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Title: Stock wobble
Post by: ArkSlim on March 04, 2020, 05:51:41 AM
Have about 1/8 in up and down movement in front of stock below gas tube where it should sit in the ferrule.
Title: Re: Stock wobble
Post by: owenj492 on March 04, 2020, 10:18:19 AM
As far as I know, there are two stocks, one for the pinned barrel and another for the threaded barrel, top picture is for pinned barrel, second picture is for threaded barrel, I don't remember which type but the wrong stock will have some slack causing the barreled receiver to slide back and forth:


(https://i.ibb.co/HFLxZrG/Pinned-Barrel.jpg) (https://ibb.co/f1VnJCr)

(https://i.ibb.co/303SBvc/Threaded-Barrel.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MRvPMf7)
Title: Re: Stock wobble
Post by: running-man on March 04, 2020, 11:11:25 AM
Is it the original stock for the gun?

Up and down movement is usually caused by a poorly done rabbet cut on the front of the stock that fits into the ferrule though owenj is correct that the spike and blade cut stocks have crossbolts that don't line up well with the front of the receiver (causing forward to rear movement).   

Take these Sino-Banian examples:

(https://i.ibb.co/TtfxXkC/148251-front-ferrule.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/8D6zKzh/2403298-stock-ferrule.jpg)

Original stocks almost never have this issue.  Replacement stocks very often may.  Shimming is the only way I can think of to make the current stock fit more tightly.  Oftentimes, replacing the stock is an easier & more permanent solution.
Title: Re: Stock wobble
Post by: Larry D. on March 04, 2020, 12:15:19 PM
RM gets bonus points for the proper use and spelling of the word rabbet..... :P
Title: Re: Stock wobble
Post by: running-man on March 04, 2020, 12:59:20 PM
Quote from: Larry D. on March 04, 2020, 12:15:19 PM
RM gets bonus points for the proper use and spelling of the word rabbet..... :P

Laugh,

I knew it was different but not 100% how it was spelled....I cheated and looked it up.  rofl
Title: Re: Stock wobble
Post by: ArkSlim on March 04, 2020, 04:37:12 PM
The stock is a laminated Russian (replacement '55) on a '52 bbl. The ferrule looks to fit  except for the up & down movement it is cut for the blade bayonet. Have to check if it is for a pinned or the other bbl.
Title: Re: Stock wobble
Post by: running-man on March 04, 2020, 11:31:57 PM
All Russian SKS45s were long barrel lug guns, so you should be set there.  Odd that it has so much up and down play though.  The Russian armorers usually fit their replacement stocks pretty well.   dntknw1 
Title: Re: Stock wobble
Post by: ArkSlim on March 05, 2020, 07:15:45 PM
I have a used yugo in fair shape guess I could see if it would work wink1
Title: Re: Stock wobble
Post by: Greatguns on March 06, 2020, 12:36:48 PM
Don't change stocks, you just need to fix the fit of the one you have.

Does the stock have play at the cross-bolt or is it tight there and thus pivot, or rock, at the back against the FCG? Sometimes it is not noticed because o the tension spring underneath the FCG in the stock.

If play at the cross-bolt then shim or build up at the cross-bolt. If it rocks/pivots at the cross-bolt then shim/build up under the FCG around the tension spring.

Title: Re: Stock wobble
Post by: Bubbazinetti on March 08, 2020, 07:58:41 PM
I've had to inlet and/or shim every replacement stock for every firearm I've ever had to do that to for a nice tight fit.
Title: Re: Stock wobble
Post by: ArkSlim on March 09, 2020, 02:30:43 PM
does not seem any play at cross bolt plau is at the front of the stock under the gas tube.  What is the FCG?
Title: Re: Stock wobble
Post by: echo1 on March 09, 2020, 03:22:56 PM
Quote from: ArkSlim on March 09, 2020, 02:30:43 PM
does not seem any play at cross bolt plau is at the front of the stock under the gas tube.  What is the FCG?

I believe GG is talking about the trigger group. PAX
Title: Re: Stock wobble
Post by: ArkSlim on March 09, 2020, 03:26:17 PM
thanks
Title: Re: Stock wobble
Post by: Larry D. on March 10, 2020, 02:31:12 AM
FCG = Fire Control Group
Title: Re: Stock wobble
Post by: Bob_The_Student on March 10, 2020, 04:50:47 AM
FCG - F'ing Commie Grip? 

Just funn'in!
Title: Re: Stock wobble
Post by: ArkSlim on March 10, 2020, 07:04:12 AM
10-4  and there is a cross bolt there also thankyou1
Title: Re: Stock wobble
Post by: Greatguns on March 10, 2020, 10:25:20 AM
Arkslim, pop out your FCG and remove the spring underneath then reinstall your FCG. If the stock then rocks back and forth on the cross bolt it is indicating you need to shim under the FCG at the spring location.
If there is relatively no play in the stock at the back after removing the spring then you should shim at the top of the cross-bolt where the action rests on it in order to take up the play.
One of those two options should take care of your problem. Remember to reinstall your spring when finished.
Title: Re: Stock wobble
Post by: Larry D. on March 10, 2020, 10:49:46 AM
Great tip, GG!

Thanks.
Title: Re: Stock wobble
Post by: ArkSlim on March 10, 2020, 04:10:21 PM
Thanks Greatguns did as you recomended and found the play was at the cross bolt. tried several shim thicknesses  got one that worked now only have almost no movement where there was @1/8th in. Now I can install my new spring loaded fp that I received today and see how it works. Thanks to "all"  who advised me in getting repairs made. thumb1
Title: Re: Stock wobble
Post by: Larry D. on March 10, 2020, 11:01:35 PM
Quote from: ArkSlim on March 10, 2020, 04:10:21 PM
Thanks Greatguns did as you recomended and found the play was at the cross bolt. tried several shim thicknesses  got one that worked now only have almost no movement where there was @1/8th in. Now I can install my new spring loaded fp that I received today and see how it works. Thanks to "all"  who advised me in getting repairs made. thumb1

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Title: Re: Stock wobble
Post by: ArkSlim on March 11, 2020, 06:50:21 AM
Can not beat this site for good information with an occasional  welcomed bit of humor thumb1
Title: Re: Stock wobble
Post by: Greatguns on March 11, 2020, 06:49:44 PM
Glad I could help.