And i dont mean the car. :P
I figured if my prime minister wanted to give me free corona money then i should spend it on something dear to his heart.
I have no idea what im dealing with yet, this is the stickiest grease i have ever known.
First pic to keep you happy.
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Congrats on the new rifle. Take a lot of photos and post when she's all cleaned up.
That bluing looks quite nice thru the grease. Stock looks mint also. Congrats.
Looks like you got a nice one Newchi! These were rare as hens teeth for the longest time up there, I take it there have been newly arrived commercial imports and these are selling at retail now? How do they compare pricewise with the plentiful Russian and Chinese SKS’s you guys have? Does the canadian government add any restrictions because of the grenade launcher? (These are illegal to own in California, way too dangerous just in case some yahoo got his hands on some surplus grenades) dash3 hunter)
Nice one, newchi! You really get an appreciation for that grease by the time the rifle's clean! chuckles1 And it's great "bonding" time with your new firearm. :)
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beauty, thanks for sharing. thumb1
Quote from: running-man on April 29, 2020, 10:40:16 PM
Looks like you got a nice one Newchi! These were rare as hens teeth for the longest time up there, I take it there have been newly arrived commercial imports and these are selling at retail now? How do they compare pricewise with the plentiful Russian and Chinese SKS’s you guys have? Does the canadian government add any restrictions because of the grenade launcher? (These are illegal to own in California, way too dangerous just in case some yahoo got his hands on some surplus grenades) dash3 hunter)
They were really hard to find, they came in about 9 months ago i think
These cost about 2 x a russian or 3 x a chinese right now. $700, ($500 US).
More than i wanted to pay but i have learned if you dont buy them when they arrive they dont get any cheaper.
No the launcher on the end doesnt seem to matter, whos crazy enough to try and make their own grenades... ::)
Quote from: firstchoice on April 30, 2020, 02:11:40 AM
Nice one, newchi! You really get an appreciation for that grease by the time the rifle's clean! chuckles1 And it's great "bonding" time with your new firearm. :)
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I have never seen grease like it, its like flypaper. i lost my latex gloves to it. I feel like a cartoon character, get one hand stuck try to free it with another, now its stuck.
My degreser doesnt touch it. The oven barely worked and really really stank the house out.
I put the bolt in boiling hot water and got that to wipe clean. :o.
Its not like Russian or Chinese grease, this may take a while...
Gasoline, acetone, and charcoal lighter fluid all work well to get cosmoline off the metal bits.
Save the hard work for the wood.
i resorted to spray engine degreaser, took about 15 mins to seperate the stock! i even went back inside and took another one apart to make sure i was doing it right.
But on the plus side, if you ever hear of a ship full of them that sunk to the bottom of the ocean, i am sure they will still be in perfect condition.
Heres a question for you yugo owners, do yugos have a kinda not really finished all the way look/feel to the stock?
Its like it wasnt shellaced/varnished/whatever.
All i did was a couple of quick wipes with mineral spirit to try and make it less sticky so i dont think it was me. dntknw1
Quote from: newchi on June 10, 2020, 10:03:44 PM
Heres a question for you yugo owners, do yugos have a kinda not really finished all the way look/feel to the stock?
Its like it wasnt shellaced/varnished/whatever.
All i did was a couple of quick wipes with mineral spirit to try and make it less sticky so i dont think it was me. dntknw1
You're correct. They are basically just elm, presumably with a petroleum-based oil. Of course I've never seen a Yugoslavian that didn't come into the states in Cosmoline (or in modern times, Tectyl 502-C), so the petroleum oil could be due to the leftovers from the preservative oil. Post-WWII Yugoslavian Mausers (M48s especially but also M24/47s and M24/52s that have replacement stocks) have a similar oil based "raw" feel to the stocks.
You're expecting an American or "civilized" European finish.
Some countries did what they did to get stuff in the field.
Oh, thanks. I was worried id screwed something up.
Is there anything i should do to the wood if the sticky tetris 501-k ever stops coming out?
Quote from: newchi on June 11, 2020, 12:07:30 AM
Oh, thanks. I was worried id screwed something up.
Is there anything i should do to the wood if the sticky tetris 501-k ever stops coming out?
Personally, I would stick with petroleum based products on a Yugoslavian stock. Keep sweating out the Tectyl with mild heat. Wiping down with mineral spirits is fine if you don’t like the oily feel but it may look “dry” (the surface oils are depleted). If you don’t mind the oily feel I’d use Ballistol or mineral oil to wipe it down and rub off the excess.
Ballistol is basically just mineral oil and isobutanol. The isobutanol is a somewhat polar solvent so it can help pull out some dirt but some people think it smells like licorice and others rancid butter. I’m in the middle it’s not a really pleasant smell but it’s not terrible. In any case, the isobutanol evaporates within a few hours.
i had it in an old pickup on the dash in a black bag and towel for 2 weeks and very little happened, of course it wasnt been super hot yet but i was hoping for more, which is why i went with mineral spirits, something ive never had to do before.
Supposed to be stupid hot this weekend, maybe it will go back on the dash for a bit.
Yep, it does look a little dry.
We can sweat stocks out fairly quickly here in Arizona.
A black trash bag and a mess of paper towels makes a pretty quick job of it.
Beautiful rifle! Congratulations!
im embarrassed to ask this but how the hell do you get the grenade sight down again?
It was a **** to get upin the first place, because of the cosmo (i assume)
You mean to rotate the ladder back down? I don’t believe there is a catch, it should just rotate right on back down. To lock it in place once it’s down the gas cutoff needs rotated, but I’ve always assumed that was the hard part in the process, not the initial rotation. I’ll pull my yugo tomorrow morning before work and verify for you. Maybe you need a bit more persuasion? :))
It's just a detent holding it in place.
Give it a gentle slap with the heel of your hand and you'll be good to go.
i can really push on it, frightenly hard and it doesnt move. I will try and clean the pins and catch area some more today
Put your hand a few inches away and slap it near the top.
You don't need to hit it with a hammer, but realize that it wasn't supposed to move when launching grenades, so it's pretty rugged.
Use a bit more force than you think it should take and it will lay down for you.
Sorta like dating girls from New York....... :o bat1 rofl
Quote from: Larry D. on July 01, 2020, 11:52:47 AM
Put your hand a few inches away and slap it near the top.
You don't need to hit it with a hammer, but realize that it wasn't supposed to move when launching grenades, so it's pretty rugged.
Use a bit for force than you think it should take and it will lay down for you.
Sorta like dating girls from New York....... :o bat1 rofl
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
treat it like a those old break action pelet guns, quick little slap should break it free and get her going.
Well, if i ever go to New York i will keep that in mind. rofl
You were right, slap it and it folds, lean on it with all your bodyweight and it doesnt.
Thanks.
I might even get this thing finished today.
Its back together finally.
I wont say its completly clean, but enough to use.
It is fairly typical, all matching with restamped stock.
If i ever had to do this again i would spay the living heck out of it with wd40 first and let it soften the cosmoline before degreasing.
The mineral spirits on the stock dried it a bit so i used some boiled linseed oil, and now its a different sticky and stinky
Did you figure out that the gas cutoff will come right out of the gas block?
Quote from: Larry D. on July 01, 2020, 11:41:06 PM
Did you figure out that the gas cutoff will come right out of the gas block?
No, i did not. Is it worth doing before i use it?
I would just take a peek in there to be sure it's clean.
It's really easy to do.
i assume the button just unscrews?
Easier than that.....
With the grenade sight up, take a close look at it. Depress it slightly and rotate it to the cutout and it'll come right out.
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