on C&R eligibility
Post by: RoscoeTurner on December 18, 2024, 04:30:13 PM
Glad to be able to help.  Your question was a very good one and quite understandable as the SKS does present a challenge sometimes when it comes to C&R status due to dating informaton and other issues.
Title: Re: Question on C&R eligibility
Post by: echo1 on December 18, 2024, 07:08:35 PM
To throw a wrench in the works, in Laymans book, although wrought with errors, has pictures of captured and DD-603 documented, AK mag fed Paratrooper length rifles with shortened bayos, no mag well inserts. So technically, any Paratrooper from arsenal /26\ of the right serial COULD possibly be C&R  8) PAX