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SKS Carbines => Unaltered SKS Rifles => Chinese SKS (Military) => Topic started by: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 04:04:02 PM

Title: M21 from Vietnam
Post by: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 04:04:02 PM
A long dry spell for milsurps, then a couple of interesting finds on GunBroker. I already posted the Saginaw M1 Carbine a couple of days ago: https://sks-files.com/index.php?topic=6819.0

This Chinese SKS popped up in my auto-search email notification from GunBroker at O'dark-30 with a BIN that made me BIN at 2am rofl This is presumably a late 9th year (1964) M21, given the relatively high serial number for this 9 series M21. It almost looks like a cache gun with the cosmoline present in the mag well, inside the receiver, recoil spring assembly, gas piston and tube, etc. but it was clearly carried based on the wear where a hand gripped the foreend. The bore is clear and shiny, so I'd guess it was minimally cleaned and fired at least a few times in it's residual storage grease condition, before it was captured. No import marks of course. Jungle patina but not bad and all matching. It came without a sling but I had a nice worn sling I picked up for $5 in a pawn shop recently.

Personally, I think these No 8 and 9 series M21s are a really interesting variation of the definite Vietnam bring-back rifles, 4th to the Trinity rifles, but a close 4th behind the North Vietnamese Star 1 variant.

The books I picked up in a large lot of USMC manuals etc. at an online auction about a month ago. I've presented a couple of pages of interest on the US understanding of the Chinese 7.62x39 ammo ca. 1971.


(https://i.ibb.co/JBqZR9P/01-left-full.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Qbk0F4G)

(https://i.ibb.co/n0Pg6zh/02-left.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xsFCXJV)

(https://i.ibb.co/jD2MvG7/03-left.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bXZBgLp)

(https://i.ibb.co/nrZjT6y/04-left.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kKkXp5T)

(https://i.ibb.co/MshND1f/05-left.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QfcmFHk)

(https://i.ibb.co/wZkrbxf/06-right-full.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rKjfL1V)

(https://i.ibb.co/Lkjtv2c/07-right.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZL48NkF)

(https://i.ibb.co/99GH8yH/08-right.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C5WK1VK)

(https://i.ibb.co/d5QF3tF/09-right.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5R5mzkm)

(https://i.ibb.co/LppRRs1/10-right.jpg) (https://ibb.co/w66gg24)

(https://i.ibb.co/6v6h3rc/11-SN-rec.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RhLnxYG)

(https://i.ibb.co/b5G0QnB/12-SN-stock.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yFx9dJy)

(https://i.ibb.co/dMRWwKZ/13-SN-tg.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nmFgNkp)

(https://i.ibb.co/d2Btfty/14-SN-mag.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DC4Y1Yn)

(https://i.ibb.co/Nss62tf/15-SN-bc.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bPPg5QY)

(https://i.ibb.co/xsvFNBW/16-SN-bolt.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VNywszR)

(https://i.ibb.co/3B3zgPY/17-SN-extractor.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SRjrFZ7)

(https://i.ibb.co/qsN0sQc/18-SN-rec-cover.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pzfWzFM)

(https://i.ibb.co/bRgFHFW/19-SN-gas-tube-and-piston.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PzZMTMm)

(https://i.ibb.co/RBJWLBn/20-SN-rear-sight-leaf.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F0dtG0v)

(https://i.ibb.co/WFs6DLJ/21-stock-markings.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Mp9s8m0)

(https://i.ibb.co/fvJWM3Z/22-cosmo-rec-int.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dgZvBNX)

(https://i.ibb.co/k59YSt9/23-cosmo-mag-well.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0mFPGxF)

(https://i.ibb.co/9GHnQDx/24-VC-IED-book.jpg) (https://ibb.co/st9j8fT)

(https://i.ibb.co/TqgzV1C/25-VC-Ammo-book-cover.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gFRs5dn)

(https://i.ibb.co/QbxMWNQ/26-VC-Ammo-book-pp-10-11.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PmVg2hj)

(https://i.ibb.co/pbpQrVM/27-VC-Ammo-book-pp-12-13.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S5pc7YM)
Title: Re: M21 from Vietnam
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on August 18, 2022, 04:30:33 PM
Wretched…. just look at that stock.  🤮
Title: Re: M21 from Vietnam
Post by: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on August 18, 2022, 04:30:33 PM
Wretched…. just look at that stock.  🤮

bat1 rofl
Title: Re: M21 from Vietnam
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on August 18, 2022, 05:30:34 PM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on August 18, 2022, 04:30:33 PM
Wretched…. just look at that stock.  🤮

bat1 rofl

Perhaps you can sand it down and stain it?  🤷🏼‍♂️
Title: Re: M21 from Vietnam
Post by: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 05:46:29 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on August 18, 2022, 05:30:34 PM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on August 18, 2022, 04:30:33 PM
Wretched…. just look at that stock.  🤮

bat1 rofl

Perhaps you can sand it down and stain it?  🤷🏼‍♂️

Nothing some 80 grit and Minwax PolyShades Natural Cherry spray can’t fix  thumb1
Title: Re: M21 from Vietnam
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on August 18, 2022, 05:55:30 PM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 05:46:29 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on August 18, 2022, 05:30:34 PM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on August 18, 2022, 04:30:33 PM
Wretched…. just look at that stock.  🤮

bat1 rofl

Perhaps you can sand it down and stain it?  🤷🏼‍♂️

Nothing some 80 grit and Minwax PolyShades Natural Cherry spray can’t fix  thumb1

Have you looked into duracoat?
Title: Re: M21 from Vietnam
Post by: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 06:03:41 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on August 18, 2022, 05:55:30 PM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 05:46:29 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on August 18, 2022, 05:30:34 PM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on August 18, 2022, 04:30:33 PM
Wretched…. just look at that stock.  🤮

bat1 rofl

Perhaps you can sand it down and stain it?  🤷🏼‍♂️

Nothing some 80 grit and Minwax PolyShades Natural Cherry spray can’t fix  thumb1

Have you looked into duracoat?

Absolutely. All the tacticool LARPers swear by it.
Title: Re: M21 from Vietnam
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on August 18, 2022, 06:12:24 PM
I’ll take the fsb and bho when you decide to part it out.  Pm me
Title: Re: M21 from Vietnam
Post by: High Noon on August 18, 2022, 07:02:27 PM
Yeah she's too far gone.....  :( :( :(

Might as well spray paint all of the metal a nice glossy black and slap some outdoor deck paint on that stock....to fix her up.   ;) ;) ;) ;)




Kidding aside...I like the look!  Honest & authentic....wouldn't change a thing.  thumb1

Very nice sir!
Title: Re: M21 from Vietnam
Post by: Greatguns on August 18, 2022, 07:05:56 PM
Oooh, can I have the sling and bayonet? rofl rofl

On a more serious note, Noice riffle buddy
Title: Re: M21 from Vietnam
Post by: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 07:36:54 PM
Thanks HN and GG!  thumb1  :)
Title: Re: M21 from Vietnam
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on August 18, 2022, 07:53:04 PM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 07:36:54 PM
Thanks HN and GG!  thumb1  :)

What am I….  chopped liver? 
Title: Re: M21 from Vietnam
Post by: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 08:03:30 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on August 18, 2022, 07:53:04 PM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 07:36:54 PM
Thanks HN and GG!  thumb1  :)

What am I….  chopped liver?

What comment would I be thanking you for  think1  chuckles1
Title: Re: M21 from Vietnam
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on August 18, 2022, 08:18:32 PM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 08:03:30 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on August 18, 2022, 07:53:04 PM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 07:36:54 PM
Thanks HN and GG!  thumb1  :)

What am I….  chopped liver?

What comment would I be thanking you for  think1  chuckles1

Superb smithsonian grade exquisite specimen dripping with excellence…. just like its owner!?   dntknw1
Title: Re: M21 from Vietnam
Post by: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 09:06:40 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on August 18, 2022, 08:18:32 PM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 08:03:30 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on August 18, 2022, 07:53:04 PM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 07:36:54 PM
Thanks HN and GG!  thumb1  :)

What am I….  chopped liver?

What comment would I be thanking you for  think1  chuckles1

Superb smithsonian grade exquisite specimen dripping with excellence…. just like its owner!?   dntknw1

All true  rofl Thank-you
Title: Re: M21 from Vietnam
Post by: swede1894 on August 18, 2022, 09:40:32 PM
I'm glad someone on the forum snagged that one!  It's a dandy.  I saw it in my search also and when i clicked on it...it'd already been sold.  A non-import marked m21 has been on my want list for a while.
Title: Re: M21 from Vietnam
Post by: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 10:55:32 PM
Quote from: swede1894 on August 18, 2022, 09:40:32 PM
I'm glad someone on the forum snagged that one!  It's a dandy.  I saw it in my search also and when i clicked on it...it'd already been sold.  A non-import marked m21 has been on my want list for a while.

Thanks. Yeah, I didn’t hesitate after I looked through the pictures.
Title: Re: M21 from Vietnam
Post by: Boris Badinov on August 18, 2022, 11:19:10 PM
Nice catch.

Kudos on setting yourself up for an phenomenal acquisition. thumb1
Title: Re: M21 from Vietnam
Post by: Phosphorus32 on August 18, 2022, 11:24:57 PM
Quote from: Boris Badinov on August 18, 2022, 11:19:10 PM
Nice catch.

Kudos on setting yourself up for an phenomenal acquisition. thumb1

Thanks Boris!
Title: Re: M21 from Vietnam
Post by: Bacarnal on August 19, 2022, 08:12:26 AM
Some people have all the luck, and cash reserves bat1 wink1.  Great one to find, Jon. Love its looks!!
Title: Re: M21 from Vietnam
Post by: Phosphorus32 on August 19, 2022, 11:35:09 AM
Quote from: Bacarnal on August 19, 2022, 08:12:26 AM
Some people have all the luck, and cash reserves bat1 wink1.  Great one to find, Jon. Love its looks!!

Thanks Bruce. Definitely good to have a cash reserve when something like this pops up right after another purchase.