Picked up a May 1918 made Eddystone M1917 Enfield along with a Yugoslavian M70 this past weekend at the gunshow. Out of 38 parts known to be manufacturer marked, there are four parts that aren't Eddystone made and one I can't figure out who made it.
The handguard ring and magazine spring are marked R for Remington, floor plate marked W for Winchester and barrel marked JA for Johnson Automatics. The one I can't ID the manufacturer for is the bolt stop rest, all I can find on it is the Eagle proof/inspector stamp.
This thing was so covered in cosmoline/grease that I swear my hands (I forgot to put gloves on) won't dry out or rust for at least a year.
Some quick pictures of it.
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I love the M1917. It’s the great American rifle of WWI. Okay, Mauser-derived, British-designed, but American-produced. That’s a beautiful example with great Parkerizing, dark aged walnut and sharp-edged grasping grooves. Congratulations! thumb1
Nice. I've got a sport job that's salvageable that I hope to get after NEXT year. PAX
Thank you for the responses. I've considered changing out the non Eddystone parts, well not the barrel.
The magazine spring and floorplate would be easy to do, along with the bolt stop rest. The handguard ring, would require removal of the front sight, which would be a pain in the backside.
Already got a lead on a few reproduction M1907 leather slings, and brass oiler/cleaning kit for the buttstock. Just need to get a decent bayonet for it. Then start looking for the next firearm/milsurp for the collection, maybe a M1903 or Krag or ?
If it were mine I’d leave it as is, rather than trying to correct the parts. It isn't as-issued (very rare for American military firearms) but it is probably “as-refurbished” by an American arsenal.
I have a soft spot for 1917s. If you do decide to "correct" let me know, I think I should have E spring and floor plates.
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on October 19, 2023, 05:41:47 AM
If it were mine I’d leave it as is, rather than trying to correct the parts. It isn't as-issued (very rare for American military firearms) but it is probably “as-refurbished” by an American arsenal.
True, the only parts on my milsurps that have been changed by me are ones that were missing, broken, or un-serviceable (For shooting purposes). Everything else has been left as found. One of the reasons I'm on the fence with this one, since it's just small parts, except the barrel.
Quote from: Cz315 on October 19, 2023, 07:43:54 AM
I have a soft spot for 1917s. If you do decide to "correct" let me know, I think I should have E spring and floor plates.
Awesome, I'll keep that in mind, and I really do appreciate the offer.
M1907 repro, though not WWI marked
https://www.gunboards.com/threads/for-sale-high-quality-replica-ria-1941-leather-m1907-slings-new-unused.1248481/
I do like the M1917.. I have a M1903 and 2 Krags.. but I always go for one of the m1917s.. it's just a preference to the large beefy design. Been thinking on and off about a P14 in .303 British.
2 Winchesters.. thumb1
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Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 19, 2023, 04:50:59 PM
I do like the M1917.. I have a M1903 and 2 Krags.. but I always go for one of the m1917s.. it's just a preference to the large beefy design. Been thinking on and off about a P14 in .303 British.
2 Winchesters.. thumb1
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/72t5nsr6cpx1l6l/HPIM0054.jpg?dl=0)
Yeap, there are a lot of rifles on my wish list. Want a No 1 Enfield to go with my No 4. Then there is the want of an 1903, Krag, Springfield 1861 and 1863, Trapdoor. No sooner do I mark one gun off the list I add 3 more to it.
I've purchased 5 firearms, plus a parts kit in the last 10 months.
Quote from: Ret-Sarge on October 19, 2023, 06:00:55 PM
Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 19, 2023, 04:50:59 PM
I do like the M1917.. I have a M1903 and 2 Krags.. but I always go for one of the m1917s.. it's just a preference to the large beefy design. Been thinking on and off about a P14 in .303 British.
2 Winchesters.. thumb1
Yeap, there are a lot of rifles on my wish list....
Don't get me started, I've been downsizing... Although I have been considering looking for the cheapy .22 sub gun knockoff that were around in the '60s & '70. PAX
Let me see what parts I have left for the 1917. I'll get back with you next week or you can send me a PM. Cheers!!
20 lbs of vintage American firepower, the Enfield with its younger cousin the Garand.
1943 Springfield M1 Garand
1918 Eddystone M1917 Enfield
(https://i.ibb.co/YyTSMJp/20231021-183036.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BrKJxvq)
Sorry for the drool/slobber spot on the Garand stock. Charlie our male Alaskan Malamute-Siberian Husky (Alusky) mix had to check them out and give his approval. Managed to take a picture before Katya our female Siberian Husky came to give her approval.
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Quote from: Ret-Sarge on October 21, 2023, 07:34:56 PM
20 lbs of vintage American firepower, the Enfield with its younger cousin the Garand.
1943 Springfield M1 Garand
1918 Eddystone M1917 Enfield
(https://i.ibb.co/YyTSMJp/20231021-183036.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BrKJxvq)
thumb1 They definitely made them heavy duty back in the day.. always fun.....NOT..... to shove just over 8 pounds of loaded drum magazine into an 11 pound rifle, it quickly becomes a 19 pound chunk. The drum looks awesome, but it's not really practical having 2 boxes of 45acp hanging there, I just stick to the simple stick magazines anymore.
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thumb1 They definitely made them heavy duty back in the day.. always fun.....NOT..... to shove just over 8 pounds of loaded drum magazine into an 11 pound rifle, it quickly becomes a 19 pound chunk. The drum looks awesome, but it's not really practical having 2 boxes of 45acp hanging there, I just stick to the simple stick magazines anymore.
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Wow, now that is sweet. Would love to add one of those to the herd also. Darn it, now my list is growing bigger.
Couldn't imagine hauling 20 lbs of rifle around. Heck just in the standard configuration, plus all the gear, then lugging it across Europe on foot was/is a major workout. People were smaller frame/weight and the guns were heavier back then that is for sure.
Quote from: Ret-Sarge on October 21, 2023, 07:57:38 PM
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The cat is the boss thumb1
Quote from: Cz315 on October 22, 2023, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: Ret-Sarge on October 21, 2023, 07:57:38 PM
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The cat is the boss thumb1
Yeap, their Buddy Bob the Black Bobbed Tailed Beast. We lost him due to old age and health issue a few months back. The dogs still look for him at times.
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Oh, you hang around long, we can cause a list.. thumb1. It's an enabling bunch here.. :) especially the P32 guy.. thankfully he retired. rofl2
Worse. There is a virus on this site that infects you and promotes addiction and self-enabling. There is no cure
Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 22, 2023, 09:53:31 PM
Oh, you hang around long, we can cause a list.. thumb1. It's an enabling bunch here.. :) especially the P32 guy.. thankfully he retired. rofl2
Here's what resides in the house currently.
Pistols:
1933 Tula Nagant M1895
1953 Ceskoslovenska Zbrojovka BRNO CZ-52
197? Crvena Zastava M70
1972 Smith & Wesson 15-3 (K38)
197? JP Sauer & Sohn/Hawes Western Marshal (Father's gun)
1989 Ceská Zbrojovka CZ-82
1991 Ceská Zbrojovka CZ-83
1991 Ceská Zbrojovka CZ-83
1979 Armi San Marco Colt 1851 Navy
2013 Taurus PT 111 Millennium G2
2013 SCCY CPX-1 CB
2013 SCCY CPX-1 TT
2021 Taurus G2c
Long Guns:
1863 Snider Enfield P1853 Mk II**
1874-1876 Remington Egyptian M1868 No 1 Rolling Block
1879 Waffen Fabrik Bern Vetterli M1869/71
1890 Danzig Commission Rifle M1888
1894/1927 Izhevsk/Tikkakoski Mosin Nagant M1891
1894-1896 Oviedo Mauser M1893
1896 Terni Carcano M1891
1914 Koishikawa Arsenal Type 38 Arisaka
1915-1917/1924-1927 Remington Böhler Stahl Mosin Nagant M1891/24
1917 Tula Mosin Nagant M1891
1918/1932 Steyr Mannlicher M1895/30
1918 Eddystone M1917
1920-1926 Oviedo Mauser M1893/1916
1926-1928 Fabrique Nationale d'armes de Guerre M1924/47
1928-1930 Ceskoslovenska Zbrojovka VZ-24 (1932 San Paulo uprising gun)
1929-1941 Kragujevac Arsenal M1924/47
1932 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant M1891/30
1939 Tula Mosin Nagant M1891/30
1940-1956 Iver Johnson Arms & Cycle Works Champion (GGF's gun)
1942 K. Kale Mauser M1938
1942 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant M1891/30
1943 Springfield Armory Garand M1
1943 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant M1891/30
1943 BSA Shirley M47 Enfield No. 4 Mk 1
1944 Nagoya Arsenal Type 99 Arisaka
1944 Waffen Werke Brunn K98k Mauser
1947 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant M1944
1948-1949 Manufacture d'armes de Saint Etienne MAS-1936
1948-1952 Kragujevac Arsenal M1948
1954 Romanian Cugir arsenal Mosin Nagant M1944
1955 Chongquing Arsenal Type 53
1956 Jianshe Arsenal Sino-Soviet SKS M56
1973 Marlin Original Golden-39M (Father's gun)
1975 Remington 1100 (Father's gun)
2015 Mossberg Int'l 702 Plinkster
2016 Bushmaster XM15-E2S (Faux M16A2/645)
2017 JSS AR15 (Faux M4)
2018 Cugir Arms Factory WASR 10 AKM
2021 PSA PA15 (Faux M16/604)
197?/200? CETME C, build in progress
Quote from: Cz315 on October 22, 2023, 10:23:59 PM
Worse. There is a virus on this site that infects you and promotes addiction and self-enabling. There is no cure
52 smoke poles and a parts kit residing in the house so far. See list above. If I catch the virus going around on here, the herd will double in no time.
I know of the virus.. I was good for 2 years.. and I seriously fell off fricken the wagon this year.. Most of mine are scattered throughout this site.. but.. there are some haven't been posted.. we all have secrets.. :) and a list.. ooooof... well I really hate typing that much... But.. I'm up to 43 calibers, and my 7th C&R renewal.. expensive piece of paper .. rofl2
Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 22, 2023, 11:10:58 PM
I know of the virus.. I was good for 2 years.. and I seriously fell off fricken the wagon this year.. Most of mine are scattered throughout this site.. but.. there are some haven't been posted.. we all have secrets.. :) and a list.. ooooof... well I really hate typing that much... But.. I'm up to 43 calibers, and my 7th C&R renewal.. expensive piece of paper .. rofl2
Most expensive $30 you'll ever spend... rofl
And Sarge, just so you know, GM has a bit of an enabling problem. Best not to listen to his sweet whisperings! Until he fell off the wagon earlier this year, he would typically only goad members into purchasing some obscure Mosin or whatnot. Now that he's delved into CZ's I'm worried *my* willpower won't even be enough!
Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 22, 2023, 11:10:58 PM
I know of the virus.. I was good for 2 years.. and I seriously fell off fricken the wagon this year.. Most of mine are scattered throughout this site.. but.. there are some haven't been posted.. we all have secrets.. :) and a list.. ooooof... well I really hate typing that much... But.. I'm up to 43 calibers, and my 7th C&R renewal.. expensive piece of paper .. rofl2
I'm only up to 27 calibers....I honestly didn't know a person could buy military surplus weapons for the longest time. I bought my first one a Turkish Mauser in Jan 2011, and 2 Mosin Nagants in Mar 2011.
A retired coworker was into them and showed me his collection and I was in awe, and asked where you get them at. That day my wife and I hit a military surplus store in Alabama on the way back to Florida and there was a gun store next door. We found the Turkish Mauser there, and my wife insisted I buy it. I bet she regrets that decision now. 2 months later met said buddy at a gunshow in Alabama and my loving wife insisted I get the 2 Mosin Nagants, its been downhill since.
Occasionally I took a year off from buying since then, due illnesses/health issues or due to Hurricane Michael.
Quote from: running-man on October 23, 2023, 11:10:14 AM
Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 22, 2023, 11:10:58 PM
I know of the virus.. I was good for 2 years.. and I seriously fell off fricken the wagon this year.. Most of mine are scattered throughout this site.. but.. there are some haven't been posted.. we all have secrets.. :) and a list.. ooooof... well I really hate typing that much... But.. I'm up to 43 calibers, and my 7th C&R renewal.. expensive piece of paper .. rofl2
Most expensive $30 you'll ever spend... rofl
And Sarge, just so you know, GM has a bit of an enabling problem. Best not to listen to his sweet whisperings! Until he fell off the wagon earlier this year, he would typically only goad members into purchasing some obscure Mosin or whatnot. Now that he's delved into CZ's I'm worried *my* willpower won't even be enough!
Yeah he's already infected me on the CZ's. Had a few already then he posted his collection on my post. Now I want more of them.
https://sks-files.com/index.php?topic=4860.0
Just trying to help... uhm.... further the spread of the disease.. :)
I mean.. this started off about the Model 1917.. and went to enabling.... so... these are the other Model 1917s that exists.... thumb1
Colt M1917
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/z9xrabzhh56dhv2/SAM_3039.JPG?dl=0)
S&W M1917
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/v9rwjdi2e4ovmem/SAM_3055.JPG?dl=0)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/r002pi9ju1njnuq/SAM_3078.JPG?dl=0)
Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 23, 2023, 02:13:09 PM
Just trying to help... uhm.... further the spread of the disease.. :)
I mean.. this started off about the Model 1917.. and went to enabling.... so... these are the other Model 1917s that exists.... thumb1
Colt M1917
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/z9xrabzhh56dhv2/SAM_3039.JPG?dl=0)
S&W M1917
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/v9rwjdi2e4ovmem/SAM_3055.JPG?dl=0)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/r002pi9ju1njnuq/SAM_3078.JPG?dl=0)
Ugh, more guns to add to the wish list......Never going to build my gun allowance up at this rate.
Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 23, 2023, 02:13:09 PM
Just trying to help... uhm.... further the spread of the disease.. :)
I mean.. this started off about the Model 1917.. and went to enabling.... so... these are the other Model 1917s that exists.... thumb1
Colt M1917
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/z9xrabzhh56dhv2/SAM_3039.JPG?dl=0)
S&W M1917
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/v9rwjdi2e4ovmem/SAM_3055.JPG?dl=0)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/r002pi9ju1njnuq/SAM_3078.JPG?dl=0)
And then there is the whole Winchester vs Remington vs Eddystone 1917 thing. Non-refurb 1917 etc. the rabbit hole goes deep
Quote from: Cz315 on October 23, 2023, 07:21:40 PM
Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 23, 2023, 02:13:09 PM
Just trying to help... uhm.... further the spread of the disease.. :)
I mean.. this started off about the Model 1917.. and went to enabling.... so... these are the other Model 1917s that exists.... thumb1
Colt M1917
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/z9xrabzhh56dhv2/SAM_3039.JPG?dl=0)
S&W M1917
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/v9rwjdi2e4ovmem/SAM_3055.JPG?dl=0)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/r002pi9ju1njnuq/SAM_3078.JPG?dl=0)
And then there is the whole Winchester vs Remington vs Eddystone 1917 thing. Non-refurb 1917 etc. the rabbit hole goes deep
Well I got the eyeroll over dinner, when I mentioned adding more guns to my wishlist. She said I'm running out of room and need to get off my arse soon.
Guess I need to find a contractor to do the enclosure on the garage (25' x 25') then. That is where the new man cave is going. I'll have all my militaria and military mementos displayed out there, along with the toys. My old gunroom/office/militaria room, I gave up as a playroom for the grandkids, after the Hurricane Michael repairs were done. Plus I gave up the living room (Where my wife and kids had a ton of my militaria displayed) so my wife could decorate it like a normal room, instead of it having a "Vintage Army Navy Store" vibe.
Quote from: Ret-Sarge on October 23, 2023, 01:17:51 PM
A retired coworker was into them and showed me his collection and I was in awe, and asked where you get them at. That day my wife and I hit a military surplus store in Alabama on the way back to Florida and there was a gun store next door. We found the Turkish Mauser there, and my wife insisted I buy it. I bet she regrets that decision now. 2 months later met said buddy at a gunshow in Alabama and my loving wife insisted I get the 2 Mosin Nagants, its been downhill since.
Occasionally I took a year off from buying since then, due illnesses/health issues or due to Hurricane Michael.
think1
If I didn't know any better, I'd think your wife was trying to off you for some inheritance or something!!! chuckles1
There's no way that your typical wife "insists" the husband buy a firearm, much less TWO Mosin Nagants! Two Mosins upfront, wow that is like taking a quad esspresso first thing in the morning. I can only imagine how many Mosins you have now! rofl
Heck I usually get an eyeroll even BEFORE I bring up that I'm even looking at XYZ particular firearm. She seems to "know" even before I do! Anymore it's easier to ask for forgiveness rather than permission. (though it's been practically 100% ammo recently...well at least up until a couple weeks ago when demand & prices went all goofy...darn panic buyers messing up us budget conscious folk!)
And this is yet another reason.. I'm no longer married rofl2
Quote from: running-man on October 24, 2023, 03:16:18 PM
think1
If I didn't know any better, I'd think your wife was trying to off you for some inheritance or something!!! chuckles1
There's no way that your typical wife "insists" the husband buy a firearm, much less TWO Mosin Nagants! Two Mosins upfront, wow that is like taking a quad esspresso first thing in the morning. I can only imagine how many Mosins you have now! rofl
Heck I usually get an eyeroll even BEFORE I bring up that I'm even looking at XYZ particular firearm. She seems to "know" even before I do! Anymore it's easier to ask for forgiveness rather than permission. (though it's been practically 100% ammo recently...well at least up until a couple weeks ago when demand & prices went all goofy...darn panic buyers messing up us budget conscious folk!)
My wife's mentality is this....
She says you worked all those years, did all those deployments, lived in tents, in chemical gear, lived out of a bag. Long hours in the Desert without a day off for months on end. The house is paid for, the SUVs are paid for, all we pay for is utilities, groceries and the occasional credit card bill.
So I'll give you $400.00 a month gun allowance, how you spend it, when you spend it is up to you. Besides playing with guns should keep you out of trouble. Sometimes I hoard my allowance like a miser and let it build up, other times it goes through my fingers like a single GI's pay on a Friday night after payday.
As for the guns, when I'm dead, she'll either divide between the three kids, or let them pick a few, or keep them all herself or sell them. Obviously the family guns will go to them.
People are really surprised that she insisted on me buying the first three. On the two Mosin Nagant M91/30s. The vendor had a pile of them, his sales pitch was "Buy one for $99.00 and get the second one for $99.00". She goes might as well take advantage of that deal and get of two them. When he goes "They're both at $99.00 ma'am". She goes I know, I just loved your funny spiel, so he'll take two. Got a 1939 Tula and a 1943 Izhevsk that day. That is the day my addiction/sickness started......
Now when I'm looking at guns at a gunshow, she'll ask do you have one of those yet? When I say no. She'll go why not get it? Or as I'm looking at a gun, she'll ask the vendor if the price is set or is there any wiggle room, before I've made a decision yet. I bought a Finnish M24/91 Lotta Rifle OTD for $180.00 because it looked crusty/rusty, and she pointed out to the gun store owner. Turned out the yellowing on the metal wasn't rust it was chunky flaking lacquer. So I got a killer deal on that one.
For me the hunt for the accessories is always fun (Bayonets, slings, holsters, cleaning rods, etc). I'm short the bayonet for the Eddystone, and short a lockring bayonet for a Mosin Nagant M91. Well I had one for the M91, but when I went to knock it loose I broke the lockring, and those don't exist in wild off the bayonet.
Good stories! Definitely a keeper Sarge. thumb1
Though starting with two Mosin Nagants. What on earth was she thinking!??!?! chuckles1
Quote from: running-man on October 26, 2023, 01:00:58 PM
Good stories! Definitely a keeper Sarge. thumb1
Though starting with two Mosin Nagants. What on earth was she thinking!??!?! chuckles1
think1
RM trying to pick the age old fight.. this is why he just can't, him leaning against a M91/30. He fears what he doesn't understand... it's the Lieutenant Commander Spock engineer in him. rofl chuckles1 rofl2
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The deep dark question he should ponder and ask himself..... is not... why we own Mosins.. but... why he does not??
Or own a few.. not all but a few... rofl2 When all the other rifles quit.. a Mosin will still be hammering away somewhere on this planet..
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Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 26, 2023, 01:28:45 PM
Quote from: running-man on October 26, 2023, 01:00:58 PM
Good stories! Definitely a keeper Sarge. thumb1
Though starting with two Mosin Nagants. What on earth was she thinking!??!?! chuckles1
think1
RM trying to pick the age old fight.. this is why he just can't, him leaning against a M91/30. He fears what he doesn't understand... it's the Lieutenant Commander Spock engineer in him. rofl chuckles1 rofl2
(http://www.todayifoundout.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/punt-gun-340x482.png)
The deep dark question he should ponder and ask himself..... is not... why we own Mosins.. but... why he does not??
Or own a few.. not all but a few... rofl2 When all the other rifles quit.. a Mosin will still be hammering away somewhere on this planet..
Wow, sweet pile of Mosins there, beats my little pile. Which only consists of the following.
1894 Izhevsk M1891 with a 1927 Tikkakoski stepped barrel
1915-17 Remington M1891/24 with a 1924-27 Böhler Stahl barrel
1917 Tula M1891
1932 Izhevsk M1891/30
1939 Tula M1891/30
1942 Izhevsk M1891/30
1943 Izhevsk M1891/30
1947 Izhevsk M1944
1954 Romanian Cugir Arsenal M1944
1955 Chongquing Arsenal Type 53
The 2 M44s are original matching not forced matched, the rest are mutts.
Quote from: running-man on October 26, 2023, 01:00:58 PM
Good stories! Definitely a keeper Sarge. thumb1
Though starting with two Mosin Nagants. What on earth was she thinking!??!?! chuckles1
Well the Turkish Mauser came first, then the Mosins. Her thinking was, it was different than the Mauser, so I really needed them.
Swiss K31's are coming in..
rofl
Should I get those out next.. rofl
Quote from: Bacarnal on October 27, 2023, 09:39:28 AM
Swiss K31's are coming in..
rofl
Yall are some serious enablers that is for sure, good bye to any notion of saving my allowance up.
Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 27, 2023, 09:54:40 AM
Should I get those out next.. rofl
Sure, pile it on and just rub a little more salt in the wound. Heck I'll even hold the wound open so you can get the salt deep. My allowance isn't going to have a chance to build up.
Quote from: Ret-Sarge on October 27, 2023, 12:45:01 PM
Yall are some serious enablers that is for sure
NO such thing here!!! rofl rofl rofl
The virus takes hold in no time :)
A little salt.. thumb1
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(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/tsr6o1qasq0is3d/SAM_1687_zpsjyad7dn7.jpg?dl=0)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/eeb7i1hksibmwjr/SAM_1337_zpsd1e4cea4.jpg?dl=0)
Anyways.... back to the Swiss.. :)
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Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 28, 2023, 07:54:49 PM
A little salt.. thumb1
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Anyways.... back to the Swiss.. :)
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Hey I've got ONE Swiss ao far at least, an 1879 Waffen Fabrik Bern Vetterli M1869/71, even got the pointie stabie thing for it. It's numbers matching. I have a spare bolt that has been converted to center fire, preserving the original one in rim fire. I have a cleaning rod and sling for it somewhere.
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thumb1 nice..
Here is the..41 Swiss ammo.. collectable, don't even know if it would fire. The bottom box are shot shells.
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Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 29, 2023, 04:21:22 AM
thumb1 nice..
Here is the..41 Swiss ammo.. collectable, don't even know if it would fire. The bottom box are shot shells.
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I've got one original Swiss 41 cartridge for display purposes. Building display showing the different cartridges for my firearms so I don't have to find an ammo can to get or pull up a picture to show someone.
It was actually my wife's ideal, to do the ammo display. A few are commercial examples of military rounds but I swap them out when I find a military one.
Just can't bring myself to drop $75.00 on one Egyptian 43 round so far. Call me cheap but dang that is a lot of normal plinking ammo money.
Some in my needs list, is because I've just haven't gotten around to getting the ammo yet like the 38 spl. Then for the display purposes, I got a 556 and 223 as I've actually had people argue with me that there is a physical difference between the 2 or arguing that 44 Mag and 44 Spl use the same size shell.
Needs
8X57 J (8mm Round Nose)
8X50 (8mm original Mannlicher round)
Egyptian 43
38 Spl
32 ACP
6.5x52 Carcano
On Hand:
7.62X38
7.62X54
7.62x53 Finnish
7.62X25
7.62X39
7.62X51 NATO
7.7X58 Japanese
7mm
7.5x54 French
8mm Mauser
8mm Mannlicher
303 British
5.56
9mm
380
12 Gauge
44 Magnum
44 Special
36 Ball
22 Long Rifle
22 Long
22 Short
30-06
6.5X50 Japanese
223
557 Snider-Enfield
557 Enfield (Minie)
10.4X38 Swiss
First picture Swiss 41, 577 Snider-Enfield, with 12 gauge for comparison.
Second picture the 577 Snider-Enfield and 577 Enfield minie. Showing what my P1853 was originally made to shoot, then what it was modified to shoot.
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Calibers in the safes.... think1.. .17HMR, .22S, L, LR, .22WMR, .22 Hornet, .223/5.56, .243Win, .25ACP, .32ACP, .32S&W, 38S&W, 38SPL, 357Mag, 357Sig, 40S&W, 380ACP, 9mm Luger, 10mm Auto, 45ACP, 45Long Colt, 9mm Mak, 7.62x25 Tokarev, 7.62x38r Nagant, 7.63×25mm Mauser, .41Mag, .44Mag, .454 Casull.. .30 Carbine, .30-06, .30-40 Krag, 45-70Govt., 7.62x51Nato/.308Win/7.62 Cetme, 7.5 French, 8x50mmr Lebel, 7.5 Swiss,.41 Swiss rimfire, .303 British, 455 Webley, 7.65 Argentine, 6.5 Carcano, 6.5 Swede, 6.5 and 7.7 Japanese, 8mm Nambu, 9mm Japanese revolver, 5.45x39, 7.62x39, 7.62x54r, 7mm and 8mm Mauser, 8x56r Steyr, 338 WinMag, .36 and .44 cap and ball, 12, 20 and 410 gauge... Hell, my head hurts now.... rofl2 I guess thats it.. might have missed one.
Here is some original paper patched Russian 10.75×58 mmR for the Berdan rifle
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Various types of x54r ammo, Finnish, Czech, Bulgarian, Albanian, Chinese, Hungarian, Yugoslavian, East German, of course Russian
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Orignial 7x57mm Mauser 2 from 1896, one 1913 and 1937
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US GI 45 ACP shotshells
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Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 29, 2023, 09:24:57 PM
Calibers in the safes.... think1.. .17HMR, .22S, L, LR, .22WMR, .22 Hornet, .223/5.56, .243Win, .25ACP, .32ACP, .32S&W, 38S&W, 38SPL, 357Mag, 357Sig, 40S&W, 380ACP, 9mm Luger, 10mm Auto, 45ACP, 45Long Colt, 9mm Mak, 7.62x25 Tokarev, 7.62x38r Nagant, 7.63×25mm Mauser, .41Mag, .44Mag, .454 Casull.. .30 Carbine, .30-06, .30-40 Krag, 45-70Govt., 7.62x51Nato/.308Win/7.62 Cetme, 7.5 French, 8x50mmr Lebel, 7.5 Swiss,.41 Swiss rimfire, .303 British, 455 Webley, 7.65 Argentine, 6.5 Carcano, 6.5 Swede, 6.5 and 7.7 Japanese, 8mm Nambu, 9mm Japanese revolver, 5.45x39, 7.62x39, 7.62x54r, 7mm and 8mm Mauser, 8x56r Steyr, 338 WinMag, .36 and .44 cap and ball, 12, 20 and 410 gauge... Hell, my head hurts now.... rofl2 I guess thats it.. might have missed one.
Here is some original paper patched Russian 10.75×58 mmR for the Berdan rifle
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/6uqs2tu8digbve2/IMG_20210319_161044331.jpg?dl=0)
Various types of x54r ammo, Finnish, Czech, Bulgarian, Albanian, Chinese, Hungarian, Yugoslavian, East German, of course Russian
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/scl/fi/fwtoit877xw6nx1xa2e4j/SAM_0789_zpstqjkvorv.jpg?rlkey=wo67vjjzdx157z07gros1u9r5&dl=0)
Orignial 7x57mm Mauser 2 from 1896, one 1913 and 1937
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/scl/fi/yaa9jxy03he7z0ln3lvyp/SAM_0733_zpsv4tz6kee.jpg?rlkey=kp733w7v1rmpun83zs1cx22j9&dl=0)
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US GI 45 ACP shotshells
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The Orignial 7x57mm Mauser 2 from 1896, one 1913 and 1937. So basically the 7mm Mauser version of the 8mm aka M88 cartridge I'm looking for. Have tons of 8mm Spitzer examples, just need the M88 (Ball) version as that is what 1890 Danzig Gew 88/05 I have was originally chambered for. Great for showing the lineage of the 8mm round used by Germany
So now my big question. Did the Spanish Mausers, Model 1893, use the Ball (Round) projectile or did they always use the Spitzer (Pointed) round? If they did use the early version first, I guess I need to add that to my needs list.