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Title: Earliest non-/26\ Arsenals?
Post by: Boris Badinov on April 06, 2017, 09:27:58 PM
My post count isn't high enough yet to access the serial data-- so I'm curious what are the earliest serials for non-/26\ arsenals.

I have a 7th year (seven digit) carbine Stamped from /6166\ or /6616\, but I'm curious to find out if there are possibly any 6th year non-/26\ guns and, how many other arsenals were producing in the early 60's? And in what year the evidence indicates that the other arsenals started showing up? Was it a steady build up or did a whole bunch of arsenals just start producing the type56 in a short span of time?

Thanks,

Boris B.
Title: Re: Earliest non-/26\ Arsenals?
Post by: Boris Badinov on April 06, 2017, 09:32:32 PM
Wait!

I just realized that my 7th /6166\ might actually be an early 70's gun.

Anyone care to enlighten me?
Title: Re: Earliest non-/26\ Arsenals?
Post by: Boris Badinov on April 06, 2017, 09:38:11 PM
Serial number 7001271. Short lug. So obivously not a 7th year carbine.

Disregard most of my initial post.

I've answered most of my questions over at chinesesks dating page.

New Question:

Did the other arsenals show up en masse or does the serial evidence show a steady and gradual increase in the number of typr56 arsenals?
Title: Re: Earliest non-/26\ Arsenals?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on April 06, 2017, 09:39:41 PM
11th year from /106\ and /116\
Title: Re: Earliest non-/26\ Arsenals?
Post by: Boris Badinov on April 06, 2017, 09:51:13 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on April 06, 2017, 09:39:41 PM
11th year from /106\ and /116\

Were they low output arsenals?

I know the /26\ serials suggest that over half a million were produced at Jianshe in the 11th year.

Thanks
Title: Re: Earliest non-/26\ Arsenals?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on April 06, 2017, 09:53:00 PM
Maybe 20k a year
Title: Re: Earliest non-/26\ Arsenals?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on April 06, 2017, 10:12:05 PM
QuoteDid the other arsenals show up en masse or does the serial evidence show a steady and gradual increase in the number of typr56 arsenals?

Would seem like a ramp up and then a drop off near the end
Title: Re: Earliest non-/26\ Arsenals?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on April 06, 2017, 10:18:26 PM
Quote from: Boris Badinov on April 06, 2017, 09:32:32 PM
Wait!

I just realized that my 7th /6166\ might actually be an early 70's gun.

Anyone care to enlighten me?

There isnt a 6166  :-\
Title: Re: Earliest non-/26\ Arsenals?
Post by: running-man on April 06, 2017, 10:31:34 PM
/?5\ also has year 11's as does /416\.  Not terribly many of them around though.

Your /6166\ is very likely a 70's gun.  Hard to say w/o seeing it.
Title: Re: Earliest non-/26\ Arsenals?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on April 06, 2017, 10:38:01 PM
Where is this 6166?   I must be over looking it.  :-\
Title: Re: Earliest non-/26\ Arsenals?
Post by: Boris Badinov on April 06, 2017, 10:48:16 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on April 06, 2017, 10:38:01 PM
Where is this 6166?   I must be over looking it.  :-\

or possibly 6616
http://forums.gunboards.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1808417&d=1482195886
Title: Re: Earliest non-/26\ Arsenals?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on April 06, 2017, 10:49:11 PM
Ok Boris...   Time to pony up a picture.   bat1

:))
Title: Re: Earliest non-/26\ Arsenals?
Post by: Boris Badinov on April 06, 2017, 10:51:19 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on April 06, 2017, 10:49:11 PM
Ok Boris...   Time to pony up a picture.   bat1

:))

too lazy right now to dump it in the photobucket. but theres the link above.

sorry, it came out upside down.
Title: Re: Earliest non-/26\ Arsenals?
Post by: Greasemonkey on April 06, 2017, 10:53:21 PM
Yeah...quit beating around the bush, enough yadda yadda, blah blah..... show it.  :)

We like pictures. thumb1


Nevermind....
Geeze...I gotta go there... uhm no thanks.
Title: Re: Earliest non-/26\ Arsenals?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on April 06, 2017, 10:54:41 PM
6616... NOW WE GETTING SOMEWHERE!

What was the question again?   rofl


(http://sks-files.com/Themes/1080/images/Arsenals/tiles3.png)
Title: Re: Earliest non-/26\ Arsenals?
Post by: Boris Badinov on April 06, 2017, 10:55:17 PM
i did. link is above but here it is again.
http://forums.gunboards.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1808417&d=1482195886
Title: Re: Earliest non-/26\ Arsenals?
Post by: Boris Badinov on April 06, 2017, 10:59:59 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on April 06, 2017, 10:54:41 PM
6616... NOW WE GETTING SOMEWHERE!

What was the question again?   rofl


I forget.


...

I figured out my initial inquiry: this isn't a 7th year gun. Its a 15th year gun 1970.


Secondary question was how quickly or steadily did the non-26 arsenal appear. In a flash  or gradually over a long period of years? Did the majority of them show up en masse when /26\ went off line in the 70s?



[also, where do babies come from? (this may be the most important question)]
Title: Re: Earliest non-/26\ Arsenals?
Post by: Loose}{Cannon on April 06, 2017, 11:15:20 PM
Reply #6
Title: Re: Earliest non-/26\ Arsenals?
Post by: Boris Badinov on April 06, 2017, 11:18:59 PM
Quote from: Loose}{Cannon on April 06, 2017, 11:15:20 PM
Reply #6

Ah. somehow missed that.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Earliest non-/26\ Arsenals?
Post by: running-man on April 06, 2017, 11:38:26 PM
I'd consider that a 1970 built gun Boris. Looks like a nice one at that.  thumb1

There was a smattering of arsenals at year 11, then they slowly opened up more through year 16 when /26\ stopped producing. Lots of arsenals opened up shop after that.  By year 25, only a few of the higher producing small shops remained and the latest year for a new build military gun I've seen is year 29.