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Title: Bayonet ferrule replacement help
Post by: echo83 on October 12, 2019, 03:51:33 PM
I'm trying to replace the stock on my SKS. I have a ferrule designed for a blade bayonet, but I currently have given up on finding an affordable blade bayonet to fit it.

I'm thinking about replacing my stock and using a dremel to make space in the blade ferrule for the spike bayonet. Is this less labor intensive than replacing the ferrule, and will it actually work?
Title: Re: Bayonet ferrule replacement help
Post by: echo1 on October 13, 2019, 02:54:18 PM
Kinda depends on the replacement stock you acquire (cut for blade or a spiker), and it sounds like you have a long lug rifle, so you'll need the correct furniture. You're not going to replace the ferrule without much, much effort. If it's all matching otherwise, I wouldn't do it, just because, but it's your gun and all that. I waited 3 years before I found an acceptable deal on a blade bayo. A dremal cut will work, but a small triangle file might be better. There's no turning back once you put the steel to it. PAX
Title: Re: Bayonet ferrule replacement help
Post by: echo83 on October 13, 2019, 07:38:05 PM
The replacement stock I want would be for a spike bayonet, because I've had zero luck finding an acceptable deal for a blade. (Everything I have found starts at $75.00 or more.)

I kind of figured the ferrule would be impossible to replace; by design, it looks like it's not supposed to be removed, so I'm kind of happy to leave it as is.

I'm not sure if I have a long lug rifle or not.

Everything is matching, except my current stock (a replacement) and the spike bayonet (a replacement.) I know my rifle is a ghost that was a victim/beneficiary of the "Albanian Refurbishment Program," depending on how you look at it.

I really don't want to do any damage, but I don't want a droopy bayonet, either.
Title: Re: Bayonet ferrule replacement help
Post by: echo1 on October 13, 2019, 09:16:32 PM
A numbers matching rifle with a blade bayo is likely a long lug. Do your homework on it, or you can end up with the wrong wood.
Is there something wrong with the correct stock?
Notch the bayo to fit the ferrule, and wait for the right one to show up. PAX
Title: Re: Bayonet ferrule replacement help
Post by: echo83 on October 17, 2019, 07:24:33 PM
Quote from: echo1 on October 13, 2019, 09:16:32 PM
A numbers matching rifle with a blade bayo is likely a long lug. Do your homework on it, or you can end up with the wrong wood.
Is there something wrong with the correct stock?
Notch the bayo to fit the ferrule, and wait for the right one to show up. PAX

Makes sense. Nothing the matter with the stock, it's just beaten up. The spike bayo droops enough that it doesn't even come in contact with the ferrule.

Here are some photos, I've since flipped the bayo so it isn't upside down.

https://sks-files.com/index.php?topic=4467.0 (https://sks-files.com/index.php?topic=4467.0)

I think I'll just wait for the right deal on a blade bayonet, and avoid messing with it any further.
Title: Re: Bayonet ferrule replacement help
Post by: Phosphorus32 on October 18, 2019, 05:42:27 AM
Since it’s a “ghost”, it’s a long-lug threaded barrel. A later stock for a Type 56 originally fitted for a spike bayonet will either be from a short-lug threaded barrel or a pressed and pinned barrel Type 56, so it will not fit, as received.

If you can overcome your proper fit OCD, leave it as and use it. Enjoy it knowing that this is how the Albanians used it, so though it isn’t “correct” in an “as-issued” sense, it is historically correct.
Keep casually looking for a deal on a blade bayonet.
If your proper fit OCD exceeds your thriftiness OCD, just pay the price for the blade rofl
If the converse is true, notch the ferrule and inlet the stock to fit the spike bayonet better.
Title: Re: Bayonet ferrule replacement help
Post by: echo83 on October 18, 2019, 08:07:51 AM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on October 18, 2019, 05:42:27 AM
Since it’s a “ghost”, it’s a long-lug threaded barrel. A later stock for a Type 56 originally fitted for a spike bayonet will either be from a short-lug threaded barrel or a pressed and pinned barrel Type 56, so it will not fit, as received.

If you can overcome your proper fit OCD, leave it as and use it. Enjoy it knowing that this is how the Albanians used it, so though it isn’t “correct” in an “as-issued” sense, it is historically correct.
Keep casually looking for a deal on a blade bayonet.
If your proper fit OCD exceeds your thriftiness OCD, just pay the price for the blade rofl
If the converse is true, notch the ferrule and inlet the stock to fit the spike bayonet better.

Seems like a reasonable approach.  Thanks for talking me off the ledge! Everything fits correctly as is, except for the bayonet. Getting another stock would be like starting over, I guess. I'll keep an eye out for a blade bayonet.
Title: Re: Bayonet ferrule replacement help
Post by: GuitarmanNick on October 18, 2019, 09:54:12 AM
When I got my SKS it did not have it's bayonet. I was fortunate to find the correct bayonet and rivet but ran into a loose fit. A little attention in a couple of key areas of the mating surfaces tightened it right up when folded. A quick cold blue treatment to them and it's beauty has been restored.

If using a rivet as some SKSs require, fit everything before flaring the rivet to secure the bayonet.
Title: Re: Bayonet ferrule replacement help
Post by: running-man on October 18, 2019, 10:25:23 AM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on October 18, 2019, 05:42:27 AM
If your proper fit OCD exceeds your thriftiness OCD, just pay the price for the blade rofl
If the converse is true, notch the ferrule and inlet the stock to fit the spike bayonet better.

Laugh, I wonder how many of us fit either description Jon?  My thriftiness OCD is certainly a force to be reckoned with!  thumb1
Title: Re: Bayonet ferrule replacement help
Post by: Greasemonkey on October 18, 2019, 12:53:06 PM
Let me just correct your last statement RM  :)


Quote from: running-man on October 18, 2019, 10:25:23 AM
My OCD is certainly a force to be reckoned with!  thumb1

There thats more truthful ;)
Yes, yes it is..  rofl rofl2 thumb1
Title: Re: Bayonet ferrule replacement help
Post by: Phosphorus32 on October 18, 2019, 02:03:50 PM
Quote from: running-man on October 18, 2019, 10:25:23 AM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on October 18, 2019, 05:42:27 AM
If your proper fit OCD exceeds your thriftiness OCD, just pay the price for the blade rofl
If the converse is true, notch the ferrule and inlet the stock to fit the spike bayonet better.

Laugh, I wonder how many of us fit either description Jon?  My thriftiness OCD is certainly a force to be reckoned with!  thumb1

Yup, this wasn't a theoretical discussion, definitely some obsessive compulsiveness in my genes  rofl For me, it's generally manifested as obsession with originality of the milsurp, and secondly as the cheapest deal I can arrange.
Title: Re: Bayonet ferrule replacement help
Post by: running-man on October 18, 2019, 06:38:13 PM
Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 18, 2019, 12:53:06 PM
Let me just correct your last statement RM  :)


Quote from: running-man on October 18, 2019, 10:25:23 AM
My OCD is certainly a force to be reckoned with!  thumb1

There thats more truthful ;)
Yes, yes it is..  rofl rofl2 thumb1


DOH!

(https://i.ibb.co/WGddxzv/RM.jpg) (https://i.ibb.co/1Zf4wm7/get-along.jpg)


Title: Re: Bayonet ferrule replacement help
Post by: echo83 on October 19, 2019, 04:29:51 PM
I'm glad it's not just me. This thread turned from a technical question to a support group pretty quickly, but I'm glad it's not just me.
Title: Re: Bayonet ferrule replacement help
Post by: Larry D. on October 19, 2019, 09:55:25 PM
Hi.
My name is Larry, and I'm an SKS-a-holic.......
Title: Re: Bayonet ferrule replacement help
Post by: Bacarnal on November 04, 2019, 12:46:51 PM
Echo, just as a heads up, have you tried Ebay for the blade?  I recently needed a spike, but saw blades on there for $40-$50.  I know they aren't the favorites of most people, but the do have some needed stuff.  Cheers, Bruce.