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SKS Carbines => Unaltered SKS Rifles => Russian SKS => Topic started by: CrazySquid on December 03, 2014, 06:27:43 AM

Title: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: CrazySquid on December 03, 2014, 06:27:43 AM
Looking around for rare or diff sks here,,,
So far not much luck,,just saw one at a shooting range,,rough shape Russian letter series in laminate, with a 1950 receiver cover,,

At least had some fun on full auto AK47 and T97,,

Hopefully better luck tomorrow
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: padams8888 on December 03, 2014, 02:18:01 PM
How fun does that sound! Almost like stepping back in time a little.....Dont forget pics if ya come across cool things! Stay safe!
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: Phosphorus32 on December 03, 2014, 02:55:36 PM
Quote from: CrazySquid on December 03, 2014, 06:27:43 AM
At least had some fun on full auto AK47 and T97

Now that sounds like a hoot!  tommy1

Cambodian travel tip: Don't accept any rides from the Pol Pot Fan Club  :))
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: CrazySquid on December 03, 2014, 09:30:48 PM
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z147/jimtoronto/20141203_154453_zps4okh64uh.jpg) (http://s190.photobucket.com/user/jimtoronto/media/20141203_154453_zps4okh64uh.jpg.html)


stepson ready to fire pkm full auto
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: padams8888 on December 04, 2014, 12:22:54 AM
That's awesome!
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: CrazySquid on December 04, 2014, 05:45:07 AM
Grrr  no luck today. Ive seen pics b4 of guards at the royal palace here standing around with sks rifle including 1949s,,,but today,,just holding Russian M44s     :(
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: CrazySquid on January 03, 2015, 06:47:38 PM
Hmm,,,
Well,,I did find something cool over there,,,
I knew it was different from any sks that ive seen,,but I didnt know what it was until I took a closer look at the photos when I got home,,

Its a Chinese Type 63 or 68,,made in factory 26,,although the pic is blurry

Neat little evolution of the sks,,to select fire.

(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z147/jimtoronto/DSCN10931_zps6a3e8e03.jpg) (http://s190.photobucket.com/user/jimtoronto/media/DSCN10931_zps6a3e8e03.jpg.html)
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z147/jimtoronto/DSCN10941_zpsf84b237f.jpg) (http://s190.photobucket.com/user/jimtoronto/media/DSCN10941_zpsf84b237f.jpg.html)
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z147/jimtoronto/DSCN10951_zps9baf1790.jpg) (http://s190.photobucket.com/user/jimtoronto/media/DSCN10951_zps9baf1790.jpg.html)
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z147/jimtoronto/DSCN10971_zpsc08c1e84.jpg) (http://s190.photobucket.com/user/jimtoronto/media/DSCN10971_zpsc08c1e84.jpg.html)
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z147/jimtoronto/DSCN10981_zps8708455c.jpg) (http://s190.photobucket.com/user/jimtoronto/media/DSCN10981_zps8708455c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: CrazySquid on January 03, 2015, 06:50:08 PM
and a few more pics of this rare beast

Funny thing about the Viets and Khmers,,they all call the sks,,ckc. I guess its from a literal translation of Russian,,as the ruskies dont use an s but instead a c.
Well the Khmers were calling this thing a ckc as well,,and Im like,,thats not a ckc guys  :)
Apparently it uses a rotating bolt similar to the AK
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z147/jimtoronto/DSCN10991_zpsd7568f48.jpg) (http://s190.photobucket.com/user/jimtoronto/media/DSCN10991_zpsd7568f48.jpg.html)
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z147/jimtoronto/DSCN11001_zps34cd72b6.jpg) (http://s190.photobucket.com/user/jimtoronto/media/DSCN11001_zps34cd72b6.jpg.html)
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z147/jimtoronto/DSCN10921_zpsbd36eef6.jpg) (http://s190.photobucket.com/user/jimtoronto/media/DSCN10921_zpsbd36eef6.jpg.html)
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on January 03, 2015, 07:19:03 PM
Interesting!!!!!   

I cant make out the serial #.......     banghead1
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: Blicero on January 03, 2015, 07:26:45 PM
That's freaking outstanding. That's a once in a lifetime sight right there, thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: Phosphorus32 on January 03, 2015, 08:21:08 PM
...and an RPK above it!  Cool stuff without a doubt thumb1
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: running-man on January 03, 2015, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on January 03, 2015, 07:19:03 PM
Interesting!!!!!   

I cant make out the serial #.......     banghead1

Arsenal is too washed out for me to make it out, but the S/N sure looks like 11284568 to me.  11th year of T63/68 production could be 1973?  Amazing to see the similarities of these to the 23 mils, 24 mils, & late M21s and their french ticklers and III battle sight settings.  They are clearly closely related to each other, more-so than to the other SKS factories....

Good stuff!  thumb1
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: Justin Hell on January 04, 2015, 02:36:58 PM
Anyone else notice those sight leaf buttons?!

Looks quite similar to my wacky DB huh?

The wrap around handguard is nifty too....weirdness...

Very cool....thanks for sharing the pics!!
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: Dannyboy53 on January 04, 2015, 03:14:25 PM
Incredible! Thanks CrazySquid.
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: Worm on January 04, 2015, 03:59:33 PM
Thanks! This is awesome.

Looks like /26\ to me, and definitely an 11 mill.
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on January 04, 2015, 04:08:25 PM
Incase you guys were wondering what Jianshe was doing from 1970-1978.   thumb1
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: Worm on January 04, 2015, 04:18:27 PM
Hey, while you're there see if you can find any late Chicoms  thumb1
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: Justin Hell on January 05, 2015, 07:03:32 AM
The bayonet itself is baffling. Looks like somewhat akin to a Yugo for the handle...but it almost seems like a blend between a spike and a blade...could just be the pictures but something is odd about the shape of it. The blood grooves seem very deep...

There is so much about this that it is fascinating. I want one.
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: Worm on January 05, 2015, 01:07:44 PM
Quote from: Justin Hell on January 05, 2015, 07:03:32 AM
The bayonet itself is baffling. Looks like somewhat akin to a Yugo for the handle...but it almost seems like a blend between a spike and a blade...could just be the pictures but something is odd about the shape of it. The blood grooves seem very deep...

There is so much about this that it is fascinating. I want one.

I agree, neat bayo.

However, while I think it's cool as hell to see pics of one, i always have thought that that gun is ugly as sin. Lol kind of like a bastard mutant child of a retarded inbred sks.
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on January 05, 2015, 01:31:17 PM
T63/68 Bayo Rifle - Chinese SKS Guide (http://chinesesks.weebly.com/t6368-bayo-rifle.html)
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: Justin Hell on January 05, 2015, 09:32:20 PM
Quote from: Worm on January 05, 2015, 01:07:44 PM
Quote from: Justin Hell on January 05, 2015, 07:03:32 AM
The bayonet itself is baffling. Looks like somewhat akin to a Yugo for the handle...but it almost seems like a blend between a spike and a blade...could just be the pictures but something is odd about the shape of it. The blood grooves seem very deep...

There is so much about this that it is fascinating. I want one.

I agree, neat bayo.

However, while I think it's cool as hell to see pics of one, i always have thought that that gun is ugly as sin. Lol kind of like a bastard mutant child of a retarded inbred sks.

I kinda dig the oddballs...and the gas tube reminds me of wifey.  :)

What is the deal with the bayo mount and handle though, is it perhaps to attach a grenade launcher?  If so, this was quite the 'Swiss Army knife' of SKS's.
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: running-man on January 05, 2015, 09:50:05 PM
Quote from: Justin Hell on January 05, 2015, 09:32:20 PM
What is the deal with the bayo mount and handle though, is it perhaps to attach a grenade launcher?  If so, this was quite the 'Swiss Army knife' of SKS's.

It looks like the lock open on the bayo is two hooks that latch together.  Somewhat like the Yugo 59/66 in that there is no loop that goes over the end of the barrel.

That little gas adjust knob at the front of the gas tube drives me nuts.  Reminds me of an ugly wart on a witch's nose.

It's clear the Chinese took the SKS and tried to make it select fire, with a removable mag, and easy to manufacture.  From what I've heard, I think they essentially failed to varying degrees on all three items.   There's something to be said that it took until the 80's for MO to show them how to do a proper conversion to make an SKS accept stock AK mags.  rofl
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: Worm on January 05, 2015, 10:55:21 PM
I never understood even the attempt.

Didn't they have Ak's? I mean Wtf.
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on January 05, 2015, 11:52:08 PM
Pretty darn sure its based on a rotating bolt design also.... but a real POS from what china interweb states.  Hopefully an importer brings in some cut-up parts kits from Albania.  China sent a metric crap-ton of these to Albania.
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: CrazySquid on January 06, 2015, 09:14:50 AM
Sorry about the blurry serial number photos,,,
The emloyees at the range were kinda rushing me n just wanted me to pay n shoot,,
Ill take a look at the original pics on my computer n see if I can read the serial #s
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: CrazySquid on January 06, 2015, 09:34:42 AM
Quote from: running-man on January 03, 2015, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on January 03, 2015, 07:19:03 PM
Interesting!!!!!   

I cant make out the serial #.......     banghead1

Arsenal is too washed out for me to make it out, but the S/N sure looks like 11284568 to me.  11th year of T63/68 production could be 1973?  Amazing to see the similarities of these to the 23 mils, 24 mils, & late M21s and their french ticklers and III battle sight settings.  They are clearly closely related to each other, more-so than to the other SKS factories....

Good stuff!  thumb1

I just looked at the original pics and your guess on the serial #s seems bang on. As for the production factory,,ya its too blurry but I specifically looked at that when I was there and it was a 26
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: Dannyboy53 on January 06, 2015, 08:02:13 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on January 05, 2015, 11:52:08 PM
Pretty darn sure its based on a rotating bolt design also.... but a real POS from what china interweb states.  Hopefully an importer brings in some cut-up parts kits from Albania.  China sent a metric crap-ton of these to Albania.

So we may be seeing more of this very unusual carbine? I agree with Worm, this critter is ugly but very fascinating!
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on January 07, 2015, 02:31:39 PM
No different then the torched AK kits.....  just a matter of an importer using their brains and bringing them in.  Im sire nodak will be happy to supply receivers etc.
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: CrazySquid on March 01, 2015, 12:22:26 AM
Well. i wont get back there until early next yr,, but if it's still there Ill take more photos including of its interior n try shooting it. Since the employees just called it
an sks,, they may be surprised if I get this thing firing on full auto :)
Title: Re: On the prowl in Cambodia
Post by: CrazySquid on May 01, 2015, 07:51:12 PM
Ok ya, goin back in January,, Wife wants to visit her home town of Saigon during the Vietnamese Tet,, so, being so close, We will head back to Cambodia n if this sucker is still there, Ill open her up for more photos on the internals.