Here is the final month's tally for 2016 of the commercial guns. A few diamonds in the rough in there. Enjoy.
# sold: 33
Lowest Sale Price: $350.00
Avg. Sale Price: $571.68
Highest Sale Price: $880.00
Avg. Price AK Variants: $617.22
Avg. Price Paratrooper Variants: $422.60
Please let me know any feedback (good or bad) to these.
If you have an objection or observation to add to anything I've listed, by all means call it out. Let's look at it long and hard (I only look at each listing for a minute or two at most) and maybe everyone can learn a thing or two! thumb1
-RM
Item Link Description # Bids Final Price Commercial Chinese Type Commercial Chinese Condtion Current Condition RM's Notes
605024519 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=605024519) NORINCO CHINESE SKS 7.62MM SEMI-AUTO W/SCOPE 1 $350.00 K-Sports Hunter Bubba Fair
605982051 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=605982051) Chinese Norinco SKS 7.62X39 "PARATROOPER CARBINE"! 17 $361.50 K-Sports Paratrooper Hunter As-Imported Good
604739506 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=604739506) Chinese Type 56 Paratrooper Sniper SKS Carbine 16” With Red Star 2.7X18 Scope In 89 Mount + Brake 7 $645.00 NA Paratrooper (w/rail) As-Imported Good Nice package.
606037981 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=606037981) NORINCO SKS COWBOY 7.62X39 # 9505 2 $455.00 NA Paratrooper (w/rail) Bubba Fair Neat gun with a type 89 scope mount and scope transit case. You don’t see these everyday.
603684226 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=603684226) SKS Paratrooper Norinco All Matching As New 2 $495.00 Paratrooper Bubba Good
605968915 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=605968915) [2582] Chinese Paratrooper SKS 762 x 39 semi auto 1 $479.99 Paratrooper As-Imported Fair Rusty Gold?
607304275 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=607304275) Norinco SKS 7.62 X 39 2 $407.00 Paratrooper Bubba Good What's with the postage stamp sized photos?!
604094495 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=604094495) 6618 Norinco SKS carbine 7.62X39 Chinese 3 $375.00 Paratrooper Bubba Good
603180405 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=603180405) Norinco sks 22 $356.00 Paratrooper As-Imported Good Hidden paratrooper gem here.
606864815 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=606864815) RARE Norinco SKS Factory Scope Mount 7.62x39 Rifle EXCELLENT KFS IMPORT KINGS SPIKE BAYONET NICE NICE 25 $737.00 PU Sniper As-Imported Very Good Wow that's a nice one!
607515529 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=607515529) Norinco SKS Type 63 SKS Takes AK Magazines Pristine Condition 13 $652.00 SKS 63 As-Imported Good
602507840 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=602507840) NORANCO SKS USES AK MAGS 8 $505.00 SKS 63 Bubba Fair
605893078 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=605893078) NORINCO SKS-D ALL MATCHING USES AK-47 MAGS AK47 24 $880.00 SKS D As-Imported Good
603564832 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=603564832) Norinco Vintage SKS Rifle Takes AK 47 Magazines 1 $795.00 SKS D As-Imported Good
604265497 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=604265497) NORINCO SKS-D ALL MATCHING USES AK-47 MAGS AK47 26 $776.00 SKS D As-Imported Good
603171943 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=603171943) Norinco SKS Model D AK-47 AK47 AK 7.62x39 5 $656.99 SKS D As-Imported Good
606066919 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=606066919) SKS Chinese Rifle, Model M, PRE BAN 3 $650.00 SKS D Bubba Good
603010362 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=603010362) Beta Arms 88 Norinco SKS 7.62x39mm AK Mags Pre-Ban 25 $616.00 SKS D As-Imported Good
603560482 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=603560482) NEW OLD STOCK CHINA NORINCO SKS M 7.62 X 39MM AK 1 $850.00 SKS M As-Imported Good
603106283 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=603106283) Norinco SKS M 7.62X39 Paratrooper Takes AK Mags 3 $805.00 SKS M As-Imported Good
605384844 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=605384844) SKS M Norinco Chinese China paratrooper FREE SHIP 7.62x39 mm like new, all numbers matching 9MM 4 $641.00 SKS M As-Imported Good
604621708 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=604621708) SKS Model M Norinco Chinese polytech Conn legal! 8 $551.00 SKS M As-Imported Good
604093461 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=604093461) Norinco SKS M AK mags 7.62X39 1 $549.95 SKS M Bubba Fair
607796013 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=607796013) SKS M, Takes AK Mags, 16in Barrel SKS M, Takes AK Mags, 16in Barrel 7 $545.00 SKS M As-Imported Good
605546926 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=605546926) Chinese Norinco SKS w/Scope 9 $446.00 SKS M Bubba Good
607286139 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=607286139) Norinco SKS Sporter 7.62x39 Takes AK mags Pre Ban 1 $775.00 SKS Sporter As-Imported Good
603384177 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=603384177) Norinko SKS Sporter SKS 16 $650.00 SKS Sporter As-Imported Very Good Horsetrash listing for a very nice gun.
608136392 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=608136392) Norinco SKS Sporter, Chinese 7.62x39 11 $520.00 SKS Sporter As-Imported Good
609040861 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=609040861) Norinco sks Sporter takes AK Mags 2 $480.00 SKS Sporter As-Imported Good
603937530 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=603937530) 1993 Norinco SKS SPORTER 1993 Norinco SKS SPORTER USES AK-47 MAGS AK47 1 $450.00 SKS Sporter Bubba Fair Wow, words fail me.
602534533 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=602534533) Sks sporter / sks ak mags 7 $405.00 SKS Sporter As-Imported Good
606043220 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=606043220) Norinco SKS 7.62x39 (G-2654-1 CK) 10 $380.00 SKS Sporter Bubba Poor Holy crap! That's all I can say: HOLY CRAP!
607176011 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=607176011) SKS Sporter, M Type, AK Magazines 11 $625.00 Uncertain Bubba Uncertain Went all out on that single photo didn't you?
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q647/jelucer/Auction_images/2016/201612_Chinese_Commercial.jpg)
604739506 Chinese Type 56 Paratrooper Sniper SKS Carbine 16” With Red Star 2.7X18 Scope In 89 Mount + Brake 7 $645.00 NA Paratrooper (w/rail) As-Imported Good Nice package.
^ That one is a Cowboy Companion, and a really nice one at that with the proper scope and mount.
606037981 NORINCO SKS COWBOY 7.62X39 # 9505 2 $455.00 NA Paratrooper (w/rail) Bubba Fair Neat gun with a type 89 scope mount and scope transit case. You don’t see these everyday.
^ Listed as a Cowboy, but it's not. Just a standard NA para, with a NA installed scope and rail. The lock tab is broken off the rail too (common).
604094495 6618 Norinco SKS carbine 7.62X39 Chinese 3 $375.00 Paratrooper Bubba Good
^ This is not a bubba job. This is an early Cowboy Companion, that used the mid mount scope. This is exactly how the gun came from NA, aside from missing the scope and mount. I haven't been watching much GB the past month or so, or I might have pulled the trigger on this one. I have the proper mount and scope for it...
606864815 RARE Norinco SKS Factory Scope Mount 7.62x39 Rifle EXCELLENT KFS IMPORT KINGS SPIKE BAYONET NICE NICE 25 $737.00 PU Sniper As-Imported Very Good Wow that's a nice one!
^ This one has me a little baffled. Not sure where that price tag comes from. It IS a KFS PU sniper, but it's got the wrong scope on it, and it's had finish work done. It's not as it would have come from Keng's. <shrug>
605893078 NORINCO SKS-D ALL MATCHING USES AK-47 MAGS AK47 24 $880.00 SKS D As-Imported Good
603564832 Norinco Vintage SKS Rifle Takes AK 47 Magazines 1 $795.00 SKS D As-Imported Good
604265497 NORINCO SKS-D ALL MATCHING USES AK-47 MAGS AK47 26 $776.00 SKS D As-Imported Good
603171943 Norinco SKS Model D AK-47 AK47 AK 7.62x39 5 $656.99 SKS D As-Imported Good
606066919 SKS Chinese Rifle, Model M, PRE BAN 3 $650.00 SKS D Bubba Good
603010362 Beta Arms 88 Norinco SKS 7.62x39mm AK Mags Pre-Ban 25 $616.00 SKS D As-Imported Good
^ *SKS-30 ;)
Quote from: Power Surge on January 20, 2017, 06:31:02 PM
604094495 6618 Norinco SKS carbine 7.62X39 Chinese 3 $375.00 Paratrooper Bubba Good
^ This is not a bubba job. This is an early Cowboy Companion, that used the mid mount scope. This is exactly how the gun came from NA, aside from missing the scope and mount. I haven't been watching much GB the past month or so, or I might have pulled the trigger on this one. I have the proper mount and scope for it...
Uh Sal, missing both mount and scope means this is a bubba gun. Someone has 'improved' it and w/o a considerable amount of work, it'll never be like it was when it was imported. thumb1
Quote from: Power Surge on January 20, 2017, 06:31:02 PM
605893078 NORINCO SKS-D ALL MATCHING USES AK-47 MAGS AK47 24 $880.00 SKS D As-Imported Good
603564832 Norinco Vintage SKS Rifle Takes AK 47 Magazines 1 $795.00 SKS D As-Imported Good
604265497 NORINCO SKS-D ALL MATCHING USES AK-47 MAGS AK47 26 $776.00 SKS D As-Imported Good
603171943 Norinco SKS Model D AK-47 AK47 AK 7.62x39 5 $656.99 SKS D As-Imported Good
606066919 SKS Chinese Rifle, Model M, PRE BAN 3 $650.00 SKS D Bubba Good
603010362 Beta Arms 88 Norinco SKS 7.62x39mm AK Mags Pre-Ban 25 $616.00 SKS D As-Imported Good
^ *SKS-30 ;)
Yeah, not worth my time to update the databases from the previous 11 months to match December. Decided to keep things consistent even though the desigators are wrong. Same with "Type 84's" and "Midwest Ordinance".
If I keep the commercial GB posts going into next year, I'll update everything to reflect the current status quo.
Quote from: running-man on January 20, 2017, 08:35:09 PM
Quote from: Power Surge on January 20, 2017, 06:31:02 PM
604094495 6618 Norinco SKS carbine 7.62X39 Chinese 3 $375.00 Paratrooper Bubba Good
^ This is not a bubba job. This is an early Cowboy Companion, that used the mid mount scope. This is exactly how the gun came from NA, aside from missing the scope and mount. I haven't been watching much GB the past month or so, or I might have pulled the trigger on this one. I have the proper mount and scope for it...
Uh Sal, missing both mount and scope means this is a bubba gun. Someone has 'improved' it and w/o a considerable amount of work, it'll never be like it was when it was imported. thumb1
Quote from: Power Surge on January 20, 2017, 06:31:02 PM
605893078 NORINCO SKS-D ALL MATCHING USES AK-47 MAGS AK47 24 $880.00 SKS D As-Imported Good
603564832 Norinco Vintage SKS Rifle Takes AK 47 Magazines 1 $795.00 SKS D As-Imported Good
604265497 NORINCO SKS-D ALL MATCHING USES AK-47 MAGS AK47 26 $776.00 SKS D As-Imported Good
603171943 Norinco SKS Model D AK-47 AK47 AK 7.62x39 5 $656.99 SKS D As-Imported Good
606066919 SKS Chinese Rifle, Model M, PRE BAN 3 $650.00 SKS D Bubba Good
603010362 Beta Arms 88 Norinco SKS 7.62x39mm AK Mags Pre-Ban 25 $616.00 SKS D As-Imported Good
^ *SKS-30 ;)
Yeah, not worth my time to update the databases from the previous 11 months to match December. Decided to keep things consistent even though the desigators are wrong. Same with "Type 84's" and "Midwest Ordinance".
If I keep the commercial GB posts going into next year, I'll update everything to reflect the current status quo.
You know I was just teasing with the SKS-30 thing :)
As for the Bubba designation, I thought that was meant for guns that have been modified or altered. I didn't think if a gun had a scope removed that counted, but I guess it's the same premise. But for this particular rifle, I was thinking you saw the receiver holes as something bubba did.
No worries. I didn't catch the midrail CC as I labeled it a paratrooper. Good catch there, I'll update it when I get a chance.
Odd that there were so many SKS-30s this month. We'll get them all sorted out by next year.
Quote from: running-man on January 20, 2017, 09:13:23 PM
No worries. I didn't catch the midrail CC as I labeled it a paratrooper. Good catch there, I'll update it when I get a chance.
Odd that there were so many SKS-30s this month. We'll get them all sorted out by next year.
Lots of Ms and Sporters too, and some good deals on a few of them. And even a 63 and an NR/93. Seeing a lot of the AK mag guns selling now.
"It IS a KFS PU sniper, but it's got the wrong scope on it, and it's had finish work done. It's not as it would have come from Keng's. "
What is the proper scope for one of these? Can you clarify "finish work done to it".
Or is it easier to explain how it would have originally come for Keng's.
Thanks for any clarification.
Quote from: PSKS on January 29, 2017, 07:20:01 PM
"It IS a KFS PU sniper, but it's got the wrong scope on it, and it's had finish work done. It's not as it would have come from Keng's. "
What is the proper scope for one of these? Can you clarify "finish work done to it".
Or is it easier to explain how it would have originally come for Keng's.
Thanks for any clarification.
This is just my opinion, so take it for what you feel it's worth.
All of the KFS PU Snipers I have ever seen, were cobbled together rifles made from mismatched parts. Rarely do you see a matching serial anywhere on the gun. Rarely does the hand guard wood and stock wood even match in color. I have never seen a "new" part or any attempt to refurbish anything on one. They slapped together good known parts and made a complete rifle.
They came two ways....with the stock bayo, and without the stock bayo. The guns with no bayo have the lug shaved off. The majority of the PU Snipers were made from arsenal 974 receivers.
Now, the gun in the auction.... the bolt is blued. The action looks like it's been reblued. It's a 3 mil gun (1958), yet it has perfect like new bluing and no scratches whatsoever on it. The stock and hand guard are replacements. The only serialed part I can see is the receiver cover, and it doesn't match. Normally that's not an issue, but if this gun was in such perfect shape everywhere else, why would the cover need replacing? It's a blade bayo gun, but has a spike on it.
The scope is no big deal. There really wasn't a specific scope that's "right" because they would put any scope you wanted on it. But it looks like a modern scope, not something from that time period. Something like a 4x20 red star or polytech would be more period correct.
It's a gorgeous gun, and of course there is always a chance that's how it came, but in this particular case, to ME, it raises way too many questions why it's so perfect compared all the other ones.
Thank you for the info. I ended up buying that gun because I have another one almost identical and haven't seen too many. As you mention non-matching numbers and that one does have the blade ferrule with a spike bayo and stock. The other has the spike ferrule and is also non- number matching. It had no scope when I received it. I planned on putting a period correct scope on both of them and keeping them in the collection for references. It is hard to make out the arsenal stamps but it looks like a triangle 26 on one and the other looks like 3 letters, both have been ground down, one long and one short lug barrel. both have KFS stamped barrels, that's all that match between the two really.
Anyway both are cool to me. thank you again for the info.
Quote from: PSKS on January 30, 2017, 07:40:43 PM
Thank you for the info. I ended up buying that gun because I have another one almost identical and haven't seen too many. As you mention non-matching numbers and that one does have the blade ferrule with a spike bayo and stock. The other has the spike ferrule and is also non- number matching. It had no scope when I received it. I planned on putting a period correct scope on both of them and keeping them in the collection for references. It is hard to make out the arsenal stamps but it looks like a triangle 26 on one and the other looks like 3 letters, both have been ground down, one long and one short lug barrel. both have KFS stamped barrels, that's all that match between the two really.
Anyway both are cool to me. thank you again for the info.
The one in the auction that you just bought is a 3 mil serial gun (1958). So yeah, it will have a /26\ on it. Can't say on your other one without seeing.
If you want a period correct scope, try to find a Chinese 4x20 like a Red Star or Polytech. They look like this:
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r119/PowerSurgePerf/20150622_170956_zpsxtlpphis.jpg)