I was on the fence as I watched several batches of these come and go at PSA, I read hours and hours of reviews on nearly every source I could find online. Towards the end of September, I put one in my cart and got in contact with my FFL friend back home, and was all set up to place an order. Placed the order on 9/30, and the next day PSA was "Out of Stock". I got shipping notification on 10/7, and it arrived at my FFL on 10/10. I picked it up from him the next weekend, 10xxx serial number, and overall I am very pleased with it, fit, finish, etc... No sticky take down pins, no grit in the folder, no canted sights. The magazine that was loose in the box showed a little wear, but the rest were unissued, and all fit snug. The only thing that seemed odd is it appeared to be fired. I ran a couple patches down the bore and sure enough powder residue. Wiped out the receiver, bolt, etc and more residue. Has anyone else here who has ordered one of these recently showed up this way? Phosphorus32? I believe you ordered one recently.
As I wait to take it out and shoot it this weekend, I have disassembled and assembled this thing about a dozen times. So far I am really impressed with it, and can't wait to put some rounds down the tube.
I haven't taken any pictures, since I am sure you all have seen them around.
Brian
Im wondering if it was simply from being test fired after assembly.
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on October 28, 2014, 12:09:00 PM
Im wondering if it was simply from being test fired after assembly.
I was thinking that too, but I bought a storage/carry case from a member on another board, and he said his showed up clean, but bone dry. Mine was bone dry, just appeared to be fired. Not much a couple patches and hoppes down the bore and she was good to go. Not really a big deal, I just wanted to see if anyone else experienced this.
I also picked up one of these.
https://www.cncwarrior.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=23263 (https://www.cncwarrior.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=23263)
And some extra mags
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=448301875 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=448301875)
Awesome Brian! I have been sorely tempted to get a VZ2008 before the supply dries up, but the cash and wifey's approval are lacking.
Like with the CZ-82s which were plentiful back in 2013 @ $249.99 with two magazines and accessories but then suddenly dried up, I'm likely going to wait too long on this one and be on the outside looking in. I was a bit bummed that the recent offerings are minus the bayonet.
Post up some pictures when you get a chance if you can! Maybe I can use them to help sway the wifey in my direction!
Yes, my pre-firing patches came out slightly dirty too. I've been very happy with mine overall. I got the same muzzle brake that you ordered and I like it. Minimal muzzle climb and easy on the shoulder, even with that rather minimal folding stock. My wife, step-son and step-daughter have fired and enjoyed it too.
Quote from: running-man on October 28, 2014, 12:53:11 PM
Awesome Brian! I have been sorely tempted to get a VZ2008 before the supply dries up, but the cash and wifey's approval are lacking.
Like with the CZ-82s which were plentiful back in 2013 @ $249.99 with two magazines and accessories but then suddenly dried up, I'm likely going to wait too long on this one and be on the outside looking in. I was a bit bummed that the recent offerings are minus the bayonet.
Post up some pictures when you get a chance if you can! Maybe I can use them to help sway the wifey in my direction!
RM, I was the same way, and have been watching them on sale since June, and finally decided to pull the trigger after I sold a couple of my RTI sks's locally. After I got mine they came back for sale without the bayonet, which isn't a deal breaker for me. It is cool, but still can be found all over the auction sites. I'll get some pictures up, and a range report this weekend.
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on October 28, 2014, 01:04:09 PM
Yes, my pre-firing patches came out slightly dirty too. I've been very happy with mine overall. I got the same muzzle brake that you ordered and I like it. Minimal muzzle climb and easy on the shoulder, even with that rather minimal folding stock. My wife, step-son and step-daughter have fired and enjoyed it too.
P32, thanks for the feedback, I was just fearful that maybe I got a returned one, but with the 10XXX serial # I think I am good. Did yours come with a leather sling or canvas? Mine came with what appears to be an AMD65 Sling.
Like this:
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/bbush44/AMD65_sling05.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/bbush44/media/AMD65_sling05.jpg.html)
Instead of the canvas I have seen others receive.
Like this:
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/bbush44/VZ58_Sling01.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/bbush44/media/VZ58_Sling01.jpg.html)
Brian
I would have bought one long ago if they would have shipped the mags with it to my state... But they won't. So I haven't bought one and probably won't. Good deal though.
I didn't notice muzzle climb with my D-Techniks when compared to a regular Ak, on the Vz2008, after having the full stocked Vz 58, the folder had to go. There is a bit of difference between the two when shouldered. The phenolic stock looks beefy and weighty, but, it's very light and mostly hollow.
I've been looking around for the full stock in beaver barf, just to try, but haven't pulled the trigger yet. Some of those wood sets look pretty nice also, but not $200+ nice.
200? :o If you go Ironwood stocks yea, about 220 something last I looked. I've seen complete wood stock sets between 90 and 170, fleabay has them listed, usually you can find the original Czech wood.
The beaver barf butt stock complete ready to install from Czechpoint is 130, you can go through Numrich and score all the parts for a fixed barf butt stock for maybe 70 bucks, give or take a few dollars.
Quote from: bbush44 on October 28, 2014, 02:15:37 PM
Did yours come with a leather sling or canvas? Mine came with what appears to be an AMD65 Sling.
Like this:
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/bbush44/VZ58_Sling01.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/bbush44/media/VZ58_Sling01.jpg.html)
Brian
Mine came with a like-new/unissued canvas sling, 5 mags, the 4-pocket mag pouch and bayonet with scabbard.
Quote from: Greasemonkey on October 28, 2014, 09:03:38 PM
200? :o If you go Ironwood stocks yea, about 220 something last I looked. I've seen complete wood stock sets between 90 and 170, fleabay has them listed, usually you can find the original Czech wood.
The beaver barf butt stock complete ready to install from Czechpoint is 130, you can go through Numrich and score all the parts for a fixed barf butt stock for maybe 70 bucks, give or take a few dollars.
I have seen some decent deals on fleabay on the beaver barf stocks, but they didn't have any of the hardware. I didn't even think to look at Numrich for the hardware. banghead1
I am sure others will show up. I have even seen some full parts kits with the full stock go for reasonable prices on gb, but it was tough to bid we I haven't even shot it yet.
Thanks for the info.
Brian
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on October 28, 2014, 11:16:21 PM
Mine came with a like-new/unissued canvas sling, 5 mags, the 4-pocket mag pouch and bayonet with scabbard.
Interesting, mine is like-new/unissued leather sling (AMD65?), 1 mag loose in the box that shows some wear, 4 mags in the mag pouch that look unissued. The mag pouch looks like-new/unissued with some mold or something. ??? Bayonet and scabbard look new/unissued, and a cleaning kit.
Quote from: bbush44 on October 29, 2014, 09:24:35 AM
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on October 28, 2014, 11:16:21 PM
Mine came with a like-new/unissued canvas sling, 5 mags, the 4-pocket mag pouch and bayonet with scabbard.
Interesting, mine is like-new/unissued leather sling (AMD65?), 1 mag loose in the box that shows some wear, 4 mags in the mag pouch that look unissued. The mag pouch looks like-new/unissued with some mold or something. ??? Bayonet and scabbard look new/unissued, and a cleaning kit.
Oh yeah, I forgot about the cleaning kit. My mag pouch was "broken in" but still in good shape. The bayonet was like new. Sounds like the accessories are randomly chosen. The magazines were all used in good to excellent condition. That reminds me that I only took a couple to the range, so I need to function test the other three since some people have had trouble with the odd magazine. You can probably come out even or slightly ahead selling off the AMD sling and buying the VZ appropriate canvas sling which are still available at some of the milsurp parts vendors.
My ole man (slumberingbear) recently bought one. Very happy with it. thumb1
The bayo looked used but in great condition while the sling was new new... and def a VZ sling.
I got to do some shooting yesterday, and took the VZ2008 out for her first spin. I put 150 rounds through her without any hiccups, and got to say she is really a nice shooter. I don't have any paper to show since we only shot gongs, bowling pins and pumpkins, but she was dead on out of the box. I didn't want to be bothered so I left my phone in the truck and only have a couple pictures one of the other guys took of the guns laid out on the table before hand. I took my VZ2008, Russian "sneak" SKS, and my AK. The rest of the plastic crap is theirs.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/bbush44/1591_resized.jpeg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/bbush44/media/1591_resized.jpeg.html)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/bbush44/1587_resized.jpeg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/bbush44/media/1587_resized.jpeg.html)
Glad you enjoyed it and it ran well for you :)
I'm really pleased with mine and haven't had any problems with it...other than a self induced one (flipped the safety lever the wrong way ??? Note to self: it is not full auto but there is an empty notch in the rotation of the safety lever that is essentially another "safe" setting).
You definitely have the nicest looking firearms on the table. I have my black guns too but there's nothing like wood (or beaver barf) furniture for looks.
That Russian Sneak is a lady amongst little prepubescent girls laying on that table! clap1
Good deal Brian! You guys are killing me with all this VZ2008 talk! I don't need one at all, but man I'd sure like one!
Quote from: running-man on November 10, 2014, 01:07:45 PM
That Russian Sneak is a lady amongst little prepubescent girls laying on that table! clap1
Good deal Brian! You guys are killing me with all this VZ2008 talk! I don't need one at all, but man I'd sure like one!
YOU need at least one!!! rofl
(http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af283/C13mechanic/Vz58%20Vz2008/Vz%2058/HPIM0229_zps19303524.jpg) (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/C13mechanic/media/Vz58%20Vz2008/Vz%2058/HPIM0229_zps19303524.jpg.html)
(http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af283/C13mechanic/Vz58%20Vz2008/Ak%20vs%20Vz/SAM_1097_zpsc92fe67f.jpg) (http://s1016.photobucket.com/user/C13mechanic/media/Vz58%20Vz2008/Ak%20vs%20Vz/SAM_1097_zpsc92fe67f.jpg.html)
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on November 10, 2014, 12:43:44 PM
Glad you enjoyed it and it ran well for you :)
I'm really pleased with mine and haven't had any problems with it...other than a self induced one (flipped the safety lever the wrong way ??? Note to self: it is not full auto but there is an empty notch in the rotation of the safety lever that is essentially another "safe" setting).
You definitely have the nicest looking firearms on the table. I have my black guns too but there's nothing like wood (or beaver barf) furniture for looks.
Thanks P32, I didn't notice that on my safety, but I will check it out. I was surprised how much louder the VZ2008 was compared to my sks and ak shooting the same round.
Quote from: running-man on November 10, 2014, 01:07:45 PM
That Russian Sneak is a lady amongst little prepubescent girls laying on that table! clap1
Good deal Brian! You guys are killing me with all this VZ2008 talk! I don't need one at all, but man I'd sure like one!
RM- Both of the other guys that shot my VZ2008 yesterday now want one. I have been so tempted to order another, just because I doubt they will ever be this cheap again. The best part about yesterday was my friends $2k custom built AR-15 wouldn't run through a 20 round mag without issues. :o I ran 5 30 round mags through my VZ2008, 5 30 round mags through my WASR-10, and 10 stripper clips through my Russian sneak without even one issue on either of them. thumb1
Mine has what appears to be a canted front sight. Never noticed it until I put the FAB Arms hanguard on with picatinny rail. With the rail I can look down through the V in the rail and see the front sight is canted but strangely it's shooting right on to POA at the range .
It also had the gremlin where about every third shot the trigger would not reset.
Sent the bolt carrier out to get "tabbed" and put in new recoil springs.
It appears the problem is solved. 200 rounds down the tube since with no issues thumb1
Quote from: Garand1957 on December 19, 2014, 05:01:13 PM
Mine has what appears to be a canted front sight. Never noticed it untill I put the FAB Arms hanguard on with piatinny rail. With the rail I can look down through the V in the rail and see the front sight is canted but strangely it's shooting right on to POA at the range .
It also had the gremlin where about every third shot the trigger would not reset.
Sent the bolt carrier out to get "tabbed" and put in new recoil springs.
It appears the problem is solved. 200 rounds down the tube since with no issues thumb1
Garand-
When did you order yours? Or what is your serial # range? Mine is 10xxx, everything I have been able to find online people are stating the later batches have seen very few "gremlin" issues. I originally planned to get my bolt tabbed just for the piece of mind, but after shooting it I figured I would wait to see if it ever shows up.
Brian
Got it like the end of June this year. Have to check the serial # when I get home.
Having the tab welded on makes the bolt carrier like the Czech Point rifle and seems to cure the problem for most people.
It's serial #VZ08-000621
Hmmm ... Does that mean I have the 621st VZ2008 made by Century ?
No wonder it had so many problems :(
Quote from: Garand1957 on December 19, 2014, 10:08:07 PM
It's serial #VZ08-000621
Hmmm ... Does that mean I have the 621st VZ2008 made by Century ?
No wonder it had so many problems :(
I won't claim that I am very knowledgeable about the Century VZ2008, but reading over here
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=64608.0 (http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=64608.0)
It seemed the earlier serial #'s were the ones that had multiple issues. Could explain yours.
There was also a thread at czfirearms where they were tracking serial #'s ,when they showed and ones that had issues. For some reason I can not find that thread now.
I bought myself one for Christmas. Runs like a top, the folder is a pain in the patutie to get open/closed, you have to have it in just the right spot to depress the button, not sure how to get that to work better, but other than that, I love it!!!!
Got mine when they were offered for $379 with 3 mags, sling, cleaning kit (no bayonet).
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u142/panoz77/PC290003_zps8f24cae9.jpg) (http://s167.photobucket.com/user/panoz77/media/PC290003_zps8f24cae9.jpg.html)
I added a foam pad to the folding arm and secured it with velcro.
Picked up an original VZ58 bipod. Solid steel legs and a folding swivel that allows it to tuck under the stock. The swivel also allows left/right movement when extended for use. It doesn't add too much weight. Not sure how it'll affect accuracy since it's attached via the bayonet mount.
It's a tight little package when it's folded and wrapped.
(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/VZ2008/cfc76bbe-a2c1-4b4f-abb6-d69663f6d2ee.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/VZ2008/cfc76bbe-a2c1-4b4f-abb6-d69663f6d2ee.jpg.html)
(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/VZ2008/IMG_8008.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/VZ2008/IMG_8008.jpg.html)
(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/VZ2008/IMG_8006.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/VZ2008/IMG_8006.jpg.html)
(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z475/phosphorus32/VZ2008/IMG_8005.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/phosphorus32/media/VZ2008/IMG_8005.jpg.html)
Very nice! I have been eyeballing the bipods, but just haven't pulled the trigger yet. cry1 Where did you end up getting yours from?
Where did the rifle satchel come from? Mongo want!!!! bat1
Quote from: Greasemonkey on January 19, 2015, 01:28:25 PM
Where did the rifle satchel come from? Mongo want!!!! bat1
I've got the same one, I got it from jason bourne off the "other" sks website. :) I believe that is where P32 got his also.
I have seen other versions on ebay, but not the exact one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261551505489?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/261551505489?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
I really wanted one of these, but missed the lot he had.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161477234643?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/161477234643?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
Yup, I got the VZ58 rifle case from Jason Bourne. Appears to be NOS. Nice thick canvas.
The bipod I got from a group buy run by member "RSR" on "The Original CZ Forum". It wasn't cheap at $96 shipped but it appears to be NOS military surplus and came in some Cosmoline like substance that he had sprayed with WD-40 before shipping to soften it up. No flaws in the finish that I could see and it mounts/folds/extends/swivels as intended. Looks like he has a wait list for the batches he got but there have been some non-responders from the original list so it may be worth inquiring.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=63700.150;topicseen
Thanks P32, I seen that group buy, but thought it had all ended and were spoken for. Now that I re-read it I see there are 5 that haven't been claimed yet so I put my name on the list.
Quote from: Phosphorus32 on January 19, 2015, 03:31:49 PM
Yup, I got the VZ58 rifle case from Jason Bourne. Appears to be NOS. Nice thick canvas.
The bipod I got from a group buy run by member "RSR" on "The Original CZ Forum". It wasn't cheap at $96 shipped but it appears to be NOS military surplus and came in some Cosmoline like substance that he had sprayed with WD-40 before shipping to soften it up. No flaws in the finish that I could see and it mounts/folds/extends/swivels as intended. Looks like he has a wait list for the batches he got but there have been some non-responders from the original list so it may be worth inquiring.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=63700.150;topicseen
So it only fits folding stocks? Both my Vz58 and Vz2008 are fixed socks, I didn't like the folder.
Correct it will only fit with the folding stock.
Only one I have seen for the fixed stock, but it is new production. To me it just looks kind of cheesy.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321625391632?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/321625391632?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
Quote from: bbush44 on January 19, 2015, 04:13:42 PM
Correct it will only fit with the folding stock.
Only one I have seen for the fixed stock, but it is new production. To me it just looks kind of cheesy.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321625391632?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/321625391632?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
Laff... looks like a gun sock wkth a patch.
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on January 22, 2015, 10:24:42 AM
Quote from: bbush44 on January 19, 2015, 04:13:42 PM
Correct it will only fit with the folding stock.
Only one I have seen for the fixed stock, but it is new production. To me it just looks kind of cheesy.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321625391632?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/321625391632?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
Laff... looks like a gun sock wkth a patch.
I thought all the quotations in the description was the best part. rofl
Quote
Designed specifically for the VZ-58 (SA58) and fits it like a glove. Intended to protect your rifle while its stored in your safe. for your AIRSOFT rifle also. However, most use it to go from the safe, to the range and back to the safe.
Perfect for storing the VZ-58 in your TRUNK !!! (Since its the perfect trunk gun)
Handmade in the USA with high quality %100 Cotton Canvas "Duck Cloth". Czechoslovakian flag sewn onto the SAC.
The bottom of the SAC is held closed with 3/16inch "shock" elastic cord and a plastic cord lock.
They are stitched with a high strength "Delta" stitch which uses 4 times the normal thread. Built to last !!!.