I love it when guns are poorly represented in auction descriptions. One picture of the left side, and identified only as Chinese Type-56 with spike bayonet.
No mention of the Public Security stamps on the right side receiver. :)
Freakin' brand new. Unissued, still in cosmoline, /416\ Arsenal, 18 million serial from around 1973, just a real dandy.
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Very nice pick up! thumb1 Those /416\ PS carbines are beauties!
Poulin's two picture approach to presentation of their lots does them no favors either. It's a bit like gambling if you're an internet bidder. There were some really interesting pieces in that last auction. A bunch of really rare Hi Powers caught my eye but I just didn't want any of them as much as the other bidders.
That is just so disgustingly......nice. thumb1
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on October 24, 2018, 11:55:28 AM
Very nice pick up! thumb1 Those /416\ PS carbines are beauties!
Poulin's two picture approach to presentation of their lots does them no favors either. It's a bit like gambling if you're an internet bidder. There were some really interesting pieces in that last auction. A bunch of really rare Hi Powers caught my eye but I just didn't want any of them as much as the other bidders.
Yeah, one of the mid-range High Powers had to come home with me. Needed a pre-war with tangent sight and slot to legally go with my stock.
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Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 24, 2018, 12:18:56 PM
That is just so disgustingly......nice. thumb1
And I was forced to buy another rifle to get this Public Security SKS, but it is right up your alley GM. A French made Mauser .22lr training rifle, the MAS Model 45. Also unissued.
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Love the MAS.. thumb1 drool2 Thats one rifle that just doesn't show up everyday. I found one missing the front sight hood, said it's either this one or wait for another to appear...who knows when.... it had an old nasty, near as I can tell French sling on it. I have since replaced the sight hood and actually found 2 extra magazines. I cleaned the sling up too :)
Interesting how light your stock is, mine has a very dark wood with a few arsenal repairs, which I guess the wood is walnut. I'm guessing it was reworked then thrown in storage. I don't think it was shot much after import, based on the amount of goop in the bolt..the firing pin would barely move.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/waqrw35qmax8bji/SAM_2319_zpsgvh05iwg.jpg?dl=0)
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Love them both thumb1 I was salivating heavily over the Lithuanian but it went about $800 higher than I wanted to go rofl
Looks like the MAS 45 has an SN about 3000 earlier than my 3 consecutive numbered examples (2 in wrap). They seem to have had a lot of those in Maine. Any import marks on yours?
The MAS has an apparent new beech stock, new sling, new mags... everything as new.
The import mark is so lightly struck, it is illegible.
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Quote from: Phosphorus32 on October 24, 2018, 01:54:18 PM
They seem to have had a lot of those in Maine.
Seem to have a bunch of juicy stuff in......Maine. I'm still torn...between do I want hot and humid, jungle butt Appalachian summers or blue ball chattering winters in Maine. rofl2
I hate cold.
Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 24, 2018, 02:09:43 PM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on October 24, 2018, 01:54:18 PM
They seem to have had a lot of those in Maine.
Seem to have a bunch of juicy stuff in......Maine. I'm still torn...between do I want hot and humid, jungle butt Appalachian summers or blue ball chattering winters in Maine. rofl2
I hate cold.
Yeah, I left Minnesota 25 years ago and haven't had any desire to move back (even though I love the state) for it's two seasons, Winter and Road Construction.
Quote from: martin08 on October 24, 2018, 02:01:38 PM
The MAS has an apparent new beech stock, new sling, new mags... everything as new.
The import mark is so lightly struck, it is illegible.
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That is light and discreet. Mine, mysteriously don't have any.
The shoulder stock with the appropriately machined Hi Power is very nice 8) Now you can shoot (lob) out to 500 m
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on October 24, 2018, 02:24:09 PM
The shoulder stock with the appropriately machined Hi Power is very nice 8) Now you can shoot (lob) out to 500 m
Yes, the 500m range is very important. One can never get close enough to dispatch snowy owls, puffins, Canadian lynx, or monarch butterflies with a regular handgun.
Guess they learned....a pair of Germans during a quiet period......Scotty, give it all shes got.....Dammit Jim...It just wont reach, it's a pistol, not a artillery gun ..
awe, screw it...get the Gustav rofl2 chuckles1
800 meters with a 9mm was really stretching it.. so lets kick'er back a notch to 500 and see if it works any better.
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Quote from: martin08 on October 24, 2018, 11:33:04 AM
I love it when guns are poorly represented in auction descriptions. One picture of the left side, and identified only as Chinese Type-56 with spike bayonet.
No mention of the Public Security stamps on the right side receiver. :)
Freakin' brand new. Unissued, still in cosmoline, /416\ Arsenal, 18 million serial from around 1973, just a real dandy.
(https://i.imgur.com/CSmcxT8l.jpg)
Beautiful /416\ Public Security Type 56, martin08! Mine is just 80 rifles previous to yours.
(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20SKS%20762x39-Chinese%20Security%20Forces%20SKS/SAM_2906.jpg)
I got lucky on mine, too. Still in the grease, not a dent or scratch in the wood, looks brand new. This one you've acquired would only be outdone by your /26\ PS gun. thumb1 I believe it's a 8 million series, isn't it? That's a beauty, as well!
firstchoice
Quote from: firstchoice on October 26, 2018, 08:45:25 AM
Quote from: martin08 on October 24, 2018, 11:33:04 AM
I love it when guns are poorly represented in auction descriptions. One picture of the left side, and identified only as Chinese Type-56 with spike bayonet.
No mention of the Public Security stamps on the right side receiver. :)
Freakin' brand new. Unissued, still in cosmoline, /416\ Arsenal, 18 million serial from around 1973, just a real dandy.
(https://i.imgur.com/CSmcxT8l.jpg)
Beautiful /416\ Public Security Type 56, martin08! Mine is just 80 rifles previous to yours.
(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/firstchoice14/Chinese%20SKS%20762x39-Chinese%20Security%20Forces%20SKS/SAM_2906.jpg)
I got lucky on mine, too. Still in the grease, not a dent or scratch in the wood, looks brand new. This one you've acquired would only be outdone by your /26\ PS gun. thumb1 I believe it's a 8 million series, isn't it? That's a beauty, as well!
firstchoice
Those two together could star in a Public Security Doublemint commercial. :)
If only we could narrow down the dating system to find out what their (likely) shared birthday was...y'all could get together and shoot a cake or somethin'... rofl2
I keep hoping to find a PS locally on the sly someday...as time goes on, more and more keen eyes keep snatching them up though. Great scores, both of you!
I wonder how much time passed between these in manufacturing.. were they a few hours apart, a shift or a few days.. Did the same guy build or stamp them all?
mine is 645 higher than M08s.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/lvl63yvwxb257e3/SAM_3434.JPG?dl=0)
It's now like Larry, Moe..... and Shemp rofl2
Okay, I’ll play :)) mine’s 4174 earlier than Matt’s
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Quote from: Justin Hell on October 26, 2018, 10:22:04 AM
If only we could narrow down the dating system to find out what their (likely) shared birthday was...y'all could get together and shoot a cake or somethin'... rofl2
I keep hoping to find a PS locally on the sly someday...as time goes on, more and more keen eyes keep snatching them up though. Great scores, both of you!
Total production in 1975 at /416\ was at least 40000 based on the collected serial data (there are 4 odd ball serial numbers at the end of the list that I disregarded). Assuming linear production, that would be 769 per week. Further assume they're
not using the Chinese calendar for industrial operations and tracking, then M08's rifle would have been made in the middle of the 50th week, or around Saturday December 13, 1975...but that's a lot of assumptions rofl
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on October 26, 2018, 12:30:26 PM
Quote from: Justin Hell on October 26, 2018, 10:22:04 AM
If only we could narrow down the dating system to find out what their (likely) shared birthday was...y'all could get together and shoot a cake or somethin'... rofl2
I keep hoping to find a PS locally on the sly someday...as time goes on, more and more keen eyes keep snatching them up though. Great scores, both of you!
Total production in 1975 at /416\ was at least 40000 based on the collected serial data (there are 4 odd ball serial numbers at the end of the list that I disregarded). Assuming linear production, that would be 769 per week. Further assume they're not using the Chinese calendar for industrial operations and tracking, then M08's rifle would have been made in the middle of the 50th week, or around Saturday December 13, 1975...but that's a lot of assumptions rofl
Whoa :o P32's inner geek is showing rofl2
Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 26, 2018, 12:38:06 PM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on October 26, 2018, 12:30:26 PM
Quote from: Justin Hell on October 26, 2018, 10:22:04 AM
If only we could narrow down the dating system to find out what their (likely) shared birthday was...y'all could get together and shoot a cake or somethin'... rofl2
I keep hoping to find a PS locally on the sly someday...as time goes on, more and more keen eyes keep snatching them up though. Great scores, both of you!
Total production in 1975 at /416\ was at least 40000 based on the collected serial data (there are 4 odd ball serial numbers at the end of the list that I disregarded). Assuming linear production, that would be 769 per week. Further assume they're not using the Chinese calendar for industrial operations and tracking, then M08's rifle would have been made in the middle of the 50th week, or around Saturday December 13, 1975...but that's a lot of assumptions rofl
Whoa :o P32's inner geek is showing rofl2
My inner geek, my outer geek, it's kinda hard to hide it when you're a scientist think1 chuckles1
Mine was made on its own separate day. You guys will have to get your own day of production and not take mine.
Q to P32: 1975? Or 1973?
Quote from: martin08 on October 26, 2018, 02:37:29 PM
Mine was made on its own separate day. You guys will have to get your own day of production and not take mine.
Q to P32: 1975? Or 1973?
I can multiply but I can't add rofl Call it Thursday December 13, 1973 thumb1
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on October 26, 2018, 03:09:39 PM
Quote from: martin08 on October 26, 2018, 02:37:29 PM
Mine was made on its own separate day. You guys will have to get your own day of production and not take mine.
Q to P32: 1975? Or 1973?
I can multiply but I can't add rofl Call it Thursday December 13, 1973 thumb1
A scientist.............. that cant add.. :o rofl2 It's the simple things...I know chuckles1
Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 26, 2018, 03:13:51 PM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on October 26, 2018, 03:09:39 PM
Quote from: martin08 on October 26, 2018, 02:37:29 PM
Mine was made on its own separate day. You guys will have to get your own day of production and not take mine.
Q to P32: 1975? Or 1973?
I can multiply but I can't add rofl Call it Thursday December 13, 1973 thumb1
A scientist.............. that cant add.. :o rofl2 It's the simple things...I know chuckles1
Hey, it's Friday and I'm up to my neck in report writing, spreadsheet populating, coffee drinking...ugh, brain's fried :-[ rofl
So I can make a cake on Thursday December 13, 2018, and it will be officially 45 years old.
:)
Quote from: martin08 on October 26, 2018, 03:48:57 PM
So I can make a cake on Thursday December 13, 2018, and it will be officially 45 years old.
:)
Absolutely, that's its 100%
(uh, 1% ?) guaranteed birthday chuckles1
.365%? I checked 1973 wasn't a leap year (- .104% margin of error if they didn't do weekends)
rofl
Talkin' about misrepresented: just snagged a minty M21 for $105 at an online estate sale. It was listed as "Old Chinese Rifle"!!!!
Recently picked up a very nice estate sale Public Security - cheap! Listing read: "Old Chinese rifle"!!!
Quote from: Matchka on December 09, 2018, 02:44:22 PM
Recently picked up a very nice estate sale Public Security - cheap! Listing read: "Old Chinese rifle"!!!
You picked up a stamped
M21 that is also stamped with
公安, the
PS rifle ideograph? That's something new to me and I'd love to see a full pic layout of it, and all
7 of your
PS guns. That's a decent collection of PS guns. You need to collect the other three arsenals for a full representation!
firstchoice
I'll add the tasker for pics to my to-do list!