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Title: Gunstock wax, Oatey Johni-Ring Toilet Wax?
Post by: SCC30Arms on May 02, 2021, 02:51:44 PM
I am currently working on two SKS carbines and have been researching what wax to use on stocks. Lately, I've been watching Mark Novak and his Anvil series (great gunsmith who does work on the firearms used on the Primer series that C&Rsenal does) and he uses Oatey Johni-Ring Toilet Wax for waxing the stocks he restores to give them the look of a stock that is around a century or more in age. His results have intrigued me and has made me think about trying it out. However, I don't really see anyone else discussing the use of this stuff on gunstocks.

Anyone else have insights into the use of this toilet ring wax on a gunstock? I am still thinking about other stock wax such as Tom's 1/3 Mix Military Gunstock Wax.
Title: Re: Gunstock wax, Oatey Johni-Ring Toilet Wax?
Post by: running-man on May 02, 2021, 10:12:43 PM
This is a new one for me. After having pulled many of them off and putting new ones on in my years during various renovations, I’m surprised they would work well for a gun application. That wax is simply nasty nasty stuff when it’s been setting there for 20 years.

I don’t love using a stock seeping cosmoline, I’d probably hate a sticky feeling stock worse. Maybe my imagination about how a stock treated with the stuff would feel is way off base though.  dntknw1
Title: Re: Gunstock wax, Oatey Johni-Ring Toilet Wax?
Post by: SCC30Arms on May 03, 2021, 09:48:52 PM
Quote from: running-man on May 02, 2021, 10:12:43 PM
This is a new one for me. After having pulled many of them off and putting new ones on in my years during various renovations, I’m surprised they would work well for a gun application. That wax is simply nasty nasty stuff when it’s been setting there for 20 years.

I don’t love using a stock seeping cosmoline, I’d probably hate a sticky feeling stock worse. Maybe my imagination about how a stock treated with the stuff would feel is way off base though.  dntknw1

Thanks, I am thinking now that I'll let someone else experiment with this toilet ring wax and will go with Tom's 1/3 Mix. Not doubting Mark Novak, but I just find it strange that no one else goes along with this kind of wax.
Title: Re: Gunstock wax, Oatey Johni-Ring Toilet Wax?
Post by: Greatguns on May 03, 2021, 11:22:28 PM
If he restores antiques and such he is probably doing for the look and for preservation more than anything because the firearm is going to be either a wall hanger, safe queen, and/or conversation piece. More than likely it will not be shot much if at all.
For a functioning firearm one is going to shoot on a regular basis it probably isn't a good idea. BLO, Tung oil, Linseed oil are more modern wood soaking products that dry hard, protect, and won't liquefy when they get hot, which wax will do.

Save the wax for your skis and surf boards. rofl rofl
Title: Re: Gunstock wax, Oatey Johni-Ring Toilet Wax?
Post by: Phosphorus32 on May 04, 2021, 02:44:40 AM
Toilet ring wax is definitely a new one to me.

Keep in mind that historic firearm collectors (like antique furniture collectors) don’t typically restore stocks, instead they preserve their history by leaving them alone, or using a period correct treatment, e.g. Ballistol for cleaning/oiling German K98k rifle stocks (unless they are still dry, then leave them alone); raw tung oil for WWII US rifles; raw linseed oil for WWI to early WWII US, Lee-Enfields, etc.  :) Not to come off trying to sound morally superior, probably everyone of us has refinished at least one stock, I’m just adding my opinion.

Of course shooters will refinish stocks to get a coating of suitable durability for whatever service role they plan for their firearm.
Title: Re: Gunstock wax, Oatey Johni-Ring Toilet Wax?
Post by: Larry D. on May 04, 2021, 11:10:43 AM
Never heard of that one before, but I'll definitely check out the videos.

As far as refinishing goes, I'm more of the Tung and BLO philosophy.

If you say that out loud it sounds, well, more interesting........
Title: Re: Gunstock wax, Oatey Johni-Ring Toilet Wax?
Post by: Bacarnal on June 03, 2021, 10:53:00 PM
Quote from: Larry D. on May 04, 2021, 11:10:43 AM
Never heard of that one before, but I'll definitely check out the videos.

As far as refinishing goes, I'm more of the Tung and BLO philosophy.

If you say that out loud it sounds, well, more interesting........

chuckles1 chuckles1 chuckles1 chuckles1.....gotta be Navy wink1!!

As an aside, Boiled Linseed Oil is what I've used for years on pretty much all of my stocks. Cheers, Bruce.
Title: Re: Gunstock wax, Oatey Johni-Ring Toilet Wax?
Post by: hoopharted on July 02, 2021, 04:47:03 PM
i use saddle soap on both stocks and leather slings
Title: Re: Gunstock wax, Oatey Johni-Ring Toilet Wax?
Post by: Rotorranch on July 28, 2022, 03:04:59 PM
I have heard that in the past. Supposed to work good,  from what the old folks said.

Never tried it myself.
Title: Re: Gunstock wax, Oatey Johni-Ring Toilet Wax?
Post by: Bacarnal on July 28, 2022, 07:33:04 PM
As for using the toilet ring wax to finish stocks, I'm just not flushed with excitement, so I don't have to keep a lid on my emotions.  I think it might be a waste of time and money washed down the drain. whistle12
Title: Re: Gunstock wax, Oatey Johni-Ring Toilet Wax?
Post by: Rotorranch on July 29, 2022, 02:11:02 PM
Quote from: Bacarnal on July 28, 2022, 07:33:04 PM
As for using the toilet ring wax to finish stocks, I'm just not flushed with excitement, so I don't have to keep a lid on my emotions.  I think it might be a waste of time and money washed down the drain. whistle12

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Title: Re: Gunstock wax, Oatey Johni-Ring Toilet Wax?
Post by: Phosphorus32 on July 29, 2022, 04:00:48 PM
Quote from: Bacarnal on July 28, 2022, 07:33:04 PM
As for using the toilet ring wax to finish stocks, I'm just not flushed with excitement, so I don't have to keep a lid on my emotions.  I think it might be a waste of time and money washed down the drain. whistle12

Exactly  thumb1 rofl
Title: Re: Gunstock wax, Oatey Johni-Ring Toilet Wax?
Post by: Bob_The_Student on July 30, 2022, 08:04:29 AM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on May 04, 2021, 02:44:40 AM
... morally superior...

Isn't she a nun?
Title: Re: Gunstock wax, Oatey Johni-Ring Toilet Wax?
Post by: Phosphorus32 on July 30, 2022, 08:12:56 AM
Quote from: Bob_The_Student on July 30, 2022, 08:04:29 AM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on May 04, 2021, 02:44:40 AM
... morally superior...

Isn't she a nun?

chuckles1 I have not heard that title before but it sounds plausible  ;)
Title: Re: Gunstock wax, Oatey Johni-Ring Toilet Wax?
Post by: Greasemonkey on July 30, 2022, 05:13:30 PM
Waxing and then buffing your wood... think1  I mean..... just maybe Mr. Miyagi was on to something..Wax on, wax off. Wax on, wax off :o

But hey... in today's times... its what ever floats your boat, and gets you there.. thumb1
Title: Re: Gunstock wax, Oatey Johni-Ring Toilet Wax?
Post by: Dedeagach on September 06, 2022, 01:08:48 PM
I am curious how the different brands of wax might differ. It is common that a company will sell the exact same product in different packaging for a mark-up in different industry. You also might look at car waxes. My thought is all the above are based on petroleum and not beeswax.