I took a few pictures of my '54 Izhevsk to demonstrate serial number configuration over on the Gunboards Forum.
Might as well post them here, too! Serial has single Cyrillic prefix and single suffix.
Also note the 'dip line' on the gold bayonet.
(https://i.imgur.com/onUSeOVl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lRYczfIl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/i1VuwL3l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/KiplrkLl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vDcg4Lql.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7Jt75u2l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/v2g9O1wl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hJMstlel.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pr99n8Cl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kumMSW9l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/cIDJXQ7l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VQfCVUhl.jpg)
That’s an absolute beauty from the capital of the Udmurt Republic! 8) The stocks on original Izhevsks are some of my favorites. I’d never noticed that the “gold” bayonets had that indicator of dipping. My only example is on a ‘54 Tula but the coating is thin and/or worn. I’ll have to study it later.
neat, thanks for sharing. thumb1
What does the O and R above the serial number stand for??
Quote from: sagesbrush on October 03, 2018, 11:40:15 PM
What does the O and R above the serial number stand for??
The importer transliterated the Cyrillic O and P to O and R. The ATF does not accept Cyrillic or any “non-standard” alphabet letters.
As a side note, this was only done by Century in the '92 to '96 series of Russian imports. NHM, CDI, and KDI all assigned new S/N's such that they didn't have to translate the Cyrillic. Of course the IO & TGI Russian 'sneaks' from the recent 2012-2016 Sino-banian import batch have neither a translation or a new S/N (in direct violation of ATF rules...but then again, them being Russian SKSs is already a violation of the Voluntary Restraint Agreement of '96 so which is worse? chuckles1) thumb1
Thanks for all the great information. Your really helping my learning curve!!
Beautiful Russian Redskin Chief. Bout time you brought that soldier out for Coffee and a few pics. You should sell it to me before you realize what there worth these days rofl2.. And thank your Senator for doing the right thing to Keep America Great ! I think She's your Senator.. That Warrior in the pics is one of my top 5 favorites. They just don't get any better : )
Sorry for he newbie question. Why do the non-refurb rifles have the strip of matt finish, as compared to the top and bottom portions, on the receiver top cover? Initially I thought it had something to do with the making of the top cover, but I believe I noticed a picture of one of the Letter Rifles with no makings on the top cover that had the same matt strip in the middle of the cover.
Thanks
Quote from: jithaca on November 18, 2018, 03:08:59 AM
Sorry for he newbie question. Why do the non-refurb rifles have the strip of matt finish, as compared to the top and bottom portions, on the receiver top cover? Initially I thought it had something to do with the making of the top cover, but I believe I noticed a picture of one of the Letter Rifles with no makings on the top cover that had the same matt strip in the middle of the cover.
Thanks
Its a common feature on the top covers, it doesn't seem specific to any one nation and can vary in size, the exception, some Yugoslavian SKSs at times don't show the stripe.. We believe it's due to a hardening process on the ends, and a refurb could scrub and reblue/BBQ paint and make it very faint, at least until some of the blueing wears off. From left to right...M59 Yugoslavian(almost non-existent), a random Chinese, Romanian and an Albanian(has a very faint stripe).
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/0gkltrvjn0v7fx6/SAM_0476_zpsf3479679.jpg?dl=0)
I had no idea that one member could have so many California compliant rifles in a gun friendly zone like West Virginia ! You better sent those to me and start collecting more of what West Virginians are capable of.. chuckles1.. Youll have to sent the Ammo to my FFL dealer though if you don't mind bat1
Hater's gonna hate huh, Correct Direction.. rofl2 That's West"ern" Virginia..... it's a whole whopping 30 miles for me to West byGod Virginia.
Just cause it's CA compliant....don't mean I wanna subject, traumatize and scare them with fires, mudslides, drought, earthquakes and Nancy Pelosi. chuckles1
Quote from: Greasemonkey on November 18, 2018, 07:57:34 PM
Hater's gonna hate huh, Correct Direction.. rofl2 That's West"ern" Virginia..... it's a whole whopping 30 miles for me to West byGod Virginia.
Just cause it's CA compliant....don't mean I wanna subject, traumatize and scare them with fires, mudslides, drought, earthquakes and Nancy Pelosi. chuckles1
Don’t lie! Yeah you do!
Quote from: Worm on November 18, 2018, 10:15:07 PM
Quote from: Greasemonkey on November 18, 2018, 07:57:34 PM
Hater's gonna hate huh, Correct Direction.. rofl2 That's West"ern" Virginia..... it's a whole whopping 30 miles for me to West byGod Virginia.
Just cause it's CA compliant....don't mean I wanna subject, traumatize and scare them with fires, mudslides, drought, earthquakes and Nancy Pelosi. chuckles1
Don’t lie! Yeah you do!
Whoa... There is a blast from the past.. the Worm is in da house. :o
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on October 04, 2018, 05:24:22 AM
Quote from: sagesbrush on October 03, 2018, 11:40:15 PM
What does the O and R above the serial number stand for??
The importer transliterated the Cyrillic O and P to O and R. The ATF does not accept Cyrillic or any “non-standard” alphabet letters.
This is not frowned upon for value of gun for collectors? Or is this just understood to abide by the rules?
Quote from: Bob_The_Student on December 17, 2018, 02:51:07 PM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on October 04, 2018, 05:24:22 AM
Quote from: sagesbrush on October 03, 2018, 11:40:15 PM
What does the O and R above the serial number stand for??
The importer transliterated the Cyrillic O and P to O and R. The ATF does not accept Cyrillic or any “non-standard” alphabet letters.
This is not frowned upon for value of gun for collectors? Or is this just understood to abide by the rules?
It's an annoyance, but not a ding on value to me because it's common to a lot/most of the Russians.
I can't offer anything towards the origin or data on the gun, But I really like it, and it looks terrific. I would be proud to own it :)
Oh, good lord I am not saying anything negative about that beauty. I'm just asking in general. Just FYI, so Martin don't cut me off from his wisdom. LOL